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Tourist submarine exploring Titanic wreckage disappears in Atlantic Ocean

Roc Doc said:
If you watch the video ExWrench posted, it could have been buckling of the CF structure. Without some forensic analysis it's all just speculation.

Is this incident under Canadian overwatch or US CC?
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Ive watched a few of them, the guy who came up with a logical timeline based on coms was the most informative. It descended too fast then payed the price. The engagement of that ring imo is way too little.
 
bunk said:
Ive watched a few of them, the guy who came up with a logical timeline based on coms was the most informative. It descended too fast then payed the price. The engagement of that ring imo is way too little.
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The big takeaway from the video is that CF is strong in tension, but not as good in compression so it could have failed in the middle OR at the Ti / CF junction.
 
If this picture is actually their shit, why would they leave a spare tube sitting out in the sun unprotected?

The ROV would have come in handy.

"We're having trouble with the sub"
"Ok, I'm dragging your dumb ass back to the surface"


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gt1guy said:
If this picture is actually their shit, why would they leave a spare tube sitting out in the sun unprotected?

The ROV would have come in handy.

"We're having trouble with the sub"
"Ok, I'm dragging your dumb ass back to the surface"


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The ROV was probably scavenged for thrusters, drives etc...
Looking at that tube it does sort of look like that was the actual inside of the tube that those ram mounts were screwed in to.:stirthepot:
 
CarterKraft said:
The ROV was probably scavenged for thrusters, drives etc...
Looking at that tube it does sort of look like that was the actual inside of the tube that those ram mounts were screwed in to.:stirthepot:
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If so, no thimble? What's with the rows of nutserts?
 
plym49.2 said:
If so, no thimble? What's with the rows of nutserts?
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If I had to guess, it would be either:
1. That is the version 1 tube which they replaced because it had signs of failing, they probably cut the thimbles off and reused the titanium rings on the new tube
2. That was a prototype tube or a tube that didn't lay up right and did not get used, it looks like there is a significant void right about halfway through the wall thickness on the end we can see...

On the nutserts, I would guess that the black piece is a insert so that they could have something to attach things to that was not the hull (perhaps that's what the floor everybody sat on was attached to?).

Aaron Z
 
aczlan said:
If I had to guess, it would be either:
1. That is the version 1 tube which they replaced because it had signs of failing, they probably cut the thimbles off and reused the titanium rings on the new tube
2. That was a prototype tube or a tube that didn't lay up right and did not get used, it looks like there is a significant void right about halfway through the wall thickness on the end we can see...

On the nutserts, I would guess that the black piece is a insert so that they could have something to attach things to that was not the hull (perhaps that's what the floor everybody sat on was attached to?).

Aaron Z
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Someone here should buy that at auction. Wine cellar/humidor/bunker storage/cistern/whatever.
 
Was it in this thread or on Twitter that their ex-CFO said they were paying teenage/early-20s 'engineers' $15/hr?
 
plym49.2 said:
Was it in this thread or on Twitter that their ex-CFO said they were paying teenage/early-20s 'engineers' $15/hr?
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I can see that for the "rockstars" who don't know better than to work 80hr weeks because "my boss asked so clearly it's a reasonable expectation"

Remember, these are diversity hires, lots of them are first in their family to go to college, don't know what white collar shit should pay, don't have anyone they can ask and are living more comfortably than anyone else they know. It's really easy to lowball them right out of college since they don't know their worth.
 
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Kurtuleas said:
This article says that the sub lost electronics and power, so it lawn darted nose down into the abyss...

So the people in it were all tossed together towards the window in complete blackness when the sub nosed down.... and it took about 45 seconds to a minute while they screamed in terror before it popped and killed them from descending too quickly.

Had to be even worse if someone took a shit in that toilet.

Thats some horrifying shit.

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This is complete and utter bull shit from someone who clearly doesn't understand even the basics of hydrodynamics, physics or engineering.

-8600 ft is ~65% of rated depth or ~40% of rated collapse depth (assuming 1.5 factor of safety & 12,500 ft rated depth) Failure at this low of stress level is difficult to explain
-what 'rapidly changing' pressure? Decent at 60 mph is 88 ft/sec or a pressure change of 38 psi/second. Do this really seem likely to matter for a vessel designed for 8000 psi? And that's an absurdly fast speed of decent that is probably not possible short of filling the sub with lead. You would need to essentially teleport the sub to the bottom for rate of pressure change to matter much
-Pretty much impossible for it to point straight down. Stability doesn't work that way. Again, would need to move absurd amounts of weight.
-Good design practice is fail safe ballast release, i.e. loss of power drops ballast. Even with the ineptitude of the company is seems unlikely they would have been so stupid as to not do that. Even if they did, loss of power wouldn't cause a change in decent rate.
 
arse_sidewards said:
I can see that for the "rockstars" who don't know better than to work 80hr weeks because "my boss asked so clearly it's a reasonable expectation"

Remember, these are diversity hires, lots of them are first in their family to go to college, don't know what white collar shit should pay, don't have anyone they can ask and are living more comfortably than anyone else they know. It's really easy to lowball them right out of college since they don't know their worth.
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Much truth, but if you are hiring them as your lead submersible designers and software developers, well, they don't have much worth. Go back to the LinkedIn links for some of them - they were all puffing out their chests that they was 'zubmareeners'.
 
You asshole shit on the last vid i posted in here and a gaurantee youll hate this adhd youtuber, but........ some behind the scenes stuff you may not have seen yet.

 
arse_sidewards said:
I can see that for the "rockstars" who don't know better than to work 80hr weeks because "my boss asked so clearly it's a reasonable expectation"

Remember, these are diversity hires, lots of them are first in their family to go to college, don't know what white collar shit should pay, don't have anyone they can ask and are living more comfortably than anyone else they know. It's really easy to lowball them right out of college since they don't know their worth.
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Shots fired Ravenbar :flipoff2:
 
total newb said:
You asshole shit on the last vid i posted in here and a gaurantee youll hate this adhd youtuber, but........ some behind the scenes stuff you may not have seen yet.

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Fuck that attention whore. Previously had seen a few minutes of it - it's just his vlog of his awesome life.
 
plym49.2 said:
Fuck that attention whore. Previously had seen a few minutes of it - it's just his vlog of his awesome life.
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Yes hes annoying as fuck, thats why i quit watching his regular vids.

Theres 2 relivant bits in the vid. 1 where stockton rush is talking in the bay to the group and when they attempt the dive, didnt make it far and " lost comunications"
 
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