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I just don't think they give a fuck. They don't have any goals beyond making money and "winning" in the present. Our government basically operates like the world's most powerful street gang.
I'll agree with you. None give a fuck if they are making money. I wish I could get some of that sweet mic money.
 
I just don't think they give a fuck. They don't have any goals beyond making money and "winning" in the present. Our government basically operates like the world's most powerful street gang.
These people have more money than they could spend in 5 lifetimes. They could give a fuck less about money.

Power, control, and influence? Well, yeah...
 
Ah more money means more influence and power. So yay they give a fuck about money.
You think the Vanderbilts, morgans, and rothchilds are really concerned with gaining more fiat fun bucks? I doubt it, highly. Whats the point when you have the fed reserve chairman on speed dial and under your thumb?

So, I guess I should rephrase. There are some people, that money is just a means to an end. And once that money has served its purpose, then its not really relevant the way you or I consider relevancy. We are talking about nation buying wealth. They don't give a fuck about money like you or I do.

The ends are power, influence, and control. Inflation of the ego to god-like status.

The bilderderg group, wef, and the like are not concerned with amassing more wealth, but rather consolidation of power and control.
 
You think the Vanderbilts, morgans, and rothchilds are really concerned with gaining more fiat fun bucks? I doubt it, highly. Whats the point when you have the fed reserve chairman on speed dial and under your thumb?

So, I guess I should rephrase. There are some people, that money is just a means to an end. And once that money has served its purpose, then its not really relevant the way you or I consider relevancy. We are talking about nation buying wealth. They don't give a fuck about money like you or I do.

The ends are power, influence, and control. Inflation of the ego to god-like status.

The bilderderg group, wef, and the like are not concerned with amassing more wealth, but rather consolidation of power and control.
If you look at the big picture, outside of Ukraine, Russia, etc.. and look at Europe riots, and immigration problems, and us here with our immigration problems, etc.. and see the similarities all over the place, then yeah it becomes more clear that somebody, whoever it might be, is pulling the same strings all over the place to collapse society. The Olympics letting men beat up women, etc.. (yeah yeah not officially a man.. go fuck yourself) If you look at it from a far off view you can see patterns, and somebody is for sure pulling strings at a higher level than our government.
Argentina is heading the right way and NEVER hear about that in the news.. Venezuela, don't hear about that either.
I'm not a Trump fan, he's not someone I'd like to drink a beer with, but the fact that he is so hated by EVERYONE in government to the point that they're showing their hand by impeachments and convictions and assassination attempts, shows that the higher ups are not liking how things are going with the sleeping giant waking up.
 
These people have more money than they could spend in 5 lifetimes. They could give a fuck less about money.

Power, control, and influence? Well, yeah...
You know what wildly wealthy people want? More money. You know what gets power and influence? Money.
 
you two don't seem to truly understand what "money" actually is these days
please don't read up on it, it'll ruin your cheerful and bright outlook on life
Ah more money means more influence and power. So yay they give a fuck about money.
not in the way upgraydde is talkin bout

DEI ESG shit is 100% meant to sacrifice profits for brainwashing.
Same with the takeover of the state run youth brainwashing system.

It ain't to make life better for anyone but those who are pushing an agenda, and it is done at great monetary* cost

*call it productivity, GDP, profits, production, standard of living, it's all interchangeable
 
I love people who still debate the Civil War. The south lost and that’s all you need to know. Move on there’s plenty of new wars to discuss and over analyze.
It's when secession from the federal state's purview was made to be punishable by being forced into slavery.

How isn't that applicable in every era until overturned?
 

I wonder how Russians will react with Ukraine’s ‘invasion’??

And looking at drone pics on AP… looks like a nothing burger?? No black burnt smear or whatever. Hangar rubbles don’t look big enough to take anything more than a small plane? I’m gonna guess the ‘base’ was a decoy.

What y’all think?
 
Looks like Ukraine is preparing for Trump to take the WH and the money train coming to a close?



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Trump Devises Plan To End Russia-Ukraine Conflict​

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President-elect Donald Trump might propose an 800-mile buffer zone between Russia and Ukraine to quickly resolve the ongoing conflict.
According to three of Trump’s aides, this area would be overseen by British and European forces, but not include any American troops.
This plan would allow Russia to retain its territorial gains in Ukraine, freezing the current borders. Additionally, Ukraine would have to pledge not to join NATO for two decades.

Under these proposals, the U.S. plans to supply arms to Ukraine to deter Russia from reigniting the war, while the responsibility for funding and staffing the buffer zone would lie with European allies.

“We can do training and other support but the barrel of the gun is going to be European,” a Trump staffer said to the Wall Street Journal.
“We are not sending American men and women to uphold peace in Ukraine. And we are not paying for it. Get the Poles, Germans, British and French to do it,” the staffer added.
Britain, France, and Germany have promised to back Ukraine indefinitely, yet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is firmly against ceding any territory to Putin.

Zelensky recently remarked that making concessions to Putin is “unacceptable” for his country and “suicidal for Europe.”
 
Not seeing the logic with letting Russia keep land they invaded. The buffer zone should start at the Ukraine border and go east.

The "buffer zone" was Ukraine shelling civilians there since 2014.

It was an ethnic cleansing.

Maybe STFU, go read and get educated.
 
800 miles seems a bit extreme. Hell, that could be a small country.

Just read that the Pentagon is going to give all the money they can to Ukraine before Trump takes office. Fucking worms.
 
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