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Texas97

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I've got a rifle listed on guns international and a guy in California wants to buy it. The rifle is a traditional type bolt action with internal magazine.

Is there anything I need to do or know with respect to an individual selling to another individual in California? Do all sales to California have to go from an FFL in the free states? Or can I send to his FFL from an individual?
 
we can only get it from an ffl here....
The last time I looked it needed to come from your ffl also.
Don't quote me on that. I will check back inna sec
 
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sales via Private Party Transfer must follow all the rules a sale directly from a dealer must follow.

Proof of identity and age
26815.

No firearm shall be delivered:
(a) Within 10 days of the application to purchase, or, after notice by the department pursuant to Section 28220, within 10 days of the submission to the department of any correction to the application, or within 10 days of the submission to the department of any fee required pursuant to Section 28225, whichever is later.
(b) Unless unloaded and securely wrapped or unloaded and in a locked container.
(c) Unless the purchaser, transferee, or person being loaned the firearm presents clear evidence of the person’s identity and age to the dealer.
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For handguns, handgun safety certificate (unless the buyer is exempt)
26840.

No dealer may deliver a handgun unless the person receiving the handgun presents to the dealer a valid handgun safety certificate. The firearms dealer shall retain a photocopy of the handgun safety certificate as proof of compliance with this requirement.
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Interstate transfer means I have to send to a FFL regardless of state. But do I need to ship from an FFL from Texas ?

What you quoted was just the 10 day wait period on the Cali FFL end. That shouldn't affect me
 
Does the long guns prior to 1954 can be private transfer still apply in ca?

I assume your doing an over the counter sale with the intent of being legit? Then it needs to ffl.
 
total newb said:
Does the long guns prior to 1954 can be private transfer still apply in ca?

I assume your doing an over the counter sale with the intent of being legit? Then it needs to ffl.
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Of course I'm going to be legit. But other states, depending on the FFL, I can transfer individual to the FFL, there's no state law against it.

I'm trying to figure out if Cali is similar. Can I transfer individual to FFL in California?
 
The site has a 10k character limit.
I will try to cut in the next batch in the am .
That post is huge...
 
Call the recieving FFL and ask. Im not sure of the law but some out of state FFLs will only accept a firearm from another FFL.
 
Don't be a little bitch. Get his contact info, end the listing and sell it to him cash in a parking lot.

And yes, it's 100% on the buyer to figure out the legalities. The only reason NV FFLs don't just sell to CA people no fucks given (long guns only, obviously) is because it's just better for business to not draw scrutiny from a state government that already clearly doesn't care about the constitution and will probably send thugs to your jurisdiction to fuck you.
 
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Stuck said:
Call the recieving FFL and ask. Im not sure of the law but some out of state FFLs will only accept a firearm from another FFL.
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I mean, this seems like the most straightforward answer. The receiving FFL should know what they need to transfer it to the buyer
 
An 'as-applied' explanation
The words 'private', 'party' and 'transaction' all have common meanings.

But in California, the phrase "private party transaction (PPT)" has a specific meaning.

A California PPT occurs when
a California resident

goes to a CA FFL

to sell any gun - used or new is not relevant -

to another CA resident.
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Use of a CA FFL is required by law, as noted in this thread, and the CA-resident part is implemented in the DROS software.

Since a resident of a state other than California is unlikely to have CA ID, a gun from out of state is unlikely to be eligible for a CA PPT.

That means the transfer would be treated as an interstate transfer, and the FFL is able to charge whatever fee is reasonable to the business, and the Roster would apply to handgun transactions.
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Ok
Fail...
Ppt don't work.
At this point, I'd say to
try asking buyers ffl.
Good luck wading the red tide
 
Clb said:
That means the transfer would be treated as an interstate transfer,
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According to who? CA law? Sounds like a whole lot of "not my problem" for private sellers in 49/50 states...
 
Not my words in your quote, but I was grabbing the information from calguns legal forum.
So to answer your question....
The Demacommies.
 
Clb said:
Not my words in your quote, but I was grabbing the information from calguns legal forum.
So to answer your question....
The Demacommies.
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Right, but as long as the feds don't care seems like the seller would have nothing to worry about, no?
 
Just jumping through hoops while wading in the red tide.
The demacommies aint figured out how to stop a sale YET.
 
arse_sidewards said:
According to who? CA law? Sounds like a whole lot of "not my problem" for private sellers in 49/50 states...
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Tell me you know fuck all about purchase and sale of firearms, without saying you know fuck all about purchase and sale of firearms :flipoff2:
 
posford said:
Tell me you know fuck all about purchase and sale of firearms, without saying you know fuck all about purchase and sale of firearms :flipoff2:
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I thought long guns across state lines were fair game? Is that not true?


Also, what about me makes you think I try and meticulously comply with any law. :laughing:

Edit: Long guns across state lines is FFL only.
 
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arse_sidewards said:
I thought long guns across state lines were fair game? Is that not true?
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Depends on state. A lot of shops here refuse to sell to MA residents, just because we all hate you people :flipoff2:

Also, what about me makes you think I try and meticulously comply with any law. :laughing:
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You're also the dumbass try-hard that would unknowingly rat yourself out to an undercover fed just for street cred.
 
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