Clouds of titties are a YMMV type thing. I’ve been in lots of different off road cars and do race.That cloud of titties ride is what im looking for. I dont race and see very little high speed stuff. Mostly hills, rocks and pretty rough trails. Im averaging about 8mph by the trip meter.
It usually takes a day of recovery for my back after a day of riding. Im to old for this stuff but it beats the hell out of watching paint dry. Lol
I set up the shocks according to the fox instructions and running 8psi. Had about 15.5-16” of ground clearance. Dont have but 14” now. Factory springs are known to settle pretty badThe ST stuff is better than nothing, but the people I know that have it aren't fans and I've seen multiple posts by shock rebuilders of ST reassembling people's shocks incorrectly. So the spring kit is probably worth a shot, but I definitely wouldn't send my shocks to them.
Assuming you haven't done so, I would make sure your suspension and ride height are set up correctly and then drop your tire pressure into the single digits. I've run 8psi on mine since day 1 (without beadlocks back then) and it really helps soak up the little stuff. Mine was a 64" base model and it performed amazingly good being 100% stock, though I agree that chop (especially the gnarly washboard) can become pretty brutal.
That cloud of titties ride is what im looking for. I dont race and see very little high speed stuff. Mostly hills, rocks and pretty rough trails. Im averaging about 8mph by the trip meter.
It usually takes a day of recovery for my back after a day of riding. Im to old for this stuff but it beats the hell out of watching paint dry. Lol
You can tune for different velocities without sacrificing on for the other. A well tuned shock will be comfortable at all speeds. Having to proper spring rate goes a long way to achieving this. Trying to compensate for the wrong spring rates with valving never works out well.Clouds of titties are a YMMV type thing. I’ve been in lots of different off road cars and do race.
How soft one rides is totally dependent on how fast you go all the time. A stiff ass car at 8mph might be the cloud at 25. A stiff ass car at 25 might be the cloud at 40.
You have to be really fucking good for that to actually be true.You can tune for different velocities without sacrificing on for the other. A well tuned shock will be comfortable at all speeds.
It takes a bit to figure out but it ain't that difficult. Main thing is being able to make the proper diagnosis. Good video is key to watching what a car is doing.You have to be really fucking good for that to actually be true.
IDK man.It takes a bit to figure out but it ain't that difficult. Main thing is being able to make the proper diagnosis. Good video is key to watching what a car is doing.
That’s not how that works actually. Of course you can under spring a car. I’ve shock tuned with some of the best most respected names in shock tuning. Every one of the wants the softest springs to hold the car up and control everything with the valving.You can tune for different velocities without sacrificing on for the other. A well tuned shock will be comfortable at all speeds. Having to proper spring rate goes a long way to achieving this. Trying to compensate for the wrong spring rates with valving never works out well.
My xrc has the qs3 shocks on it. I cant really tell any difference from the 1 setting to the 3 setting.
ST claims their revalving will make a much more noticeable difference between the settings
Do you have the factory seats? One of the first things we did was swap out the stock seats for PRPs, help keep some of the vibrations away. The stock suspension seemed more optimized for going fast, The Kings I now have feel a lot nicer at slow speed than the stock QS3 shocks, so definitely room for improvement.That cloud of titties ride is what im looking for. I dont race and see very little high speed stuff. Mostly hills, rocks and pretty rough trails. Im averaging about 8mph by the trip meter.
It usually takes a day of recovery for my back after a day of riding. Im to old for this stuff but it beats the hell out of watching paint dry. Lol
My XXC will break your damn back on setting 3, to the point that its useless, especially with just me in it. I learned that just recently when we unloaded in Hatfield. I had set them on 3 to try and reduce some of the bouncing on the trailer while hauling it and then we took off first evening with me forgetting to click them back down to 2 or 1 even... hit a gravel service road and I had to radio down the leader to ask to stop and had the ATV riders click them down for me real quick to save me from jumping out. After 50 feet they had settled back down and weren't nearly as rough on that cobble road (King Coal Highway side road in Delbarton if anyone knows it).My xrc has the qs3 shocks on it. I cant really tell any difference from the 1 setting to the 3 setting.
ST claims their revalving will make a much more noticeable difference between the settings
I changed the factory seats out. Helped out a lot with the ride qualityDo you have the factory seats? One of the first things we did was swap out the stock seats for PRPs, help keep some of the vibrations away. The stock suspension seemed more optimized for going fast, The Kings I now have feel a lot nicer at slow speed than the stock QS3 shocks, so definitely room for improvement.
That’s not how that works actually. Of course you can under spring a car. I’ve shock tuned with some of the best most respected names in shock tuning. Every one of the wants the softest springs to hold the car up and control everything with the valving.
These IFS cars with low weight, and big leverage on the a-arms/trailing arms makes tuning harder. My walker evans shocks are super cushy for trail riding and light crawling. But when I go faster I blow right through all my up travel and smash the chassis on the ground, because the walkers dampening is linear end to end.
With the foxes the dampening is progressive and the rebound adjustable. So my racing shocks are “stiffer” to keep from softly comfortably blowing through all my up travel and breaking my back when the chassis hits the ground. It feels nice and cushy at race speed but at 25 mph on a trail ride I’d like my walkers back on it.
Who have you worked for? Iribe is the first person I ever tuned with. Like everyone after him he sprung the car light and did all the work with the valving.Well, I to have worked with, raced with and made parts for just about everybody. Anybody that wants light springs that "just hold up the car" does not know what they are doing. If you are ever in doubt of this, talk with Irebe at King, Todd Tenbroke formerly of Fox or Joel Ward from Bilstien. The whole light spring myth was made up to sell bigger shocks.
Who have you worked for? Iribe is the first person I ever tuned with. Like everyone after him he sprung the car light and did all the work with the valving.