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It's the Jeffersons trailer cause we're moving on up, not cause it's black,
After a coupe requests to post more about this project I figured I would start documenting this build, but first a little back story,
! Warning ! If you don't like a "Cool story bro" or care about what lead up to this project, skip the fist couple posts.
Our current trailer is they typical crawler hauler, 20ish foot (closer to 18' without the tongue) travel trailer on a 34 triple axle tag trailer,
This combination has worked fine for the last 8+ years, & other than tires, has been a really reliable trailer for many trips, but as with any RV, the travel trailer portion is starting to show its age, there are a couple spots where the fiberglass sides are starting to delaminate, to use the refrigerator I have to manually light the pilot light, the AC quit working, & now the bath tub/shower has a crack,
With the new rig that I am building I knew I would need more deck/hauling area due to the longer wheel base, so I considered just getting another, newer, shorter travel trailer & swapping them out.
There were two cons to this,
1, Not only is the new project rig longer, it will be considerably heavier than my buggy, so bigger trailer axles & rubber would be nice
2, I no longer haul a rig on the back of the truck, so a 5th wheel trailer would be much better than the bumper pull,
So I decided a commercial sized trailer would be a better option, There are a couple down sides to this I'll get into later, but I really think the pros outweigh the cons,
Knowing what direction I wanted to go I started looking for a trailer, I wasn't in a rush to buy anything as I figure the old setup has several years left in it, & it would be a while before the new project rig was do to where I really needed a different trailer to haul it, but I did want to get the ball rolling so when the new trailer was done the old crawler hauler could be sold & still be plenty usable,
Keeping an eye on local Craig's list, & FB market place ads I was specifically looking for single or double drop, moving van style trailers, preferably double drop as the center of the trailer drops way down after the 5th wheel pin, then has raised inner fender boxes over the axles & tires, this would be good for keeping the weight lower in the trailer, & bigger more common rubber.
It didn't take long to find what I needed, I run across an ad on CL for a 40ft double drop 1974 Dorsey moving van in Tacoma Washington, the pics looked good & the seller was a reputable trailer dealer, since it was listed as road worthy I knew it should at least make the trip home, & I wouldn't be out there fixing lights in the parking lot just to get on the road, the only down side was it had Dayton style wheels/hubs & tube type tires, Nothing a new set of hubs & wheels wouldn't fix later.
After nearly 1500 miles, $5000.00 & driving for over 24 hrs strait, I had a new old trailer in the yard,
BUT,,,,,, about 20 hours into this trip, well on my way home while looking in the mirror, I noticed the rear fenders on the truck sticking out just slightly from under the trailer, with a sinking feeling in my gut I thought "this has to be an 8ft wide trailer"
First thing I did when I rolled into the yard was grab a tape measure & sure enough, 96" wide to the outside of the trailer, & inside the walls were only 93" that wasn't even looking at getting through the door way,
For most this would probably be ok, but both my rigs have Axletech diffs, they are 94.75" wide.
I had no idea they ever made any commercial trailer that wasn't 102 inches wide, but here's a little fun fact, 102" didn't become common until the early/mid 80's.
Needless to say this trailer was backed in a slot, posted for sale, & my search continued,
It wasn't long before another prospect popped up on CL in the Folsom/Sacramento area, After confirming with the seller that this second trailer was in fact 102" wide, & getting lots of pics, I went for another drive,
Another day trip (this one much shorter) & another $5k, I had another trailer in the yard. This one was a 1985 Alloy, 40ft, double trop, single axle (less tires to buy later!)
It was originally a Police command center, basically a rolling office, even though they are in the wrong location for my use, it did come with a bathroom, & 10kw Onan generator.
Kind of odd but the exterior walls on this trailer was laminated plywood/fiberglass construction, & really thick hardwood floors, it was noticeably lighter than the Dorsey,
Someone had already started stripping the inside, so not long after getting it home I continued stripping it out,
However once I had it nearly cleaned out, I decided I just didn't like the fiberglass walls. Delamination is one of the issues with the crawler hauler, & figured there was no point in putting a bunch of effort into a trailer with the potential to have the same problem,
So it was backed in next to the Dorsey & posted up for sale,
It actually took a few months to come across the 3rd prospect, but sure enough, Craig's List struck again,
This time it was a 1986 Kentucky, 48ft, single drop with low pro rubber, & a nice hydraulic lift on the back.
Not a double drop, but would still work fine. After a phone call to confirm it was 102" wide I set a date to go take a look,
Fortunately right before going to look at trailer #3 a guy came out & looked at the Alloy (cop trailer) & decided to buy it,
$5,500 this time & another day trip less than 12 hours to northern CA to get this one back to the yard.
This trailer was chocked full of junk, not good junk either, it had been used as storage for years, slapped together shelves front to back down both sides littered with everything from old life vests & umbrellas to fabric & old seat upholstery, there were a few little nuggets in there, but they were far & few between, The storage bins under the trailer however were stacked full of wood, not dimensional lumber, just good fire wood & cribbing, (best score in the whole unit for a guy that heats his shop with a wood stove)
I was a couple sets of days off cleaning this one out, but once the trash was gone, & any goodies given away I disassembled all the 2x4/plywood shelves & stacked the lumber up, (street value lately is probably more than I paid for the trailer)
Inside the trailer was insulated walls, tons of E-trac, & beautiful hardwood floors, 3 good sized curb side loading doors, & a big double door on the street side,
Really good potential for using a couple of the curb side doors for building slide outs. The rear most curb side door was in the perfect location for exiting whatever rig was being hauled,
I was really exited about this trailer, but for some odd reason I continued shopping,
With the Mayflower still backed up to the shop where I had just cleaned it out the week before, I yet again happened across an ad, this time on FB, only this time it wasn't someone's storage unit, or an old office, or even a moving van, it was a real, purpose built race trailer,
I've looked at a lot of those while shopping for an old junker to build, the problem is usually they have short, narrow door openings, usually a stacker (2 level) & always out of my price range, (usually mid $40-50k on up to $150k or more)
This one had a door floor to ceiling, & was in the $30k price range, so I figured it was worth a message to get the skinny,
I'm going to take a moment to point out, it was only at this time my wife give me any sideways looks at all, & her only comment was "You just barely got the 3rd trailer cleaned out!" I simply reassured her that all bets are off until I start putting screws in one. Besides I had just sold the Dorsey (trailer #1) so I had the room,
After a coupe requests to post more about this project I figured I would start documenting this build, but first a little back story,
! Warning ! If you don't like a "Cool story bro" or care about what lead up to this project, skip the fist couple posts.
Our current trailer is they typical crawler hauler, 20ish foot (closer to 18' without the tongue) travel trailer on a 34 triple axle tag trailer,
This combination has worked fine for the last 8+ years, & other than tires, has been a really reliable trailer for many trips, but as with any RV, the travel trailer portion is starting to show its age, there are a couple spots where the fiberglass sides are starting to delaminate, to use the refrigerator I have to manually light the pilot light, the AC quit working, & now the bath tub/shower has a crack,
With the new rig that I am building I knew I would need more deck/hauling area due to the longer wheel base, so I considered just getting another, newer, shorter travel trailer & swapping them out.
There were two cons to this,
1, Not only is the new project rig longer, it will be considerably heavier than my buggy, so bigger trailer axles & rubber would be nice
2, I no longer haul a rig on the back of the truck, so a 5th wheel trailer would be much better than the bumper pull,
So I decided a commercial sized trailer would be a better option, There are a couple down sides to this I'll get into later, but I really think the pros outweigh the cons,
Knowing what direction I wanted to go I started looking for a trailer, I wasn't in a rush to buy anything as I figure the old setup has several years left in it, & it would be a while before the new project rig was do to where I really needed a different trailer to haul it, but I did want to get the ball rolling so when the new trailer was done the old crawler hauler could be sold & still be plenty usable,
Keeping an eye on local Craig's list, & FB market place ads I was specifically looking for single or double drop, moving van style trailers, preferably double drop as the center of the trailer drops way down after the 5th wheel pin, then has raised inner fender boxes over the axles & tires, this would be good for keeping the weight lower in the trailer, & bigger more common rubber.
It didn't take long to find what I needed, I run across an ad on CL for a 40ft double drop 1974 Dorsey moving van in Tacoma Washington, the pics looked good & the seller was a reputable trailer dealer, since it was listed as road worthy I knew it should at least make the trip home, & I wouldn't be out there fixing lights in the parking lot just to get on the road, the only down side was it had Dayton style wheels/hubs & tube type tires, Nothing a new set of hubs & wheels wouldn't fix later.
After nearly 1500 miles, $5000.00 & driving for over 24 hrs strait, I had a new old trailer in the yard,
BUT,,,,,, about 20 hours into this trip, well on my way home while looking in the mirror, I noticed the rear fenders on the truck sticking out just slightly from under the trailer, with a sinking feeling in my gut I thought "this has to be an 8ft wide trailer"
First thing I did when I rolled into the yard was grab a tape measure & sure enough, 96" wide to the outside of the trailer, & inside the walls were only 93" that wasn't even looking at getting through the door way,
For most this would probably be ok, but both my rigs have Axletech diffs, they are 94.75" wide.
I had no idea they ever made any commercial trailer that wasn't 102 inches wide, but here's a little fun fact, 102" didn't become common until the early/mid 80's.
Needless to say this trailer was backed in a slot, posted for sale, & my search continued,
It wasn't long before another prospect popped up on CL in the Folsom/Sacramento area, After confirming with the seller that this second trailer was in fact 102" wide, & getting lots of pics, I went for another drive,
Another day trip (this one much shorter) & another $5k, I had another trailer in the yard. This one was a 1985 Alloy, 40ft, double trop, single axle (less tires to buy later!)
It was originally a Police command center, basically a rolling office, even though they are in the wrong location for my use, it did come with a bathroom, & 10kw Onan generator.
Kind of odd but the exterior walls on this trailer was laminated plywood/fiberglass construction, & really thick hardwood floors, it was noticeably lighter than the Dorsey,
Someone had already started stripping the inside, so not long after getting it home I continued stripping it out,
However once I had it nearly cleaned out, I decided I just didn't like the fiberglass walls. Delamination is one of the issues with the crawler hauler, & figured there was no point in putting a bunch of effort into a trailer with the potential to have the same problem,
So it was backed in next to the Dorsey & posted up for sale,
It actually took a few months to come across the 3rd prospect, but sure enough, Craig's List struck again,
This time it was a 1986 Kentucky, 48ft, single drop with low pro rubber, & a nice hydraulic lift on the back.
Not a double drop, but would still work fine. After a phone call to confirm it was 102" wide I set a date to go take a look,
Fortunately right before going to look at trailer #3 a guy came out & looked at the Alloy (cop trailer) & decided to buy it,
$5,500 this time & another day trip less than 12 hours to northern CA to get this one back to the yard.
This trailer was chocked full of junk, not good junk either, it had been used as storage for years, slapped together shelves front to back down both sides littered with everything from old life vests & umbrellas to fabric & old seat upholstery, there were a few little nuggets in there, but they were far & few between, The storage bins under the trailer however were stacked full of wood, not dimensional lumber, just good fire wood & cribbing, (best score in the whole unit for a guy that heats his shop with a wood stove)
I was a couple sets of days off cleaning this one out, but once the trash was gone, & any goodies given away I disassembled all the 2x4/plywood shelves & stacked the lumber up, (street value lately is probably more than I paid for the trailer)
Inside the trailer was insulated walls, tons of E-trac, & beautiful hardwood floors, 3 good sized curb side loading doors, & a big double door on the street side,
Really good potential for using a couple of the curb side doors for building slide outs. The rear most curb side door was in the perfect location for exiting whatever rig was being hauled,
I was really exited about this trailer, but for some odd reason I continued shopping,
With the Mayflower still backed up to the shop where I had just cleaned it out the week before, I yet again happened across an ad, this time on FB, only this time it wasn't someone's storage unit, or an old office, or even a moving van, it was a real, purpose built race trailer,
I've looked at a lot of those while shopping for an old junker to build, the problem is usually they have short, narrow door openings, usually a stacker (2 level) & always out of my price range, (usually mid $40-50k on up to $150k or more)
This one had a door floor to ceiling, & was in the $30k price range, so I figured it was worth a message to get the skinny,
I'm going to take a moment to point out, it was only at this time my wife give me any sideways looks at all, & her only comment was "You just barely got the 3rd trailer cleaned out!" I simply reassured her that all bets are off until I start putting screws in one. Besides I had just sold the Dorsey (trailer #1) so I had the room,