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Will12785

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Anybody ever heard of Purism? I think I'm going to order the Librem 5 to replace my android. Seems like a decent alternative to the Google bloatware and tracking. Plus it's made in the USA which I like. I'll probably get the laptop at some point too.

Here's some detail.

Purism– Librem 5 USA

Introducing the – Librem 5 USA by Purism
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Will12785 said:
Anybody ever heard of Purism? I think I'm going to order the Librem 5 to replace my android. Seems like a decent alternative to the Google bloatware and tracking. Plus it's made in the USA which I like. I'll probably get the laptop at some point too.

Here's some detail.

Purism– Librem 5 USA

Introducing the – Librem 5 USA by Purism
puri.sm puri.sm
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Want one but the $2000 price tag made me pick up a used crapple. And a year on shipping for the one with the chyna chip in it for a grand less.

Might look at one in the next few years to see if prices and or shipping lead times have changed.
 
Will12785 said:
Anybody ever heard of Purism? I think I'm going to order the Librem 5 to replace my android. Seems like a decent alternative to the Google bloatware and tracking. Plus it's made in the USA which I like. I'll probably get the laptop at some point too.

Here's some detail.

Purism– Librem 5 USA

Introducing the – Librem 5 USA by Purism
puri.sm puri.sm
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starts at $2k, hmm hard pass
 
And that's why all the electronic manufacturing offshoring had happened. It simply makes things a lot cheaper when you can pay slave wages, basically treat employees like slaves, and have minimal if any labor laws, environmental restrictions, etc.
 
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2 problems for me.

1. Storage is pathetic. I have a 128gb phone now with a 256gb card in it just for music.

2. I want to use gps while the WiFi and cell is off. Why they coupled the gps to all 3 is beyond me.

I leave the GPS on while I'm in airplane mode and I can still see where I'm at in onx or avenza, with a 3-4 day battery life.



What are they doing for apps? Looks like only Linux works?

That cuts out about 99% of the reason I have a phone. Calling and texting is minimal, I want the GPS, ballistic calculator, and music more than anything.
 
Chevy_man said:
2 problems for me.

1. Storage is pathetic. I have a 128gb phone now with a 256gb card in it just for music.

2. I want to use gps while the WiFi and cell is off. Why they coupled the gps to all 3 is beyond me.

I leave the GPS on while I'm in airplane mode and I can still see where I'm at in onx or avenza, with a 3-4 day battery life.



What are they doing for apps? Looks like only Linux works?

That cuts out about 99% of the reason I have a phone. Calling and texting is minimal, I want the GPS, ballistic calculator, and music more than anything.
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It has expandable memory, I'm currently using 15 gigs on my current phone.

I do the same with my phone but I'd rather not be tracked.

The only apps on my phone are Spotify and and snapchat. I use the web browser for everything.
 
LOL no.

Get a Google Pixel phone, turn off what you don't like for permissions and settings, remove the apps you don't like, and save $1k or more to have a much better device.

Or pay cash for a burner prepaid dumb phone every month if you truly want privacy. Because any phone that's connected to a mainstream network with an account under your name is trackable.
 
:laughing: Read the title, heres what my mind thought....



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Will12785 said:
It has expandable memory, I'm currently using 15 gigs on my current phone.

I do the same with my phone but I'd rather not be tracked.

The only apps on my phone are Spotify and and snapchat. I use the web browser for everything.
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Web browsers don't work offline:flipoff2:

You have snap-chat. That's like shoving a GPS up your ass :lmao:
 
Yotota said:
LOL no.

Get a Google Pixel phone, turn off what you don't like for permissions and settings, remove the apps you don't like, and save $1k or more to have a much better device.

Or pay cash for a burner prepaid dumb phone every month if you truly want privacy. Because any phone that's connected to a mainstream network with an account under your name is trackable.
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Can you still get a prepaid activation without a legit bank card of sorts credit or otherwise?
Fullsize80cherokee said:
I like made in the us but that looks like a bigger piece of shit than the Chinese made stuff.
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i have talked to a few guys who run them. They like them a lot, but a Linux phone obviously isn’t a good EDC phone for the average person who needs every single app in the world.
 
Will12785 said:
It has expandable memory, I'm currently using 15 gigs on my current phone.

I do the same with my phone but I'd rather not be tracked.

The only apps on my phone are Spotify and and snapchat.
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Any apps on your phone means you are tracked. I don't think you can download any app what so ever without giving them full access to everything on your phone. Contacts, pics, location, camera, mic, etc. If you purchase an app, you are paying them for it. Plus giving them access to everything about your life and your body if you have any "health" apps on your phone.


When it got to where I had had to give them access to my contacts, camera and shit years ago I quit even using the play store. They don't need that shit for me to play a game, they want it. So for me I'd buy one in a heartbeat if could ever bring myself to spend 2k on a phone. Privacy costs a lot of money these days.
 
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Yotota said:
LOL no.

Get a Google Pixel phone, turn off what you don't like for permissions and settings, remove the apps you don't like, and save $1k or more to have a much better device.

Or pay cash for a burner prepaid dumb phone every month if you truly want privacy. Because any phone that's connected to a mainstream network with an account under your name is trackable.
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Your solution to trying to escape from the biggest surveillance company to ever exist, a company with more data collected than any other surveillance company and all government entities combined, a company that helped china develop ESG, is to buy on of their phones?
 
It's crazy how much everyone can't stand China and government surveillance, and here I am doing what I can to not support it and you all start bashing.
 
Will12785 said:
It's crazy how much everyone can't stand China and government surveillance, and here I am doing what I can to not support it and you all start bashing.
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You realize you're being tracked right now, right? Even if you get a new burner everyday, if you're on the NSA shit list I bet they could track and listen to you like they were in your pocket.

Live life and have a phone you won't hate.
:flipoff2:

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Will12785 said:
It's crazy how much everyone can't stand China and government surveillance, and here I am doing what I can to not support it and you all start bashing.
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We're just saying the phone sucks, it costs 10x what it should, and it has serious limitations over normal smart phones.


Unless you're a regular Linux user it's going to be painful.:confused:
 
I've been using a de-googled Pixel 6a phone with Graphene OS for a little over a month so far and really like it. I wish the 6a had a little more storage but with my trade in of a tired Note 9 I only paid $180 plus taxes. It works very well on T-Mobile. Battery life can easily go 3 days when I'm not using it much. So far my main issue has been trying to use a Lime scooter rental apk and I have heard there can be issues with Uber; it all depends on how far you stray away from Google services.

2 popular ways to de-google phones are: Calyx OS and Graphene OS. Phone must have an unlocked bootloader. Unfortunately that means google Pixels phones are the most common.

Both of these options can be installed by a NEWB from the web using a Windows PC very easily.

grapheneos.org

GrapheneOS: the private and secure mobile OS

GrapheneOS is a security and privacy focused mobile OS with Android app compatibility.
grapheneos.org grapheneos.org

CalyxOS

calyxos.org calyxos.org

I have no connection with this guy but he has a whole YT channel on privacy and many privacy products. He even offers his version of a privacy phone based on Android for a very reasonable price.


brax.me

Rob Braxman

Internet Privacy Evangelist, Cybersecurity Expert, Software Architect, and Jazz Pianist
brax.me brax.me

scroll down to see phone and he even offers services to flash some google phones.

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RusM said:
You realize you're being tracked right now, right? Even if you get a new burner everyday, if you're on the NSA shit list I bet they could track and listen to you like they were in your pocket.

Live life and have a phone you won't hate.
:flipoff2:

slnt.com

Faraday Phone Sleeves - SLNT®

Shop Faraday phone bags & protect your phone inside and out. Don't let your phone get cracked, hacked or tracked ever again, go off the grid.
slnt.com slnt.com
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Yes I am aware I'm being tracked. Doesn't mean I can't make it more difficult to do so.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
Can you still get a prepaid activation without a legit bank card of sorts credit or otherwise?
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Put on a wig and fake mustache. Drive to your nearest 7-11 in a car without GPS or OnStar or any location service. Don't bring any other electronic devices with you that could co-locate you to this transaction. Park a few blocks away and walk in. Pay cash for a prepaid phone and SIM. Walk out and activate the phone.

Now here is the dilemma... Once you bring the phone home a few times, a pattern will be established that this device lives at your address and it will be linked to your name as the resident. So you should probably store it off-site somewhere anonymous and random as to not develop a pattern.

So yeah, one could have a completely anonymous phone if they really cared to.
 
Will12785 said:
Your solution to trying to escape from the biggest surveillance company to ever exist, a company with more data collected than any other surveillance company and all government entities combined, a company that helped china develop ESG, is to buy on of their phones?
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Your phone solution is at best a symbolic gesture, most likely utterly useless, and at worst purchasing an unproven device with unproven security and then using it on T-Mobile that is one of the worst for data security.

The only benefit of the phone is that it doesn't have all the data mining social media apps. If you don't want those, uninstall them from your current phone. You can also turn off location services and revoke all permissions for other apps. The Android source code is publicly available, as is the code for all Android apps. Security flaws are found and immediately called out online.

This whole discussion has a very simple solution: stop using the services that you don't like. Stop using Google search. Stop using any and all social media. Stop using online banking. Stop living in 2022 and revert to 1999 technology.

Or stop worrying because your data is aggregated with billions of other users data. Turn off permissions where you can. Live a normal life. Reduce social media anyway because it's unhealthy and a waste of time. Be happy.
 
Yotota said:
Your phone solution is at best a symbolic gesture, most likely utterly useless, and at worst purchasing an unproven device with unproven security and then using it on T-Mobile that is one of the worst for data security.

The only benefit of the phone is that it doesn't have all the data mining social media apps. If you don't want those, uninstall them from your current phone. You can also turn off location services and revoke all permissions for other apps. The Android source code is publicly available, as is the code for all Android apps. Security flaws are found and immediately called out online.

This whole discussion has a very simple solution: stop using the services that you don't like. Stop using Google search. Stop using any and all social media. Stop using online banking. Stop living in 2022 and revert to 1999 technology.

Or stop worrying because your data is aggregated with billions of other users data. Turn off permissions where you can. Live a normal life. Reduce social media anyway because it's unhealthy and a waste of time. Be happy.
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I don't think you get that I mean tracked online not my physical location.

I don't use Google, I don't use Facebook or any of that. This website is basically it. I don't bank online. And regardless, I can reduce what information is accessible to Google and the like and that's what I'm trying to do.
 
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