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They are thin and they bend fairly easy.
Just curious, why do you need to know the exact thickness?
Just curious, why do you need to know the exact thickness?
2big bronco
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This may sound crazy but I have a geo that I want to make four wheel steering. I have a front axle from a cj3a. I think I can mate the closed knuckle portion of the cj3a to the geo axle tubes. I'm just trying to get all the info I can to plan ahead the project and what I may need potentially in the way of steel tube for coupling the tubes and axle shafts. For what I intend to use the geo for I need a tight tuning radius. The vehicle will never see high speeds or the highway, no rock climbing.
2big bronco
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Whats your intended purpose? Just curious as my imediate reaction is the first 30 $100 front axles you could find would be a better option.
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Gonna use the geo to pull a grass mower. BIG yard but some tight spots. Need air conditioning as I get up in years but still like to tinker too. Thanks guys!
Byro
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Are you planning to have shafts made? Or just run it in 4wd for a FWD? You could damn near swap the D30 right into the rear. The driveshaft would probably run at the angle if you aren’t beating on it and not cycling the suspension.
YotaAtieToo
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Was going to say the same thing. Low speeds will be no big deal.
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Yeah you're probable right. Remove rear drive shaft and engage front only for 2WD . But what's the fun in that? Lol! So gonna have to splice axle shafts too. Gonna have a machinist turn down a portion of the shafts to .75" making sure everything is concentric and couple the shafts with 1.25, .25 wall DOM tube. Wish me luck. Ha ha. Any input is much appreciated.
I know nothing about old CJ stuff, but wouldn't a closed knuckle steer less than an open knuckle? Do you want it to be narrower than the body?
1. You will need to relocate the lower links If you want to put the wheel and tire in the fender and keep it narrow. If you want to leave it outside, it would be easier and you wouldn't have to mess with the suspension much.
2. Attaching any other axle to a Suzuki axle. I'd at least do a full back truss, Its some place to mount a steering ram too. The Suzuki Housing can be hammered onto the other axle. Then truss.
3. I'm curious what you plan on steering this with.
Option A.
I would sell the CJ axle. Get a samurai front axle and make your love child out of that. Keeps the Same gear ratio, Stock sidekick rear is 26 spline and You can get 26 spline samurai axles. Similar stamped steel, Same metric brake fittings and stock driveshaft.
Option B.
Stab the CJ3 axle in the back. Leave springs and all and regear. Bonus points for Stance.
Please send us pictures of this monstrosity.
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I may be totally way off here but the problem with using a complete front axle, samurai or Cj is when it's installed with the differential pointing toward the front of the vehicle with rear drive shaft connected the wheels turn in the wrong direction. I think it depends on the direction of rotation of front and rear drive shafts as viewed from the same end of the vehicle. If both drive shafts turn the same direction as viewed from the same end of the vehicle that's an issue if they turn opposite then a front axle would work when flipped to be used in the rear. IF, big if, my logic is correct. The rotation of drive shafts is something I've not investigated thourly yet, I'll admit. I got this Cj axle cheap locally. I don't want to invest a lot of money uif this turns out to be a total flop. As far as steering think system of cables, pulleys and turnbuckle. Yeah I know sounds scary but keep in mind if something fails at the speed I'll be going I can stop in 1 to 2 feet. Well maybe not quit that quick but nobody's going to die! LOL. I'd love some kind of ram system but that's after other issues are ironed out. Oh and the rear doesn't have to turn to the same degree as the front to reduce the turning radius. Some years ago GM put out a truck with 4 wheel steer and the rear turned less than the front if memory serves.I know nothing about old CJ stuff, but wouldn't a closed knuckle steer less than an open knuckle? Do you want it to be narrower than the body?
1. You will need to relocate the lower links If you want to put the wheel and tire in the fender and keep it narrow. If you want to leave it outside, it would be easier and you wouldn't have to mess with the suspension much.
2. Attaching any other axle to a Suzuki axle. I'd at least do a full back truss, Its some place to mount a steering ram too. The Suzuki Housing can be hammered onto the other axle. Then truss.
3. I'm curious what you plan on steering this with.
Option A.
I would sell the CJ axle. Get a samurai front axle and make your love child out of that. Keeps the Same gear ratio, Stock sidekick rear is 26 spline and You can get 26 spline samurai axles. Similar stamped steel, Same metric brake fittings and stock driveshaft.
Option B.
Stab the CJ3 axle in the back. Leave springs and all and regear. Bonus points for Stance.
Please send us pictures of this monstrosity.
YotaAtieToo
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It will turn the same direction. Only if you flip the axle over so it's upside down will it spin backwards.
lots of vehicles use the same diffs front and rear.
lots of vehicles use the same diffs front and rear.
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Doing a little reading this morning looks like both front and rear drive shafts turn the same way when viewed from the same direction. CW from the front. My experience is most if not all drive shafts 2wd or 4 turn CW viewed from the front. Which goes along with what you're saying YotaArtieToo. Thanks!