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Squamch

Squamch

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Looking to buy tools to swap tires on our bikes. 18, 19, and 21" dirtbike tires, 12" quad tires, 10" 50cc dirtbike tires.

What spoons, and other tools, do I want to buy for this task?

Specific links to products would be tits.

Thanks
 
Motion Pro stuff is nice. I like the bent spoons, bead buddy the little cable to pull the valve stem through.

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I suck at tires though and will probably spend the money on this.

Or at least a stand
 
The bent spoons listed above are great.

One trick to keep from pinching tubes, is after you stuff the tube in the tire, put a little air in the tube. Just enough so it becomes round.
 
TMFabrication said:
Motion Pro stuff is nice. I like the bent spoons, bead buddy the little cable to pull the valve stem through.

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I suck at tires though and will probably spend the money on this.

Or at least a stand
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Check on advbike I think someone sells those
 
I use 4 Tusk mega spoons and a stand to get off the floor/save my back. I run mousses so can just go nuts with the spoons without risk of damaging a tube. Occasionally I need to use a bead buddy.

The little wire thing was quite useful when I dealt with tubes. Lubing them up also helps to keep from pinching them.


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TMFabrication said:
Motion Pro stuff is nice. I like the bent spoons, bead buddy the little cable to pull the valve stem through.

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I suck at tires though and will probably spend the money on this.

Or at least a stand
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Bead buddy is awesome
 
everything suggested works

I use the HF automotive ones when I am at home in my shop

I have since switched to tubliss, little different install, but its the same in the long run
 
The valve stem snake is by far the best tool in the arsenal.

Ditch the rubber rim strip and use 4 wraps of masking tape.

As said before, little bit of air in the tube, I like to put air in before packing it in. I also like to use dish soap as a lube.

After go around with the spoon and make sure the tube isn’t under the bead, usually happens right at the valve stem.
 
I carry MotionPro stuff. Three spoons, bead breaker, bead buddy, and the stem snake. Small compressor and a bottle of soap as well. I carry it right on the DR with me.
 
woods said:
I carry MotionPro stuff. Three spoons, bead breaker, bead buddy, and the stem snake. Small compressor and a bottle of soap as well. I carry it right on the DR with me.
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I switched to tubliss
get a flat, ram a plug in there and a couple pounds of air. I'm never going back

Pulled a nail out of my tire as my riding buddy went into the hardware store to get a bolt, I was done before he got back out
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
I switched to tubliss
get a flat, ram a plug in there and a couple pounds of air. I'm never going back

Pulled a nail out of my tire as my riding buddy went into the hardware store to get a bolt, I was done before he got back out
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I'vew seen that using that 3M tape. Its on the list of things I may convert to one day. I carry front and rear tubes on me at all times too.
 
Deadly. Thanks! A buddy came by and showed me all his tricks for it, with his set of spoons. He made it look easy then said "ok, now you try."
Not easy but doable. He had 2 16" spoons and 2 little 10" ones.
Gots_a_sol said:
I use 4 Tusk mega spoons and a stand to get off the floor/save my back. I run mousses so can just go nuts with the spoons without risk of damaging a tube. Occasionally I need to use a bead buddy.

The little wire thing was quite useful when I dealt with tubes. Lubing them up also helps to keep from pinching them.


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Called a local shop to ask about mousses and they had no idea what I was talking about, kept insisting I meant a tubeless conversion. I'd like to go with a mousse for peace of mind, but that can wait til the next tire swap I think.
 
Squamch said:
Called a local shop to ask about mousses and they had no idea what I was talking about, kept insisting I meant a tubeless conversion. I'd like to go with a mousse for peace of mind, but that can wait til the next tire swap I think.
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I use a rabaconda 5 pc tire iron set but I really only use 1-3 at a time for normal tire changes. I also bought the cheaper Tusk spoon recently.

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I'm not super stoked on the surface finish of the spoon, it works really nice but kind of grinds paint off my rims if I'm not careful because it's kind of rough.

On the subject of mousse bibs, They are a complete bitch and a half to install. Nobody likes the price of Rabacondas but they make that process a LOT easier. If you succeed at installing your first mousse with just tire irons and no stand, I will mail you a fucking cookie.

EDIT: It is also important to consider that mousses need some routine maintenance and other storage techniques as well. They want to be re-lubed every so often, probably monthly or bi-monthly, that part will depend entirely on consistency and intensity of use. In the desert, I can cook a bib in a single tire if I'm not careful. I've also seen them chafe into the bead of a tire and cause the tire to flop off of the rim after the bead cord breaks.
Storage is also important. With some exception, try to never store a bib tire resting on the ground long term. They need to be elevated, or else they'll flat-spot like crazy. Just a lot of nuance to them you should be aware of, they're certainly not a be all end all upgrade for the cost.
 
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Good to know! I'm not sure that the terrain you and I ride could be more different, likewise the speeds we ride it at. I'll start quizzing more experienced guys about what they're running and see what the concensus is. If you have hipstergram check out islandsingletrack to see what our local trails look like.
 
Squamch said:
Good to know! I'm not sure that the terrain you and I ride could be more different, likewise the speeds we ride it at. I'll start quizzing more experienced guys about what they're running and see what the concensus is. If you have hipstergram check out islandsingletrack to see what our local trails look like.
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Ditto to the terrain and speed difference! There is no doubt in my mind that you won't have to care for yours nearly as diligently as I would, but I figure that's information that a guy would want before spending $150 on a mousse only to have it fail prematurely because no one told him they required occasional maintenance.
 
I had to change several dirt bike tires last year, from 12"-21". I bought a pair of these spoons, and was more than happy with them. Bikemaster 8" Tire Iron set Use a little dish soap it you have some handy, if you're in a bind then a little water is better than nothing. I like those spoons because they're short & light, and I can fit them in my pack if I want. The other tools are handy, but you can get by with a pair of spoons. The smaller rims on the kids bikes are a much bigger PITA than the big ones on adult bikes. A round bucket is handy to set the wheel on, too.

Pete
 
TMFabrication said:
Motion Pro stuff is nice. I like the bent spoons, bead buddy the little cable to pull the valve stem through.

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I suck at tires though and will probably spend the money on this.

Or at least a stand
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I have all of these products in my toolbox and came to recommend the same. I also have a small collection of levers from Harbor freight and cycle gear, but on those you'll need to take some time to prep them and file off all the sharp edges.

If you have the budget, get all Motion Pro and be happy the first time.
 
Squamch said:
Called a local shop to ask about mousses and they had no idea what I was talking about, kept insisting I meant a tubeless conversion. I'd like to go with a mousse for peace of mind, but that can wait til the next tire swap I think.
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I think I would get a different shop, you are not asking about any new technology here :grinpimp:
 
Anyone doing the zip tie methond? I will never do another bike tire with out some tire shine and zip ties. No, I am not kidding. I have changed ~5 of tires on harleys, victorys, supermoto and dirt bikes.



I went and ordred some ez-release zip ties. I have used the same few on the last three sets.
 
Squamch said:
Good to know! I'm not sure that the terrain you and I ride could be more different, likewise the speeds we ride it at. I'll start quizzing more experienced guys about what they're running and see what the concensus is. If you have hipstergram check out islandsingletrack to see what our local trails look like.
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That terrain is a trials tire Mecca. Heavy tube and a trials tire at 5psi will be like cheating.

I raced a trials tire a few times, they hook on everything! Issue I had was heating them up and pulling valve stems out of the tube. At a trail riding pace though it would be no issue, I only ripped out two for a whole season but it was enough for me to not race on one anymore.
 
Order the motion pro stuff and HD tubes, you won’t have flats unless you ride in a ton of thorns.

Changing tires isn’t hard, if you’re fighting it your technique is wrong. Keep the side of the bead opposite from where you’re working as far down in the rim as possible.

The mousses aren’t a convenience thing, they are an insurance policy for racing.
 
It's more about technique than tools. This guy is part of Dunlop's team that does all their tire work at big MX/SX events, lots of good info in his videos.



I do all my tires (12-21" dirt tires and a few different sizes of ATV) with two of these spoons and a bead buddy. Dish soap and water in a spray bottle for lube. Don't forget some talcum powder/baby powder to keep the tube from balling up on itself inside the tire.

Some kind of bead breaker is real handy for ATV tires, I fabbed one up out of my scrap pile but my shit is all 30+ years old and most of the tires I remove have been on for 20+ years.
 
Wisconsinite said:
Anyone doing the zip tie methond? I will never do another bike tire with out some tire shine and zip ties. No, I am not kidding. I have changed ~5 of tires on harleys, victorys, supermoto and dirt bikes.



I went and ordred some ez-release zip ties. I have used the same few on the last three sets.
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never done it, cant see why I wouldn't try it :grinpimp:
 
Byro said:
That terrain is a trials tire Mecca. Heavy tube and a trials tire at 5psi will be like cheating.

I raced a trials tire a few times, they hook on everything! Issue I had was heating them up and pulling valve stems out of the tube. At a trail riding pace though it would be no issue, I only ripped out two for a whole season but it was enough for me to not race on one anymore.
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In the Pacific NorthWET I also had great results with a Goldentyre Trails Hybrid and heavy duty tubes. I ran that bitch at 8-ish-psi for normal trails and dumped it down lower for tech stuff. It's absolutely like cheating, it hooks up so well. But if you're a "wheelspin on everything" kinda rider or ride sharp rocks at speed you will shred the tire instantly.

Horses for courses and all that.
 
Yotota said:
In the Pacific NorthWET I also had great results with a Goldentyre Trails Hybrid and heavy duty tubes. I ran that bitch at 8-ish-psi for normal trails and dumped it down lower for tech stuff. It's absolutely like cheating, it hooks up so well. But if you're a "wheelspin on everything" kinda rider or ride sharp rocks at speed you will shred the tire instantly.

Horses for courses and all that.
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I'm on south Vancouver island, so that's exactly my world. Maybe I'll give that a shot after the cheater I just put on is done.
 
Yotota said:
In the Pacific NorthWET I also had great results with a Goldentyre Trails Hybrid and heavy duty tubes. I ran that bitch at 8-ish-psi for normal trails and dumped it down lower for tech stuff. It's absolutely like cheating, it hooks up so well. But if you're a "wheelspin on everything" kinda rider or ride sharp rocks at speed you will shred the tire instantly.

Horses for courses and all that.
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I see what you did there :grinpimp:
cleaver dad jokes
 
Byro said:
That terrain is a trials tire Mecca. Heavy tube and a trials tire at 5psi will be like cheating.

I raced a trials tire a few times, they hook on everything! Issue I had was heating them up and pulling valve stems out of the tube. At a trail riding pace though it would be no issue, I only ripped out two for a whole season but it was enough for me to not race on one anymore.
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I rip stems constantly. The Nuetech Tubeliss system treated me pretty well for fixing that issue on my previous bike, I just had to be more selective about tires, as some of the cheaper ones liked to leak out of the beads.

If i was riding in that gooey ass slop soil i'd definitely be running a trials/ hybrid tire and a tubleliss
 
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