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The run on toilet paper is here again.

animator said:
Well it's hard to tell these days. Some people here seem to be ok with people getting fucked by others gouging the things because muh profitses.

Fortunately in the hurricane situation, it looks like people unaffected are doing what they can to get things to the affected and giving little shit about their cost. Those people are doing it right.

But the people going out and buying up all the TP because of a dock strike are just fucking retarded and making life for everyone else unnecessarily difficult.
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I'm okay with people attempting to fuck over others due to their price gouging. Lots harder to wipe the shelves of Wal mart if Wal mart is allowed to double their price.

At the end of the day, we've all gotta die
 
IowaOffRoad said:
Then show me an example of your scenario happening, causing all the wimmens and chillens to die?

ETA: What you have been doing across these threads is classic strawman tactics. If you wanted to label it:flipoff2:
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Family who lost everything is forced to eat their cat, but has no TP to wipe their ass with when the cat makes its way back out. Infection sets in, death soon after.

Person hoarding all the hygiene items watches them die while lighting cigar with $100 bill the neighbor gave him for a box of wet wipes while thinking to himself, well at least I got my money.
 
Provience said:
I'm okay with people attempting to fuck over others due to their price gouging. Lots harder to wipe the shelves of Wal mart if Wal mart is allowed to double their price.

At the end of the day, we've all gotta die
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It's also a lot harder to wipe the shelves if wal mart starts limiting purchases per customer while keeping the price the same. Everyone pays the same price, and everyone has pretty equal access to the things. Also keeps the gougers from buying it all only to flip it for double in the damn parking lot.
 
Scenario on where hoarding and flipping for a profit is most likely to occur, both scenarios there is only so many pallets of product available:
1) prices kept at current amount or even lowered. Can be bought at a discount, hoarded then sold by private parties for a greater profit mark up on the secondary market. Shelves drained and empty until supplies can be replenished

Scenario 2
2) prices are immediately doubled when the shortage is immanent, hoarders are turned away because the $$$ doesn't make much sense to flip for a profit OR they can't afford it. People who need it NOW will pay for it. Gives time for supply chains to normalize and potentially minimizing empty shelf scenario for people who NEED it.

Which scenario is better for the consumer?
 
animator said:
It's also a lot harder to wipe the shelves if wal mart starts limiting purchases per customer while keeping the price the same. Everyone pays the same price, and everyone has pretty equal access to the things. Also keeps the gougers from buying it all only to flip it for double in the damn parking lot.
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How would that be managed in an overwhelmed store when someone could walk out, load up their car and walk right back in again and buy more?
 
animator said:
Family who lost everything is forced to eat their cat, but has no TP to wipe their ass with when the cat makes its way back out. Infection sets in, death soon after.

Person hoarding all the hygiene items watches them die while lighting cigar with $100 bill the neighbor gave him for a box of wet wipes while thinking to himself, well at least I got my money.
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Link to actual events?

Or are you leaning into the straw man argument?
 
BTW currently experiencing this at the DC I work at, quadruple whammy of the hurricane wiping out everything west of here, roads totally fucked everywhere west and north of here, people who lost everything not coming to work and now retards clearing out the shelves because they are stupid.
 
Slander said:
How would that be managed in an overwhelmed store when someone could walk out, load up their car and walk right back in again and buy more?
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Nothing is foolproof, but having non-mouth-breathing retards managing the store and overseeing it, compared with the actual technology wal mart has these days, I'd imagine it a bit easier than the impossibility you're implying.
 
animator said:
Nothing is foolproof, but having non-mouth-breathing retards managing the store and overseeing it, compared with the actual technology wal mart has these days, I'd imagine it a bit easier than the impossibility you're implying.
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Or you put a system in place that manages itself on the consumer end of things, i.e supply and demand pricing.

I get it your a government employee drone that only understands use of force to control people, but the market can normalize this pretty easily and lessen shortages.
 
animator said:
It's also a lot harder to wipe the shelves if wal mart starts limiting purchases per customer while keeping the price the same. Everyone pays the same price, and everyone has pretty equal access to the things. Also keeps the gougers from buying it all only to flip it for double in the damn parking lot.
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Maybe, multiple trips and multiple people.

People that can and do pay double in the parking lot aren't suffering :laughing:

It's far from a life support item or basic necessity. The people buying the TP seem to think it's worth paying for, they can be as stupid as they want.

What about all them hording people thatve excess inventory now? Where is there relief? :laughing:
 
Slander said:
Scenario on where hoarding and flipping for a profit is most likely to occur, both scenarios there is only so many pallets of product available:
1) prices kept at current amount or even lowered. Can be bought at a discount, hoarded then sold by private parties for a greater profit mark up on the secondary market. Shelves drained and empty until supplies can be replenished

Scenario 2
2) prices are immediately doubled when the shortage is immanent, hoarders are turned away because the $$$ doesn't make much sense to flip for a profit OR they can't afford it. People who need it NOW will pay for it. Gives time for supply chains to normalize and potentially minimizing empty shelf scenario for people who NEED it.

Which scenario is better for the consumer?
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Scenario 1 is better by far. Otherwise businesses will keep the prices high or only drop it a few dollars to set the new norm.
 
Duc said:
Scenario 1 is better by far. Otherwise businesses will keep the prices high or only drop it a few dollars to set the new norm.
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Neat so the .gov should just set the price and cap them on essentials. History has shown that works great
 
Provience said:
Maybe, multiple trips and multiple people.

People that can and do pay double in the parking lot aren't suffering :laughing:

It's far from a life support item or basic necessity. The people buying the TP seem to think it's worth paying for, they can be as stupid as they want.

What about all them hording people thatve excess inventory now? Where is there relief? :laughing:
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Are you not able to differentiate between buying a little extra over a period of time to have a surplus vs buying all you can at once because you're panicked?
 
animator said:
If you don't have the capacity to understand a hypothetical, I've got nothing else for you.
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I, and most other people, have that capability.
Hypothetically, communism should work and the English should be able to build a reliable car.
However, there have been no examples of it actually happening in reality.

Here’s a hypothetical:
If the poor are being truly oppressed by the free market, they will rise up and impose their will on those who have what they want.
Hypothetically.
 
Slander said:
Or you put a system in place that manages itself on the consumer end of things, i.e supply and demand pricing.

I get it your a government employee drone that only understands use of force to control people, but the market can normalize this pretty easily and lessen shortages.
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Then only the wealthiest people of means will have the things.


I've still never mentioned government.
 
animator said:
Then only the wealthiest people of means will have the things.


I've still never mentioned government.
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Ok marx, or a short period of time until supplies comes back and prices drop, or someone else starts undercutting the prices to get that slice of the pie, and they all start lowering.

Amazing that commie propaganda has rotted the brains out of the populace.
 
IowaOffRoad said:
Here’s a hypothetical:
If the poor are being truly oppressed by the free market, they will rise up and impose their will on those who have what they want.
Hypothetically.
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When theft of the goods was brought up in another thread, some people cried about it and that stealing was wrong. Well, if you're poor and have literally no other means, rising up and just taking it is exactly what will happen.
 
animator said:
Are you not able to differentiate between buying a little extra over a period of time to have a surplus vs buying all you can at once because you're panicked?
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People that panic are fucking retarded and deserve to suffer.

That's got nothing to do with rich or poor, poverty, education, any metric.

If people have accumulated an excess and sell it for big profit, it doesn't bother me at all.
 
Slander said:
Ok marx, or a short period of time until supplies comes back and prices drop.

Amazing that commie propaganda has rotted the brains out of the populace.
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The guy who's mentioned government far more than the zero times I have calls me a communist. lol. :laughing:
 
Duc said:
Otherwise businesses will keep the prices high or only drop it a few dollars to set the new norm.
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You don't think businesses already charge the most they reasonably can?? :laughing:
 
Provience said:
People that panic are fucking retarded and deserve to suffer.

That's got nothing to do with rich or poor, poverty, education, any metric.

If people have accumulated an excess and sell it for big profit, it doesn't bother me at all.
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Nor does it bother me in a normal situation. But in an extremely devastating situation such as this, I'd put helping others ahead of turning profit. Hopefully you can see the difference.

And some dickbag will call me a communist for it. :laughing:
 
Provience said:
People that panic are fucking retarded and deserve to suffer.

That's got nothing to do with rich or poor, poverty, education, any metric.

If people have accumulated an excess and sell it for big profit, it doesn't bother me at all.
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Exactly. Pre COVID I used to give my wife shit for having like a 6 month stock of dry household goods and shampoo and shit like that. She did it mostly out of not wanting to go to the store. During COVID we were able to ride out the idiocy and I stopped giving her shit.

Not a prepper by any means, but having shit on hand buys you time in a crises.
 
animator said:
Then only the wealthiest people of means will have the things.


I've still never mentioned government.
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Not really, wealthy people can have whatever...depending on themselves. Not all of them buy everything just because.

There is excess beyond that. Under any plan the wealthy chaos agent could make it all free to consume it all and remove it from the market. It's got nothing to do with the overall working of anything. The wealthy are more likely to be charitable, oddly enough.

I don't think anybody would pay a week's wages just for shit tickets. That scarcity drives innovation. Wealthy pulls all TP off thr market? Okay, adapt or die. The people making their wealth off TP production may have some issue with that :laughing:
 
CJF said:
You don't think businesses already charge the most they reasonably can?? :laughing:
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Also this, it's like a basic economic concept, you price products right at or slightly below what the market will bear.

Being on a primarily conservative website, the past week has shown just how little people know about really basic level economics. This would be shit that would label you a commie in the 90s:laughing:

We really need to nuke the public school system.
 
animator said:
Nor does it bother me in a normal situation. But in an extremely devastating situation such as this, I'd put helping others ahead of turning profit. Hopefully you can see the difference.

And some dickbag will call me a communist for it. :laughing:
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You certainly can and most people will, which is why it's not worth caring at all about "gouging" . Gouging is caused by panic. People that panic in normal or extreme times are retarded :flipoff2:

I just don't change my standards based on the weather is all :flipoff2:
 
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