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grumpy356 said:
And haven't won an engagement since WWII, when we dropped 2 atomic bombs, KILLING EVERYONE AND THEN LEAVING, not occupying or nation building.
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We won many engagements. We never concluded ww2, amd we did occupy Japan and Germany and italy through today :homer:

Didn't occupy China, Russia, Korea though and continued the fight
 
Provience said:
Yes.

War is politics in action. The draft is the biggest issue, the volunteer aspect is required. That such cooersion is separate from the concept of war. If you can't fund or staff a war organically and must resort to collectivism to force the issue, it becomes a concern. An organic war is still a war and highly rewards meritocracy and individualism.

They could have different morals, different resources, or any other such cause as drives conflict and merits resolution
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ok, brb stealing all the shit you left at your place since it's right proper and just
 
[486] said:
ok, brb stealing all the shit you left at your place since it's right proper and just
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There is nothing stopping you or anybody else except their own life choices from doing just that.

I personally don't like door locks and don't use them, even though I live in the middle of town. I've had people take/attempt to take shut from my unlocked vehicles before. Figure it's mostly kids.


Flip side, there is nothing stopping me from returning the favor. As it escalates and as I can convince others to join me/you it may well turn into a war.
 
Provience said:
As it escalates and as I can convince others to join me/you it may well turn into a war.
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yup
and what greater expression of individual intent than killing each other over shit that we never particularly cared about anyways?
 
[486] said:
yup
and what greater expression of individual intent than killing each other over shit that we never particularly cared about anyways?
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If we didn't particularly care, we probably wouldn't be killing each other :flipoff2:

If I ever get consumed and no longer feel it is worth it to me, I'll get out of the making people dead business. Having that choice is what makes it less of a collectivist expression. I'm free to leave. That's the key

Collectivism forces your compliance and doesn't encourage the notion of freedom to drop out. You must participate, you must consider all others above yourself, you must remain and not disrupt.

If I care or don't care why I am killing somebody, it makes little difference
 
grumpy356 said:
And haven't won an engagement since WWII, when we dropped 2 atomic bombs, KILLING EVERYONE AND THEN LEAVING, not occupying or nation building.
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What the fuck are you talking about? There are at least 23 U.S. military bases in Japan. I’ve been to 5 or 6 of them probably.
 
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Aisin said:
What the fuck are you talking about? There are at least 23 U.S. military bases in Japan. I’ve been to 5 or 6 of them probably.
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Yeah…. We established them over a decade later.

And for fuck sake… we have a base in CUBA. Having a base or multiple bases isn’t what we are talking about.
 
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grumpy356 said:
Yeah…. We established them over a decade later.

And for fuck sake… we have a base in CUBA. Having a base or multiple bases isn’t what we are talking about.
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Yes I realize that. You said that we left and didn’t nation build. Neither is correct. We have also given them close to $200,000,000 a year since we bombed them. I have several friends that worked at Guantanamo. :usa:
 
ckupq said:
Dude you should totally go.

You should go to the feds front yard.
Then you should attend an event attended by feds and probably put on by feds.
Then you should follow the totally not feds group of attendees and do whatever they do blindly.
Profit?
Then you should go home and tell everyone that it wasn't you and you just got caught up in the moment on a platform the feds are looking at too.
Then you should get mad for walking into a fed trap, but not at yourself because you're too stupid to see it, but at the feds for laying the trap so well.
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It will absolutely be heavily attended by feds. It’s also probably not put together by feds. At least, there are a bunch of Liberty-minded people that will be running it. Bret Weinstein, Tucker Carlson, Dave Smith, etc.

I imagine people will be on pins and needles as far as planted agent provocateurs. And yep, you’d move up some government lists by attending.

Shitting on people that are willing to take that risk is very odd, though. And self-policing like that is exactly the point of the J6 prosecution.
 
grumpy356 said:
You are confusing war for nation building.

We would 100% be justified in leveling Saudi Arabia after 9-11.
The part that the US absolutely SUCKS at is.. You kill them..AND THEN YOU LEAVE.
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I’m saying that we fuck up every single conflict we get involved in. So, yep, I’m a peacenik, if that means only act defensively, because our entire modern history is full of useless war.
 
grumpy356 said:
The part that the US absolutely SUCKS at is.. You kill them..AND THEN YOU LEAVE.
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or you actually enslave them properly

with you know, income tax fiat currency mandated youth brainwashing, etc
oh huh maybe that's why the borders are open now
easier to lord over subjects who are local than those who are distant
 
grumpy356 said:
Yeah…. We established them over a decade later.

And for fuck sake… we have a base in CUBA. Having a base or multiple bases isn’t what we are talking about.
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We flexed into Korea from japan....and invested a significant amount into nation building Japan and Germany

Having multiple bases is what we are talking about. However, we could stay a whole bunch harder Rome or Spanish style
 
[486] said:
or you actually enslave them properly

with you know, income tax fiat currency mandated youth brainwashing, etc
oh huh maybe that's why the borders are open now
easier to lord over subjects who are local than those who are distant
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Breed, enslave, distract is the only way to pacify :flipoff2:
 
Gbkeith said:
I thought MacArthur occupied Japan for all intents and purposes.
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yeah didn't "we" do a bunch of rebuilding shit there, iirc mostly to make them into a protectorate or whatever flowery language you wanna use for 'dependent hanger-on'
 
OHV Wildcat said:
I’m saying that we fuck up every single conflict we get involved in. So, yep, I’m a peacenik, if that means only act defensively, because our entire modern history is full of useless war.
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I'm also fine with that. If we aren't prepared to destroy and occupy a place, we should probably avoid it
 
OHV Wildcat said:
It will absolutely be heavily attended by feds. It’s also probably not put together by feds. At least, there are a bunch of Liberty-minded people that will be running it. Bret Weinstein, Tucker Carlson, Dave Smith, etc.

I imagine people will be on pins and needles as far as planted agent provocateurs. And yep, you’d move up some government lists by attending.

Shitting on people that are willing to take that risk is very odd, though. And self-policing like that is exactly the point of the J6 prosecution.
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If I go… I’d be alone!!!!!
Probably maki g me look like the fed!!!!!
 
Well…. looks like this might happen…. My sister (she works for an airline) has me on the available seat list…..
If goes as planned I’ll be at the airport tomorrow at this time!!!!

:smokin::smokin::smokin:
 
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