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Rockbuggy84 said:
I live in California
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arse_sidewards said:
Same but with the absolutely massive caveat that they were still doing worthless hippie shit and working menial jobs when they were my age. But they made every dumb decision in the book and I've been prioritizing doing it right since I was a teenager.

If I behaved like them I sure as shit wouldn't have what they have now when I'm their age.
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My parents were reasonably responsible. Both college educated with steady employment. Really their biggest financial sin has been new vehicles every 5-10 years, but they were never buying super fancy expensive stuff, just pretty basic transportation.
 
'84 Bronco II said:
My parents were reasonably responsible. Both college educated with steady employment. Really their biggest financial sin has been new vehicles every 5-10 years, but they were never buying super fancy expensive stuff, just pretty basic transportation.
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My parents made no real large financial mistakes after they decided to get serious about life but that took them until their 30s. Once they got serious they basically did everything right on the micro level but my dad did catch some really bad luck with his timing in his career moves vs the economy and my mom stopped working to raise all the kids.

I can't imagine how poorly that path would have worked out had they began the same sequence of events 20-30yr later. Digging out of the hole that 10yr of neglecting your career gets you (lucky for them they did it when consumer debt wasn't really a big readily available thing) would have taken much longer to dig out of. They probably wouldn't even be homeowners and my younger siblings certainly wouldn't have grown up in the material conditions they did.
 
Roc Doc said:
My Vegas house was 2460' on a 6500' lot, so that's 1/6th acre. :laughing: 5.5" from the centerline of the fence to the structure. Now they're
building these 3 story townhomes that look like three shipping containers stacked on top of each other. NBD, but I sure do like having some room and space from neighbors now.
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Yeah, back when I did single family residential the big national home builders did 1/6th an acre. I was gearing the 1/4 toward 45acp so he can understand.

His gator farm and mullet emporium warehouse take up 1/6th sn acre on its own .... :flipoff2:
 
Texas97 said:
Yeah, back when I did single family residential the big national home builders did 1/6th an acre. I was gearing the 1/4 toward 45acp so he can understand.

His gator farm and mullet emporium warehouse take up 1/6th sn acre on its own .... :flipoff2:
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Thats one of the nice things about being in an area where land is almost free. The new McMansion neighborhoods all get big yards. No point in stacking a bunch of 3500 footers up against each other... for an extra $2500 you can just give everyone an acre or two. :flipoff2:


It is funny how perspective works. Had a childhood friend who was well to do-ish. Lived in a MASSIVE house. We all talked about it. We called it "the mall". Everybody wanted to spend the night at this kids house. He had the smallest bedroom and it was bigger than our living room. Decades later I saw the house up for sale and remembered how absolutely huge it was. Scrolled through the listing, 2800 heated. :laughing:
 
the first house i bought was 700 sqft. my current house is 1600 sqft. my wife has not worked in 30 plus years. it is very doable to live on one pay check. i worked plenty of OT and side hustles. We gave up new cars and eating out all the time. and now that the kids are gone, i could get rid of the second floor of my house.
 
My first house I bought a new 2400 sq foot home in a nice neighborhood with an hoa. Had no landscaping so wife and I (first ex wife) improved the hell out of the property. Then got in trouble with the HOA for having to many vehicles. Sold it and bought a 1921 with 1090 sq ft on .7 acres, Was the perfect house for me. I’d do another one that size again and skip the to big house with no property. Probably end up with a doublewide on acres down here.
 
If you put a double wide on top of a tall (tall because you need clearance for a lift) foundation cut into the side of a hill you can probably convince the tax man to tax it like a double wide while still having drive-in access to the garage/shop on one end and walk in access to the home on the other. If you're into sports cars or any shit other than fullsize trucks/SUVs you can probably cram two cars by the door, a fullsize lift space after that and then the rest is just shop space.

INB4 the yokels who hate basements show up.
 
arse_sidewards said:
If you put a double wide on top of a tall (tall because you need clearance for a lift) foundation cut into the side of a hill you can probably convince the tax man to tax it like a double wide while still having drive-in access to the garage/shop on one end and walk in access to the home on the other. If you're into sports cars or any shit other than fullsize trucks/SUVs you can probably cram two cars by the door, a fullsize lift space after that and then the rest is just shop space.

INB4 the yokels who hate basements show up.
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That would be my version of PAE’s pipe dream container shop. In Silt Colorado there’s a DW that the whole basement is a garage but the garage doors are on the long side instead of the narrow end. I’d like to replicate it with my own twists. Already looked into it, it requires a lot more percent down to proceed. I had that pile of money until I got divorced recently. Now I need a few years to replace the pile.
 
JR4X said:
That would be my version of PAE’s pipe dream container shop. In Silt Colorado there’s a DW that the whole basement is a garage but the garage doors are on the long side instead of the narrow end. I’d like to replicate it with my own twists. Already looked into it, it requires a lot more percent down to proceed. I had that pile of money until I got divorced recently. Now I need a few years to replace the pile.
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Buy a machine that can move dirt and 486 that bitch one 2ft pour at a time. :flipoff2:

I bet if you read enough local tax rules you can find a municipality that won't tax the mobile home as permanent if it still has its axles or some shit.
 
arse_sidewards said:
INB4 the yokels who hate basements show up.
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FWIW I don't hate basements... I hate basements where I live and the low imagination yankee twats that don't understand why they're not viable on every square inch of the planet.

Up in solid ground America, with hills and grades and drainage, where the water table isn't 8ft, I think basements are pretty cool. Have me transferred away from this black dirt crawfish infested shit hole and I'll build a house with a basement. :flipoff2:
 
45acp said:
FWIW I don't hate basements... I hate basements where I live and the low imagination yankee twats that don't understand why they're not viable on every square inch of the planet.

Up in solid ground America, with hills and grades and drainage, where the water table isn't 8ft, I think basements are pretty cool. Have me transferred away from this black dirt crawfish infested shit hole and I'll build a house with a basement. :flipoff2:
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You weren't who I was thinking of. :laughing:
 
Does the anti-basement crowd here know about earth homes? I just saw a new one last week that was built within the last year. There's at least 6-12 of them around here. The whole damn house is a basement. :laughing::flipoff2:
 
Tin Roof said:
Does the anti-basement crowd here know about earth homes? I just saw a new one last week that was built within the last year. There's at least 6-12 of them around here. The whole damn house is a basement. :laughing::flipoff2:
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They work really well around here. There’s no such thing as a water table here. When I was in high school some friends of mine lived in an underground house. The whole thing was cement and it just looks like grass from the road.
 
JR4X said:
They work really well around here. There’s no such thing as a water table here. When I was in high school some friends of mine lived in an underground house. The whole thing was cement and it just looks like grass from the road.
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Here they are a regular roof, open front, and dirt to the eve on the back and sides. With the required skylight/emergency egress in the roof.

When I was a teenager a neighbor had one. I was at their house when it was zero degrees out, and they didn't have to light their woodstove till late morning. The ultimate in efficient homes.
 
Tin Roof said:
Here they are a regular roof, open front, and dirt to the eve on the back and sides. With the required skylight/emergency egress in the roof.

When I was a teenager a neighbor had one. I was at their house when it was zero degrees out, and they didn't have to light their woodstove till late morning. The ultimate in efficient homes.
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Yeah it gets 110 here in the summer and that cement home with grass growing on the roof didn’t have or need an air conditioner. Had a heater though.
 
Tin Roof said:
Does the anti-basement crowd here know about earth homes? I just saw a new one last week that was built within the last year. There's at least 6-12 of them around here. The whole damn house is a basement. :laughing::flipoff2:
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This ones been around a while, I remember thinking it was the coolest place when I was a kid. It still seems pretty damn cool

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95stepside said:
This ones been around a while, I remember thinking it was the coolest place when I was a kid. It still seems pretty damn cool

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That is just like mine. Big windows on the south side. Egress for each bedroom.

Cheap to heat, expensive to cool. If the sun is out in December, could be 10 degrees outside but my house will be 80.

I have no idea how to cool it down more efficiently, would be nice to figure something out though. Attic fan would probably help a ton most days.

Super quiet, often don't hear storms at all.

Cleaning gutters is easy, but you better keep them clean.
 
Both my house and guest house are at least 3/4 underground. It's been in the 80's and both are currently showing 71 degrees inside.

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45acp said:
FWIW I don't hate basements... I hate basements where I live and the low imagination yankee twats that don't understand why they're not viable on every square inch of the planet.

Up in solid ground America, with hills and grades and drainage, where the water table isn't 8ft, I think basements are pretty cool. Have me transferred away from this black dirt crawfish infested shit hole and I'll build a house with a basement. :flipoff2:
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Moving south from the great, formerly free, state of MN... we had no idea that Bonus Rooms were the "basement of the south."
If we could go back, we'd have done a full basement... didn't need the room, but the value of that sqft is greater (personally) than we thought.
 
rockota said:
Moving south from the great, formerly free, state of MN... we had no idea that Bonus Rooms were the "basement of the south."
If we could go back, we'd have done a full basement... didn't need the room, but the value of that sqft is greater (personally) than we thought.
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My house is built on solid ass limestone rock. If I had F you money, I'd probably not live here, BUT maybe I would and I'd love to dig a basement, cellar, root cellar or whatever, that would be in my current footprint.

Would be amazing.
 
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