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east_beast said:
In recent years I have honestly started considering the reality that I might one day be an expatriate. Never imagined I'd ever consider moving out of the U.S. but the past 5-6 years or so has me reconsidering that to the point that I honestly think it's more likely than not.
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Same here.

bigun said:
At one time I was looking at Belize, but mom was still alive. Today I read where it has been fully invaded and no longer the place to move
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Have considered and visited. Not heard about the invasion.

Coyote said:
Argentina
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Yep!

To you guys wondering what should be done or how. I think a list should be made of the people that should be targeted that would make the most difference. Could be like a top ten most wanted. If some got takin out, add new ones on. The list would be on the net for all to see. Not sure who would top the list. If you really wanted to make a difference, it wouldn’t be potato head. Probably someone like Suros or Fouchi.
 
rockmup said:
Uh you need to go back further than that. Trump said lots of things that got him elected and then failed at 90% of them or just failed to do them.
He said he was going to drain the swamp, he didn't even come close. D's and R's, two sides of the very same coin.
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He managed to fulfill more promises than most politicians. Are you one of those "he aint perfect, so 100% crap" despite every other option is worse? Cause those people look like complete jackasses and everyone knows it.
 
Roc Doc said:
I get it, these scumbags all do it, cooking the books, look at what Enron did manipulating energy prices on the backs of the consumers, or what various drug companies have recklessly done over the years, etc..
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At the same time, consider that these companies can't pull it off without the assistance and support of regular people.
For example, look how many people advocated for vaxxed people to get a hospital bed over unvaxxed...
 
clodhopper said:
He managed to fulfill more promises than most politicians. Are you one of those "he aint perfect, so 100% crap" despite every other option is worse? Cause those people look like complete jackasses and everyone knows it.
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Don't be upset, you're daddy probably won't do any time
 
D_JEEPER said:
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From the party that supports, kneels for, and releases felons off the hook on a daily basis?
Might backfire a bit since many libs love them some criminals so now a vote for him is "edgy".
 
WaterH said:
To you guys wondering what should be done or how. I think a list should be made of the people that should be targeted that would make the most difference. Could be like a top ten most wanted. If some got takin out, add new ones on. The list would be on the net for all to see. Not sure who would top the list. If you really wanted to make a difference, it wouldn’t be potato head. Probably someone like Suros or Fouchi.
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That's the exact plot of Unintended Consequences. Along with a deep history of the gun culture in the US.

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SanDiegoCJ said:
Just as it's set up by COTUS.
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I agree that that is the case. I live in a small village in a small state. And anyone who had ever had to balance their own family budget, would not vote the way they do. If I was homeless, needed drugs, and was generally a poor member of society.... I would be thriving here.
 
[486] said:
that's bad logic
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Yeah, yeah it is.

But in this fucked up fallen world we are in, sometimes it makes more sense to recognize perfection, how far we are removed from perfection, and at least taking a step back away from what leading you away from that perfection.

Consider it less of a vote for Trump and more of a vote against blatant tyrannical political persecution.

I don't blame you at all for disagreeing with me, I. Still wrapping my mind around how far we have fallen. Sometimes the reality of clown world comes into stark focus and it pisses you the fuck off. :mad3:
 
MuntCuffin said:
Yeah, yeah it is.

But in this fucked up fallen world we are in, sometimes it makes more sense to recognize perfection, how far we are removed from perfection, and at least taking a step back away from what leading you away from that perfection.

Consider it less of a vote for Trump and more of a vote against blatant tyrannical political persecution.

I don't blame you at all for disagreeing with me, I. Still wrapping my mind around how far we have fallen. Sometimes the reality of clown world comes into stark focus and it pisses you the fuck off. :mad3:
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is he really opposition, or is he the actor hired to provide popular consent to further state growth?
 
I haven't researched it at all, but for those entertaining leaving the US, I have heard nothing but good things about Japan, other than it being expensive. Not sure you can own a gun, though.
 
[486] said:
is he really opposition, or is he the actor hired to provide popular consent to further state growth?
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He is someone who never expected to be president. And he has fucked alot of working men by filing bankruptcy within the laws that exist. My opinions, that said , it's been interesting to watch
 
Grnjp92 said:
He is someone who never expected to be president. And he has fucked alot of working men by filing bankruptcy within the laws that exist. My opinions, that said , it's been interesting to watch
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Many people here were telling a certain f450 owner to file bankruptcy…. So why might it be okay for dually owners and not orange folk?
 
If anyone was curious of which misdemeanors turned felony he was charged with....

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rockmup said:
Don't be upset, you're daddy probably won't do any time
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Ha! Nice try trolling.

He aint my daddy, but I also refuse to think idealistic soapbox ramblings justify being stupid which results in simply aiding a far lefty gain power, then bitchin about how the country is going down teh toilet.

Trump is a clown and nearly everyone here agrees with that. STILL a better choice than Hitlery, Biden, etc. Yet for whatever reason, people still "cant vote for him" "doesnt align with my expectations" which is all total crap. There has never been a perfect candidate or one that properly aligns with your expectations.... ever.

You dont go to war with the army you want. You go to war with the army you have. For the time being, we got the Don.
 
rockota said:
Many people here were telling a certain f450 owner to file bankruptcy…. So why might it be okay for dually owners and not orange folk?
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As I said within the law. I will say the scale of economic was much higher.
 
rockota said:
Many people here were telling a certain f450 owner to file bankruptcy…. So why might it be okay for dually owners and not orange folk?
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it's okay to walk out of home depot with shit, so long as you pay a lawyer a few bucks and sign a piece of paper

oh wait
 
plym49.2 said:
Hey Bonanza, please outline the expected and/or worst-case scenarios given that sentencing is a couple-few days before the convention.

Could he immediately be placed into custody?
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I usually request defendants be remanded immediately after a conviction. Bail is only intended to secure someone's presence for the trial, so at that point the spirit of the bond is gone. Sometimes it works, oftentimes it doesn't. Here, I doubt one of the most famous/infamous men on the planet couldn't hide, so the judge let him free pending sentencing.

Sentencing isn't throwing darts at the wall, but it is in some respect. The probation department is tasked with writing a report that uses various factors to determine a sentence. Do you show remorse? What is your previous criminal history? Have you taken any steps that would demonstrate rehabilitation? etc. etc. Aggravating and mitigating factors are then used to determine a sentence. "Sentence" is often strange too. For instance, take the 25-life you commonly hear. In CA, that's a determinate and indeterminate sentence. So you do the 25 years first, then the life sentence. But neither are what they say. 25 years is automatically half time. From them, the jails can add credits, and you can serve that in as little as 30% time. The "life" sentence doesn't mean "until your life ends" either. It simple means you serve until you are eligible for parole. The first eligibility hearing is usually after 7 years. So being convicted of 25 to life, you could get out in 17 years or so.

The prosecution can suggest its own sentence, as will the defense. The Judge can pick between them all, or make his own. I've had judges sentence more than my recommendation, as well as much less.

Here, Trump will only go to jail if he wants to go to jail. Meaning, his conduct from now until then will determine what sort of sentence awaits him. He will likely continue to deny any wrongdoing, which will not bode well for him. But even then, he could be sentenced to jail (Prison is usually for sentences above 1 yr), and that could be served on house arrest, community service, or even be suspended. Suspended means its like he gets nothing, but will be jailed if he violates probation.

I don't think, for a moment, that Trump will see the inside of a jail cell unless that's precisely what Trump wants.

However this is ends, Trump wins. I say that as someone who isn't a big Trump fan. (No, I don't care for Biden either).

Oh Nikki. What could have been. :grinpimp:

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Grnjp92 said:
As I said within the law. I will say the scale of economic was much higher.
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Within the law, to your point…

IMHO, bankruptcy laws may have gotten to lenient…
 
To the people saying they’d leave the country, what was your reaction to the celebs that said they would leave if Trump was voted in?
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
You fuckers will just hand them over. I'm not wrong either.....
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I wouldn't be so sure. There's a lot of people starting to feel like their back is against a wall. More every day.
When folk can't make ends meet, go along to get along goes out the window.
My kids are grown and I live alone. It would be a very bad day for anyone to think I'm handing over anything. I know I'm not alone.

D_JEEPER said:
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Alex Soeros needs to be thrown in a wood chipper feet first.
 
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