Spinoff - school locker searches

[Tin Roof]

It's becoming more common, even in our rural area, for high schools to allow the local Sheriff to run their dog through the school checking lockers once or twice a year.
Our school allows it, but has only done it a couple times.

There's always two arguments on this,
1 - they are minors using public property so they have no right to privacy
2 - it's an invasion of privacy and unwarranted without cause

What say the IBB?

 

[total newb]

Even as non minors, not your locker, no rights to uphold.

Every job ive ever had that provided lockers explains to you day #1 your locker can and will be searched at any time for any reason.

Most places have intergrated combo locks and you can not use any other lock on it even it does have anadditional loop.

We have a locker bank at the mill and we just got that talk a few days ago. They even got shitty about us using our provided locks on them, the locks THAT THEY HAVE MASTER KEYS TO.

Shits retarded
If youre dumb enough to keep drugs in not your locker you deserve to get popped.

 

[AKnate]

Even as non minors, not your locker, no rights to uphold.

Every job ive ever had that provided lockers explains to you day #1 your locker can and will be searched at any time for any reason.

Most places have intergrated combo locks and you can not use any other lock on it even it does have anadditional loop.

We have a locker bank at the mill and we just got that talk a few days ago. They even got shitty about us using our provided locks on them, the locks THAT THEY HAVE MASTER KEYS TO.

Shits retarded
If youre dumb enough to keep drugs in not your locker you deserve to get popped.

We had a guy get "busted" for running a commissary out of a couple lockers.

Work apparently got a cut of the sales from the crazy overpriced vending machines (like $6 for a Redbuill, $4 for a cup o noodles, $2 cans of soda) so they noticed sales were down.

Go figure why people came and went at that place. They'd spend millions and millions on equipment but clock out 5 mins late and you were talking to the man about them having to pay $0.06 of overtime.

 

[Tiha]

If they are using a drug dog then it is not just some random search. The dog will narrow down the search. So not every kid is "violated"

I say go for it. There are so many things out there trying to ruin our kids lives. Get to it. Search away.

Part of it I am sure depends on family structure. If my kids can't have it at home, why would I allow them to have it at school?
If I am not going to allow them to commit crimes at home, why would I allow it at school?
If They cannot select their gender at home, why would I allow them to do it at school?

 

[M92PV4U]

The dogs would alert our backpacks and they would get searched. I quit carrying a backpack and never had a locker.

 

[Squamch]

They never ran a dog through our schools, wouldn't want teachers getting busted.

 

[Motorcharge]

They did it here when I was in high school like once a year. They'd announce when it was happening and inevitably some retard would still bring in weed that day and get caught.

Never had an issue with them doing it in the school, it's not private property. They'd also do it with student cars though which I always thought was horseshit. Had to agree to it to get a parking pass though and the school wouldn't "let" you park on the public streets near the school. They had no way to enforce that though so people just did it anyway.

 

[bad zuki]

Public school is public property. The inside of the cars parked on the school property shouldn't fall under the category, IMHO.

Just don't be stupid with it and smoke under the welding fume hood, thinking that it will pull the smell away.

 

[east_beast]

Gotta train them to accept the surveillance state from an early age! If you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to be concerned about, right?

 

[DannyK]

You don't own the locker, the school does.

 

[Tiha]

They'd also do it with student cars though which I always thought was horseshit. Had to agree to it to get a parking pass though and the school wouldn't "let" you park on the public streets near the school. They had no way to enforce that though so people just did it anyway.

That is messed up. Who agreed to the parking pass? Their parents? Or the minor kid?
Who owns the car?

I bought my cars, I paid insurance and it was all mine. but I was a minor. Cannot legally enter into any binding contract.

Wonder what happened that they needed to take such drastic steps.

 

[KYZuk]

Our school did locker searches once or twice a year and would run the dog through the parking lot at the same time. It was well known that the one dog my small town had wasn’t much of a police k9. They hit on my car one day. Went out and popped the hatch and the dog went apeshit over my work boots. I laughed. The cop wasn’t impressed. He then tore my car apart saying his dog doesn’t miss… when he finally got done and the dog was still tearing up my boots he asked what was so funny.

I worked in a butcher shop. It was my job to spray down and clean it every night. Literally standing in meat water for an hour. That’s why his stupid dog hit on my work boots.

They quit bringing the dog to the school after that. I got a new pair of boots out of it, though.

 

[Vinman]

If the student isn’t the only person that has access to the lockers (school holds master comb/key) them they shouldn’t be responsible for any contraband found inside.

 

[Thumping]

In my opinion, no its not an invasion of privacy. The lockers belong to the school. The same as work or office. My computer at work does not belong to me and the company or IT has the right to look over anything that might be on it.

Want privacy, home school.

 

[Motorcharge]

That is messed up. Who agreed to the parking pass? Their parents? Or the minor kid?
Who owns the car?

I bought my cars, I paid insurance and it was all mine. but I was a minor. Cannot legally enter into any binding contract.

Wonder what happened that they needed to take such drastic steps.

Your parents had to sign off on it and the passes came with all kinds of stipulations like minimum GPA, consent to staff searching your car whenever they felt like it, had to let the school know if anyone rode with you instead of on the busses, etc.

 

[JK13]

Gotta train them to accept the surveillance state from an early age! If you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to be concerned about, right?

This, though I get with public lockers there isn’t the same level of privacy

 

[bigun]

I quit using a school locker after the third time of assholes squirting honey, cheap perfume... through the vents in Jr High. Bought a cheap plastic brief case to carry my books and use as a club

 

[jeepyj]

I quit using a school locker after the third time of assholes squirting honey, cheap perfume... through the vents in Jr High. Bought a cheap plastic brief case to carry my books and use as a club

I 'may' have 'accidentally' used fire on those vents. Interestingly, the stuff did burn but no fire alarms went off. Kinda sucked. 1984

 

[NakedJeep]

you still have lockers? Taken away in the schools my kids went to in Los Angeles

 

[CarterKraft]

If you have kids in school I have a suggestion.

Instruct your child to not claim a unlocked locker and to tape up the vents on the front if applicable.

We had a case last year where someone planted a vape in a girls unlocked locker.
The dog found it and she was expelled.

After some out rage girl was proclaimed to not be a "vaper" and a several thousand $ reward was posted for info on this incident.

Someone eventually claimed the reward and the girl was reinstated.

It really doesn't matter to me if she was guilty or not its more that the lockers in the girls locker room are not locked so there is no way to ensure ownership.

 

[Treefrog]

Lockers search away. But if they are not secured, confiscation only, not punishment.

Cars I have an issue with. There are plenty of reasons that something the school dislikes may be in my car. The school does not control what I do outside of school hours and as such has no reason to have any control over what I may have for said activities. I think our school handbook went as far as to say no knives in cars.

 

[AKnate]

They did it here when I was in high school like once a year. They'd announce when it was happening and inevitably some retard would still bring in weed that day and get caught.

Never had an issue with them doing it in the school, it's not private property. They'd also do it with student cars though which I always thought was horseshit. Had to agree to it to get a parking pass though and the school wouldn't "let" you park on the public streets near the school. They had no way to enforce that though so people just did it anyway.

Fancy school.

A few times a year we rode 4 wheelers or snowmobiles to school.

Principal through a tantrum till the parents basically said deal with it, want the kids in school right?

 

[CJF]

Public school is public property. The inside of the cars parked on the school property shouldn't fall under the category, IMHO.

Maybe it shouldn't, but it does, 100%.

 

[Brettjord]

 

[posford]

We had the drug dog at the HS I went to, but the truancy official (not a cop) sold a shitload of weed and would let his customers know ahead of time. Guy had a crazy racket going.

I had my locker searched once in 8th grade. Thought I was a comedian and said something along the lines of "hey kid you wanna buy some crack" in my best Dave Chappell (black guy not fabricator) impression to an underclassman while walking through the hallway. Kid was apparently a narc and ran to the principal, and I got seriously questioned for selling crack in white as fuck NH at 13 years old.

 

[Penetrode Offroad]

The dogs would alert our backpacks and they would get searched. I quit carrying a backpack and never had a locker.

You went to school? I thought you went straight from momma's tit to shifting gears in the well rig.

 

[M92PV4U]

You went to school? I thought you went straight from momma's tit to shifting gears in the well rig.

I did, then school, then back to the rig. Early one morning while moving equipment, I was riding with my dad who was driving the water truck. I was tired and sleeping on the passenger door. My dad woke me up and told me not to lean against that door as I sat up straight, the door flew open .

 

[bigun]

Fancy school.

A few times a year we rode 4 wheelers or snowmobiles to school.

Principal through a tantrum till the parents basically said deal with it, want the kids in school right?

When I was in Jr high guy missed the school bus so he drove a tractor to school, principle made him take it home, followed him in his car then brought him back

 

[YZRider]

They never ran a dog through our schools, wouldn't want teachers getting busted.

Everyone knew which teachers were getting baked on the job, they just ran the dogs past the lockers while the school was locked down for a "bomb threat".

 

[87manche]

The only problem i have with the it's public property so you have no rights argument is that you force them to attend a school.
It's not the same as you took a job with a policy.