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[Offroadman83]

Branik posted they have something going up Black Friday.

Thanks...ill be on the lookout for sure

 

[Mike Honcho]

A large factor in me getting a $300 crusty XD9500i off marketplace was as much the style and brand name, reputation too. Even though I could get a new Badlands for the same price.

Exactly! Who the hell wants to advertise Chinesium on the front of there rig

 

[94toytruck]

Meh, they're both built over seas. At the end of the day I still trust Warn over harbor freight.

 

[PAToyota]

Exactly! Who the hell wants to advertise Chinesium on the front of there rig

Except that anyone who knows a bit knows that the EVO is Chinesium too...

 

[Brad]

Now go pick up some massive subwoofers in Dublin or Concord or wherever they are.

What the fuck are you talking about🤨

 

[94toytruck]

Branik sale was posted this morning.

 

[YJBrian]

Supposedly… but have no clue if it’s going to actually happen. 🤷‍♂️

Winch showed up today. Pulled it into the house because my shoulder is fucked and it was raining. Will open it tomorrow and see what paperwork is inside. Wife asked why I bought a winch. Told her the cost, rebate and credit and got “oh, cool, ok”

Paper referring to the $100 credit was in the box with the winch I received, good towards a purchase on the Warn website. Have not tried to claim it yet. Rebate status check shows the $150 rebate was approved but not mailed.

 

[subybaja]

Well, crap. Evo wireless is recalled and NLA. I guess I'll get the stupid bluetooth dongle, cause wet and muddy is just when I want to play with my phone.

VR EVO Remote and Control Module - 104218

A versatile, two-in-one remote gives users the option, and security, of either wired or wireless connectivity when operating the winch. You have a full-range of options, whatever the terrain or circumstances.

www.warn.com

The VR EVO Remote Recall: What You Need To Know

The remote for the WARN VR EVO's remote has been recalled. Here's what to do.

www.warn.com

Any recommendations for an aftermarket wireless controller?

What's different about the Evo that a standard Warn wireless doesn't work?

 

[TRINDU]

Well, crap. Evo wireless is recalled and NLA. I guess I'll get the stupid bluetooth dongle, cause wet and muddy is just when I want to play with my phone.

VR EVO Remote and Control Module - 104218

A versatile, two-in-one remote gives users the option, and security, of either wired or wireless connectivity when operating the winch. You have a full-range of options, whatever the terrain or circumstances.

www.warn.com

The VR EVO Remote Recall: What You Need To Know

The remote for the WARN VR EVO's remote has been recalled. Here's what to do.

www.warn.com

Any recommendations for an aftermarket wireless controller?

What's different about the Evo that a standard Warn wireless doesn't work?

warn wireless remote kit plugs into the controller plug on the solenoid pack. With the evo, i get close, hit the mode button till the blue light comes on, then get to it. theres nothing to plug in on the pack.

 

[Tech Tim]

And how is the 10k cheaper than the 8k? That's weird.

We're guessing that they had way more 10K winches in the warehouse than 8K winches.

 

[Brad]

Paper referring to the $100 credit was in the box with the winch I received, good towards a purchase on the Warn website. Have not tried to claim it yet. Rebate status check shows the $150 rebate was approved but not mailed.

I got the paper. Haven’t checked the rebate status. Do you fill out the same form again? That’s what it looked like

 

[bgaidan]

Well, crap. Evo wireless is recalled and NLA. I guess I'll get the stupid bluetooth dongle, cause wet and muddy is just when I want to play with my phone.

VR EVO Remote and Control Module - 104218

A versatile, two-in-one remote gives users the option, and security, of either wired or wireless connectivity when operating the winch. You have a full-range of options, whatever the terrain or circumstances.

www.warn.com

The VR EVO Remote Recall: What You Need To Know

The remote for the WARN VR EVO's remote has been recalled. Here's what to do.

www.warn.com

Any recommendations for an aftermarket wireless controller?

What's different about the Evo that a standard Warn wireless doesn't work?

We're guessing that they had way more 10K winches in the warehouse than 8K winches.

Do the EVOs have a different plug?


Waiting until I mine shows up to see what the options are. I'll either buy another EVO remote or whatever the cheapest option is to get something with a male plug on it and then just make a pigtail to use an HF wireless remote with it.

I'm really surprised nobody has come out with an aftermarket copy of the warn plugs. All the warn stuff, even just replacement plug ends and sockets is stupid expensive. May have to try 3d printing one if I can find the right pins.

 

['84 Bronco II]

Since this thread isn't really just about tool deals anymore, Poly Performance is blowing out a bunch of Fox shocks right now. No airshocks unfortunately, but a lot of coil overs. https://www.polyperformance.com/sale/fox-shock-blowout?product_list_limit=all

 

[TrikeKid]

Hey Tim did your shopping department take the week off?

 

[SHARPMACHINE]

Do the EVOs have a different plug?


Waiting until I mine shows up to see what the options are. I'll either buy another EVO remote or whatever the cheapest option is to get something with a male plug on it and then just make a pigtail to use an HF wireless remote with it.

I'm really surprised nobody has come out with an aftermarket copy of the warn plugs. All the warn stuff, even just replacement plug ends and sockets is stupid expensive. May have to try 3d printing one if I can find the right pins.

I got a winch also. And I am curious what you find. Very unfortunate that they don't have a wireless option available now...

 

[bgaidan]

I got a winch also. And I am curious what you find. Very unfortunate that they don't have a wireless option available now...

Mine's showing out for delivery right now so I should have my eyes on it shortly...


I thought the $100 voucher said they were working on a wireless replacement but didn't have an ETA yet. I'd be shocked if they don't come up with something. From the recall notice, it looked the the problem was that the remotes were really cheaply made and not waterproof so moisture was getting inside and corroding and shorting out the battery. Surely they'll come back with an improved design.


At the same time, if I can come up with an easy way to adapt the HF remote, I'd rather use that since it'd be interchangeable with a couple other winches I already have.

I actually have one of these sitting unopened on my shelf too. I didn't even realize they went with the same little receiver module style that warn's $250+ remote uses.

Hard to beat these for $60.

 

[Tech Tim]

What's different, gearing or motor?

Yep.....

Looks like the motor is different between the 8K and 10/12K models and the gearing is different between the 8/10K and 12K models.

 

[bgaidan]

Mine just showed up...

Obligatory box photo:

Didn't have the paper inside about the $100 store credit.


Plug is the same proprietary plug as the old remotes. Remote for my old 9.5k on left, Evo on right:

I tried probing the plug to see if I could figure out the pinout. On the old style, it's pretty simple - power (or ground?) comes in on one pin and then goes out on one of two pins for in/out....which just activate your solenoids. I think the two other wires in the 5-pin plug are for the thermal protection built in to some of the winches....I ripped all that shit out and replaced the solenoids with a contactor on mine, so it only uses the 3 wires.

New remote, I couldn't find any continuity between any of the pins with buttons pressed.....


So I did what any reasonable idiot would do to a brand new toy....opened it up to see how it works.

Dumb and completely unnecessary circuit board.

Gonna have to unbox the rest of the winch and power it up to see exactly what's going on here. I'm assuming it's just 12v coming in on the red/black, but I'm curious if it's a simple 12v out or if it's lower voltage and there's another brain box in the winch itself that gets that signal. If it's the latter, it'll rule out using any 3rd part remote.

So far it looks entirely unnecessarily complicated.

I'm guessing they did it this way to intentionally make sure the accessories from higher end winches wouldn't work on these.

 

[bgaidan]

Well, this thing is fucking stupid.

I wired the winch up to a jump box so I could probe the control under power. Confirmed 12v coming in on the black/red wires. Then I'm guessing the output is digital something or other. I see about 4.6v on the yellow wire and blue must be some type of digital signal to tell it what direction to spin as it would make the solenoid go nuts if I tried to probe it while the motor was spinning.


Next step is to open up the box on the winch. I gave up on it for today as it looks like you need to unspool the cable to get to the screws on the underside.

Based on the size of the box and what I can see of the cables going in, I'm guessing there's a contactor under there instead of the 4 solenoids like in the old days. But there also has to be some type of brain board that's taking the low voltage signal from the control and activating the solenoid....unless they used some proprietary solenoid with all that integrated in to it.


New line of thought is that if there's just s contactor under there, it may be possible to just repin the socket and use the old style remote and wireless adapter and bypass the stupid computer stuff.

 

['84 Bronco II]

Trail gear 9" housings are 15% off on Summit (Trail Gear's website too, but Summit is cheaper). $731.49 for a 3.5" OD 3/8" wall housing (144049-1-KIT) or $773.50 for a 4" OD 1/4" wall housing (TGI-311396) Makes me wish I hadn't already invested in my Superduty centers

 

[wvracer821]

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[buzzbombxj]

Mine just showed up...

Obligatory box photo:

Didn't have the paper inside about the $100 store credit.


Plug is the same proprietary plug as the old remotes. Remote for my old 9.5k on left, Evo on right:

I tried probing the plug to see if I could figure out the pinout. On the old style, it's pretty simple - power (or ground?) comes in on one pin and then goes out on one of two pins for in/out....which just activate your solenoids. I think the two other wires in the 5-pin plug are for the thermal protection built in to some of the winches....I ripped all that shit out and replaced the solenoids with a contactor on mine, so it only uses the 3 wires.

New remote, I couldn't find any continuity between any of the pins with buttons pressed.....


So I did what any reasonable idiot would do to a brand new toy....opened it up to see how it works.

Dumb and completely unnecessary circuit board.

Gonna have to unbox the rest of the winch and power it up to see exactly what's going on here. I'm assuming it's just 12v coming in on the red/black, but I'm curious if it's a simple 12v out or if it's lower voltage and there's another brain box in the winch itself that gets that signal. If it's the latter, it'll rule out using any 3rd part remote.

So far it looks entirely unnecessarily complicated.

I'm guessing they did it this way to intentionally make sure the accessories from higher end winches wouldn't work on these.

This seems dumb and overcomplicated. My smittybuilt has a regular XLR connector, so I threw one of my medium length XLR cords in the winch bag to use as an extension. It would make it super easy to do in cab controls for it too.

 

[subybaja]

Well, this thing is fucking stupid.

I wired the winch up to a jump box so I could probe the control under power. Confirmed 12v coming in on the black/red wires. Then I'm guessing the output is digital something or other. I see about 4.6v on the yellow wire and blue must be some type of digital signal to tell it what direction to spin as it would make the solenoid go nuts if I tried to probe it while the motor was spinning.


Next step is to open up the box on the winch. I gave up on it for today as it looks like you need to unspool the cable to get to the screws on the underside.

Based on the size of the box and what I can see of the cables going in, I'm guessing there's a contactor under there instead of the 4 solenoids like in the old days. But there also has to be some type of brain board that's taking the low voltage signal from the control and activating the solenoid....unless they used some proprietary solenoid with all that integrated in to it.


New line of thought is that if there's just s contactor under there, it may be possible to just repin the socket and use the old style remote and wireless adapter and bypass the stupid computer stuff.

Looks like the tie plate comes off the top so you can get to the contactor.

I got the coupon.

 

[subybaja]

 

[subybaja]

Hmm.

 

[PAToyota]

Hmm.

So, how'd you do that? I have some things where that ability would come in handy.

 

[bgaidan]

Looks like the tie plate comes off the top so you can get to the contactor.

I got the coupon.

Well shit, I saw the screws on the bottom side of the box and assumed those were what held it together.


But that pic confirms what I suspected. A little brain box that converts the low voltage signal back to 12v to actuate the contactor.

So theoretically you should be able to just repin the socket to the standard Warn remote. Ideally, you'd need to see if you can matcht he pin style so you can add in two more pins where you could use the wireless remote too, but with a mimimum of 3 pins you can at least use the older style wired controller.

Or maybe better yet, see if the Badlands connector is something more standard and just completely swap out the socket and go with the $60 Badlands wired/wireless controller. I almost think that would be preferable. It looks like Badlands uses a simple round 5-pin plug/socket that many other brands use and the sockets can be found for around $10.



I'm sure there are some safety things incorporated in to that brain box, but fuck it. None of my older winches have that shit.

Hmm.

 

[94toytruck]

I'll just put a plug from a Superwinch on it so I can plug it into my buggy if that's the case.

 

[94toytruck]

ECGS sale

 

[wvracer821]

30% off at ORA. best sale of the year from them. Jacob is an awesome guy to deal with.

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