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Order of jobs in shipping container shop project "not in California I might add".


Two buildings, one on each side, covered by a solid roof, open in the middle.

Pour concrete pad 50'x32' 6"-8" thick.
Figuring $10-$15K on pad.


Pitches to pick from.
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Container hardware



Source containers.


Place containers.

Source rafters / trusses.





move roofing material south to north.

Am I forgetting a step or proccess that I dont have listed ?

Going with a modified design of the pics far bottom.

The roof will look like the double can picture sitting on top of the 2 or 3 level design.

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Pouring a footing.

















Like this type of framed construction, the large beams that is with tongue and groove construction.

















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Some counties are requiring permits for shipping containers now. They may require a building permit if going beyond simply placing a 20' on your property.
 
I only have a single container for storage but it has been sitting on concrete pavers with no issues
 
It will look somewhat like this when complete, but using 4-40ft cans and double decker with a 12-15 ft wide space top and bottom.

With a work area between the two and parking for semi trucks / trailers.

These are 20' cans mine will be 40' containers and will have a solid 6"-8" of reinforced concrete flood under it, im tired of working on vehicles on dirt or gravel.

2nd pic STOLEN from a guy on what was GoldIsMoney2 / forum, its vaporware now.


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It will look somewhat like this when complete.

With a work area between the two and parking for semi trucks / trailers.

These are 20' cans mine will be 40' containers and will have a solid 6"-8" of reinforced concrete flood under it, im tired of working on vehicles on dirt or gravel.
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Are you going with the high boy or whatever models that have more headroom?
 
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Security and height, a built in place to secure the trusses and roof, better snowload preparation.

Not in California farther north.

so since you're pouring a big ass slab, what advantage do you gain with using the containers as opposed to just setting poles in the slab and building a pole barn?
 
Some counties are requiring permits for shipping containers now. They may require a building permit if going beyond simply placing a 20' on your property.
My city it's a no go and if they catch you it's like a $2000 a day fine or some shit until you get them removed. County is a free for all though.

( I HATE my city government)
 
Per my county, what the OP wants to do would require a full BP.


Containers used for storage shall require a building permit if over 120 ft2 floor area. Placement of a shipping container shall be deemed to meet building codes if the installation conforms to the following criteria*:
  • Plans shall be submitted to Building Services that clearly show the location, nature, and extent of the installation, and that it conforms to the below criteria.
  • Container is an industry-standard shipping container.
  • Container is used for private storage only and not to be used for retail, rental, or other similar business use. “Private storage” in this case means storage only of goods incidental to an existing permitted use and not available for public access or use.
  • Only non-hazardous materials shall be stored in container
  • Container shall be placed on level, stable, ground and at least five feet away from slopes greater than 1 vertical to 3 horizontal.
  • Container shall be separated from earth contact by suitable materials to distribute gravity loads to earth as well as prevent damage to the container. Clearance between ground and container floor shall not exceed 12 inches
  • Grade around container shall be sloped away from container so that runoff goes around container and not under it.
  • Container shall not be attached to other structures or other containers. Containers shall not be “stacked.”
  • Occupancy category of container shall be limited to a U or S occupancy. Maximum aggregate floor area of containers shall not exceed limit for occupancy category.
  • Containers shall meet all site setback requirements.
  • Wiring may be installed for general purpose receptacle and lighting outlets only. Wiring shall be in conduit, and limited to one 20 ampere branch circuit from an existing service. Note: A multi-wire branch circuit shall be considered as one branch circuit.
Other agency approvals may be required prior to permit issuance, depending on imposed restrictions for a particular location. If other agencies prohibit installation or impose restrictions that negate this policy, then a different approach to the permitting process will be required, subject to recognized engineering principles and applicable codes, ordinances and other laws.
 
And what state and county would this be ?


One of the reasons Im leaving this shithole state, way too much control on the people aka men and women that live on this state.

Per my county, what the OP wants to do would require a full BP.


Containers used for storage shall require a building permit if over 120 ft2 floor area. Placement of a shipping container shall be deemed to meet building codes if the installation conforms to the following criteria*:

  • Plans shall be submitted to Building Services that clearly show the location, nature, and extent of the installation, and that it conforms to the below criteria.
  • Container is an industry-standard shipping container.
  • Container is used for private storage only and not to be used for retail, rental, or other similar business use. “Private storage” in this case means storage only of goods incidental to an existing permitted use and not available for public access or use.
  • Only non-hazardous materials shall be stored in container
  • Container shall be placed on level, stable, ground and at least five feet away from slopes greater than 1 vertical to 3 horizontal.
  • Container shall be separated from earth contact by suitable materials to distribute gravity loads to earth as well as prevent damage to the container. Clearance between ground and container floor shall not exceed 12 inches
  • Grade around container shall be sloped away from container so that runoff goes around container and not under it.
  • Container shall not be attached to other structures or other containers. Containers shall not be “stacked.”
  • Occupancy category of container shall be limited to a U or S occupancy. Maximum aggregate floor area of containers shall not exceed limit for occupancy category.
  • Containers shall meet all site setback requirements.
  • Wiring may be installed for general purpose receptacle and lighting outlets only. Wiring shall be in conduit, and limited to one 20 ampere branch circuit from an existing service. Note: A multi-wire branch circuit shall be considered as one branch circuit.
Other agency approvals may be required prior to permit issuance, depending on imposed restrictions for a particular location. If other agencies prohibit installation or impose restrictions that negate this policy, then a different approach to the permitting process will be required, subject to recognized engineering principles and applicable codes, ordinances and other laws.
 
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Id personally forget about the double decker idea unless you're going to live up top

do a pair of high cubes, one on each side, then build the outside wall up 4 feet, then set your trusses on top of that, you gain a shit load of dry, semi secure storage you can get to with a pallet stacker or a welded ladder without the expense of another 2 connex boxes



And fuck paying for concrete under a connex, that's 320sqft x 2. 640 sqft of 8" that you'll never ever see or get to use, no way, make your middle slab, then set the boxes on 4 corner pieces, whether that's cribbing, big papers, sonotubes, whatever
 
I hate containers (I have 1 left). Rats love them and snakes (rattlesnakes around here) love rats. Fuck a stinky ass rat piss snake filled rusty ass container.

Good luck with yours though.
I haven't had any signs of mice in mine. I have mice constantly in my garage and attack, but not in the connex box. I usually make sure to get what I need out, and close the doors behind me. Mostly to make sure our "feral" cat doesn't sneak in there and accidently get locked in there for a a week or two before the next time I open it.
 
I hate containers (I have 1 left). Rats love them and snakes (rattlesnakes around here) love rats. Fuck a stinky ass rat piss snake filled rusty ass container.

Good luck with yours though.
ME TOO!!!!


That hot, leaky, musty, sweaty bitch. They RUINED a lot of my shit.

But they sure are trendy.
 
Thanks for the info on how a controlling state has in mind to tell the sheep of its state how to behave.
I think the rule of thumb may be, .... does my community allow me to set a trailer house?

If you can set a trailer house, I think you won't have issues with a container, other than the general suckyness of the unit.

If they wouldn't allow you to set a trailer house, I bet they have stipulations on shipping containers.

But that's just like my opinion man
 
Even JJ just doing a footer around the perimeter of the container would save a lot of cost on concrete and labor.
 
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I wouldn't do the concrete under the shipping containers except at the corners, just make sure critters can't get under them for living.
 
40x30 pad and you're going to put two 40' containers on it and have a 40x13 hallway down the middle? Or are you putting the containers next to, for a 40x30 shop in a 40x47 footprint? If you're doing the latter, you'll want footings for the containers. Or a much bigger slab than you're thinking. And I doubt it needs to be 8" thick, but a concrete enginerd I am not.
Also need to figure out end walls.
Also need to figure out door(s) in your end walls.
 
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