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rockota said:
Brought my 37’s to discount and asked them to pop the inner bead. That all I wanted. I tried every home option, but they were on tight.

“We don’t do headlocks.”

The rings were already removed.

NTB wanted $40/wheel to pop the beads.

Ended up paying the local offroad shop a full hour of labor. Still way more than it should have been
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I used to do the "home options" for breaking the inner beads loose on my beadlocks, with varying degrees of success. But usually a struggle. Sometimes I'd pay the Big-O down the street to break them.

A couple years ago I bought one of these for $100, I was changing the rear tires on a sport quad and they were kicking my ass, I couldn't break the beads to save my life.
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I've used it several times now on my beadlocks and various ATV tires, it works great. It's small enough that it lives in my 5th wheel incase we need it on a camping trip.
 
pcorssmit said:
I used to do the "home options" for breaking the inner beads loose on my beadlocks, with varying degrees of success. But usually a struggle. Sometimes I'd pay the Big-O down the street to break them.

A couple years ago I bought one of these for $100, I was changing the rear tires on a sport quad and they were kicking my ass, I couldn't break the beads to save my life.
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I've used it several times now on my beadlocks and various ATV tires, it works great. It's small enough that it lives in my 5th wheel incase we need it on a camping trip.
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Those used to be real expensive. I guess the China competition drove down the price. :laughing:
 
arse_sidewards said:
Those used to be real expensive. I guess the China competition drove down the price. :laughing:
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IIRC, the yellow one is the China made version, and the red one is the US made version that is $10 more. I have the yellow one, since I needed it fast and that's what I could get quick.
 
Penetrode Offroad said:
Les Schwab quoted me 2300 for some 37" Goodyear Kevlars when Discount offered at 1700. Fuck Schwab for anything other than emergency or "convenience".
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I totally understand using a chain like that if a guy has a handful of rigs running around. But for a personal rig there are a lot better choices
 
300sniper said:
Need tires for my wife's Jeep Patriot. It has 205/70R16s, which is an oddball size I guess. The only name brand tires I could find for it in the past were Goodyear trash tires. I always prefer name brand so I stuck with them. Supposedly there are some Coopers that are better, and they probably are.

I started thinking about switching from 205/70R16 to 215/65R16 to open up the options. It got to the point where I was going to make an appointment to get tires in that size, and the guy comes back on the phone, uh, we can't sell smaller tires, only bigger.... The tires are so close in size it really surprised me.

Seriously? I think even Costco will go up or down one aspect ratio going off memory. Is this normal?

(Not a car guy anymore, just want quality tires)
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Just saw this, not reading the entire thread.

I have 4 warehouses to pull from, checked only one. there are 21 different tires available, with about half of them being in stock for immediate delivery. kenda, cooper, kumho, toyo, mastercraft, nexen, general, dunlop, falken.............all readily available in that size.

you need a better tire shop.
 
Ranchtruck said:
Some of the manufacturers (chrysler/jeep in particular) used a cheap steel lug nut with a stainless skin crimped over them. So the road salt rusts the nut and the rust jacking starts bulging out the stainless skin so a socket no longer fits. Hence "swollen nuts".

So then you pound the 19mm socket on and then when you get the nut off the stainless skin stays stuck in the socket so you use a punch to try and clear the socket and it pokes through the cap and you have to peel it out with dikes while swearing at the fucking cheap pricks that designed such shitty nuts to start with. Then repeat for the next 19 nuts on the shitbox.

Once the skins are gone a 18mm fits pretty good on the rusty nut.
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It's common on Ford Cars and small SUV's as well, most tire shops would try and sell the customer new lug nuts as the old ones are for sure to be damaged, but people would just feel it's someone trying to upsell them a product and go bitch about it.
Swollen nuts are real, call your high school girlfriend and tell her.
 
welndmn said:
It's common on Ford Cars and small SUV's as well, most tire shops would try and sell the customer new lug nuts as the old ones are for sure to be damaged, but people would just feel it's someone trying to upsell them a product and go bitch about it.
Swollen nuts are real, call your high school girlfriend and tell her.
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and on f150s
 
WTF? said:
I’ve wasted a bunch of time and money on beads in The past with terrible results. I did get a bubble balancer in the tire machine deal, but my wife’s uncle has a balancer if I don’t want to go pay the guy 4 min up the road $10 a wheel.
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Tire places here uses those shit beads. 3 of the trucks I've had would shake so bad on the steer it was almost like death wobble.

Would smooth out, then shake. And keep doing that. Super tiring on a long drive.
 
Man, all this hurts my heart. My tire guy says he's retiring in the spring.
Old school tire shop my family and I have been buying tires from for 35+ years. I usually carry wheels in, it's a lot easier than catching him with a rack open. Hell, if they're busy, I'll just mount and balance them myself and he knocks a couple bucks off the cash price.
I joke with people, the only reason I ever return to my hometown is to get my hair cut or buy tires.
 
Crashhawk said:
Old school tire shop my family and I have been buying tires from for 35+ years
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I posted above about Les Schwab. They would have charged me a fortune to mount a balance a set of tires outside of what they carry. Took em to a shop 2 miles away and they mounted and balanced some retreads for a decent price. Came back and said, "one of your wheels are bent so we did as good as we can." LS would have had me in cuffs because of public safety.
 
Gdogg said:
All these stories are the reason I bought my own tire machine and balancer. Now I can buy tires at the best price and put them on myself. I figured what I’ve saved over the years already paid for everything. Plus I know they are done right and not hacked up by some tire monkey.
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I got really lucky when a friend of mine scored an older tire machine and balancer. He didn’t have room so he gave them to me. I’ve done a couple of sets of tires for him and maybe a dozen more sets for myself and other friends.

Damn it feels good to be a gangster and screw the tire shops out of some business. :smokin:
Bunch of fucktard monkeys and owners/managers that won’t fix what they fuck up.
 
AKnate said:
That's a mini one for 4 wheeler tires.

The one for truck tires, USA made, that shops use is around $250
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It's rated for light truck tires, for HDTs they list the $250 one. My 15" Swampers were way easier to do than the 9" quad tires. At some point I need to swap one of the 245/75R16s on my trailer, I'll see how it goes but I'm guessing it'll work fine.
 
I started doing my own tire work when they started charging 12 to 15 bucks for mounting and balancing and flat repairs. Now that would be cheap. I have the big bubble balancer with a solid base and a foot pedal release. It does fine.
 
I picked up a set of these on ebay. They work great, but they're not gentle on pretty wheels.



There are also cheaper copies from Summit, Speedway, etc.
 
After sitting at a tire shop watching tire monkeys fuck my tires for a couple of hours I went and found some used machines. The only thing I wish was mine were fancy enough to do low profile stuff.
 
Crashhawk said:
Man, all this hurts my heart. My tire guy says he's retiring in the spring.
Old school tire shop my family and I have been buying tires from for 35+ years. I usually carry wheels in, it's a lot easier than catching him with a rack open. Hell, if they're busy, I'll just mount and balance them myself and he knocks a couple bucks off the cash price.
I joke with people, the only reason I ever return to my hometown is to get my hair cut or buy tires.
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Buy him out?

At least buy a tire machine and balancer. :grinpimp:
 
Sam's Club came through. I don't think I even signed a waiver for the different size. They were done with them before we were done shopping. $450 OTD for (4) 215-65R16 Goodyear Assurance All-Season with new valve stems, TPS troubleshoot, the roadside assistance, "lifetime" rotate/balance, 4 year road hazard.
 
if any of you diyers need machines, Im selling a pair. I bought them new right off the truck. just dont use them, rather put the money into something else. I have a commercial set of coats machines at my dealership. this is for a like new( 4 tires mounted) tire machine and a gently used balancer. both new at the same time.

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Last tires I needed to break the beads, I used my excavator.

Skid steer, tractor, backhoe, outrigger of boom truck
 
AKnate said:
Last tires I needed to break the beads, I used my excavator.

Skid steer, tractor, backhoe, outrigger of boom truck
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For some of the smaller stuff I drive my front pickup wheel over them sometimes. You can steer up and on at an angle to get just right.
 
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