Tractors 30+ HP range

I have a kioti and it isn't so bad. Hasn't broke yet. Parts are a bitch I'm sure because not much dealer network, but my local parts place has filters that work. Hydraulics are a bit weaker than a kaboatanchor, so there's that.
 
This ^^ but keep in mind that HST isn't available on "utility (50-75 hp)" sized tractors. You can get HST on tractors up to and over 50hp, but not much. The tractors closer to the 50hp range are the largest models in the compact category. They will be smaller and lighter than the utility models. Also, these tractors are going to be more expensive than the utility models. ie...the 4052M is the largest compact tractor JD has that is HST. Its also $10k higher than the next size up, the 5055E utility tractor. Same hp, same lift but the 5055 is heavier and is power shuttle shift. The other brands that offer HST are generally the same in this aspect.

You can get a kubota mx6000, with Hst. It is a 60hp
 
You can get a kubota mx6000, with Hst. It is a 60hp

Yes sir, you are correct. I did note that you could get HST on tractors over 50hp but not much. What I meant by that is you cant get the same tractor capabilities between a defined "compact" tractor and a defined "utility" tractor in HST once you get past the 50hp mark.

The MX6000 is rated at like 63hp gross and 50'ish hp net and 51 at the pto. The MX series is the, in my estimation from reading the specs, the light duty version of the M series. It is more comparable to the L grand series of the compact tractors and specifically the M566SU in the utility tractors. The lift capacity, the size and weight is nearly the same. The M6060 or M7070 is really the base model for utility tractors for folks looking for 1 full step above a compact tractor. Like my comments regarding the 4052M JD. The bigger heavier tractors with the same hp and lift ratings will do more as they will be more stable when picking/carrying the same loads. They will move dirt, dig, grade, plow and till more efficiently as they are heavier and not tend to bounce off the ground. I'm not a transmission expert by any stretch of the imagination, but it is my understanding that HST isn't available on the bigger and heavier tractors in the same HP range because it will not survive moving that machine around while performing this work. I'm not a hydraulics expert either, but having HST limits the amount of hydraulic remotes you can have on the machine as well.

I guess you could say the MX6000, the L60 Grand and the M566SU are the hybrid models between what you would need in a compact tractor for yard/property clean up use and utility tractors for small/medium farm use that offer HST. In my personal opinion, these models are for niche uses for those that do know what they need and its very specific. Or..they are designed and manufactured to capitalize on those that don't know what all they want to do with their tractor or how to size a machine for their needs. They could pick any of those 3 tractors and use it to get a better understanding. Kind of an expensive lesson to learn but you can't really fault the manufacturers from capitalizing on the "homestead" wave and selling products.
 
Looks like a decent deal with super low hours

I believe the "E" versions are "Economy" and the FEL doesn't really come off and there are a few other corners cut. You want an easy to remove self parking FEL if you're going to be doing anything else with the front like snowblower, dozer blade, or broom.

I'm a green paint snob because parts are available and easy to lookup online, lots out there so any issues are well documented, machine specific implements/attachments can be found used reasonably easily. They cost a little more up front than tym/mahindra/kioti/cabellas/etc. off brand stuff but there is a reason and the resale makes up for it. I have no idea on newer stuff but my 2001 jd4300 is made in the US aside from the yanmar engine. The transmission was made very local to me in coffeyville, KS about 15 miles from where I grew up.

HST on a compact is a 100% requirement for my needs.
 
This ^^ but keep in mind that HST isn't available on "utility (50-75 hp)" sized tractors. You can get HST on tractors up to and over 50hp, but not much. The tractors closer to the 50hp range are the largest models in the compact category. They will be smaller and lighter than the utility models. Also, these tractors are going to be more expensive than the utility models. ie...the 4052M is the largest compact tractor JD has that is HST. Its also $10k higher than the next size up, the 5055E utility tractor. Same hp, same lift but the 5055 is heavier and is power shuttle shift. The other brands that offer HST are generally the same in this aspect.

You can get a 4066R/M with HST.
There is a huge difference between the 5065E and 4066R, not just that the 5055E is larger, it has way less options, no creature comforts, and is made in India. I looked at them really hard, but you can only add 2 sets of remote hydraulics to it, the turning radius is almost 3' larger, and the loader does not come off. You also have to buy a loader for the E separately, and when you get them apples to apples to a R minus the transmission they are a toss up money wise $43,692 for the 5055E with loader, and $42,654 for the 4052R with loader and HST.

The E series is an economy, or basic level machine, the R series are the loaded with features machines.

I ended up with a 4052R with 3 sets of hydraulic SCV's on on the front for the grapple, and two on the rear for a top and tilt kit. I believe you can add up to 6 sets of SCV's to an R tractor. The R tractors also have a better seat, tilt steering wheel, which both were critical for my 5'1" wife. It is also harder and more expensive to add a backhoe to an E than it is to an R. Ours gets used in the woods in Maine, and I can weave it in and around the trees easily, lug a couple 30" by 8.5' logs, and drag 2-24"-30" by 8.5' logs behind it. It is small and nimble enough for what I needed, if we had 20-30 acres of fields to hay, than I would have bought a 5075M all day long.
 
For that money you can buy and old simple mechanical tractor, fix/rebuild a heck of a lot and still be money ahead. No personal experience with the various models mentioned above, but emissions systems and fancy electronics seem like something that's not a matter of if but when for breaking and being impossible to fix. Likewise good luck finding parts/info for that thing in 20 years.....
 
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The main criterion for choosing a tractor is determined based on the tasks it must perform: will it work on a small suburban area or a large farm. If you have your plot on which it is necessary to carry out plowing, cultivation, watering, sowing of grain crops, hay harvesting, etc., then, in this case, it will be more effective to opt for an inexpensive, maneuverable, sufficiently powerful and reliable tractor that could easily perform the above work and save your money.
 
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I have a 2001 New Holland 2120 4x4 with front end loader I will sell. Runs great, could use some tlc, not the prettiest but it works and could be cleaned up to look a lot nicer. I don't have up for sale, I plan on cleaning it up and taking care of the tlc this fall then selling it. 1889 hours $9500
Where are you located and can you send me some pictures?
 
The main criterion for choosing a tractor is determined based on the tasks it must perform: will it work on a small suburban area or a large farm
Are you here to sell tractors?????
Cause it seems like you came here to sell tractors!!!!!!!!
 
What about HST is bad mowing or lifting stuff?



Agreed, (about bigger than you need)
I have a Kubota L3830 HST with loader. Has been a great tractor. HST does rob power, you just need to learn to modulate your travel speed to what you're doing and the conditions. People are always impressed with what it can do for a "compact" tractor.
 
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