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Pop up vs hard side?

rattle_snake said:
Soft sided one suck in the wind, cold and heat. Seems I have one or more of those wherever I camp.

I like Lance products. I ran an 8' in a short bed Superduty tailgate down and towed a heavy boat (7-8k). Need a hitch extension with no slop (shims, weld, ect).

Now in a long bed, rear sway bar is key, otherwise can be sketchy as fuck. I also run isolated bags and adjustable fox 2.0s. Generator on the front bumper. over 50', over GWV :flipoff2:
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And you need good tires, a blow out is game over. I suggest minimum of 37s.
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i had the tinyest of hairline cracks on my tires before my 10hr road trip to koh this past year and i couldnt do it

had to get new tires

and then my ac compressor locked up 9hrs from home and the thought crossed my mind of how the hell would i even get this towed :homer:
 
rattle_snake said:
Soft sided one suck in the wind, cold and heat. Seems I have one or more of those wherever I camp.

I like Lance products. I ran an 8' in a short bed Superduty tailgate down and towed a heavy boat (7-8k). Need a hitch extension with no slop (shims, weld, ect).

Now in a long bed, rear sway bar is key, otherwise can be sketchy as fuck. I also run isolated bags and adjustable fox 2.0s. Generator on the front bumper. over 50', over GWV :flipoff2:
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And you need good tires, a blow out is game over. I suggest minimum of 37s.
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I don't understand the minimum of 37s? There are 33-34" tires with around 4k lb rating.

I ran that heavy elk horn on 295/75r16s at 80 psi without issues. They were 3950 ea and with a trailer I'm pretty sure I was close to 8k on the rear axle.

It was night and day going from 55 to 80 psi with the camper.
 
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rattle_snake said:
Good because it is a joke.
:lmao:
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Makes sense then :flipoff2:

rattle_snake said:
a taller tire raises COG which is bad in this case. But I must have big tires on everything, like some others on this site.
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Bigger tires do often have a higher wieght rating. Even semi's go to larger tires for higher capacity. So I wasn't sure if you were claiming that?

I get that, I basically can't put the stock tires on anything. I even just went up a size on my car trailer :homer::laughing:
 
I put bigger tires on motorcycles, quads, BBQs and other silly shit, so understood.

And yes the bigger 'footprint' (from wide or larger diameter) give more sq inches in the whole PSI concept of a tire. Big tires need less air to hold same weight.
 
Pop ups are fun and light, if your baby is a baby really think about climate control in hot weather. Sweating inside on a hot day/night if rain comes through really magnifies how your brain responds to a crying baby. We are finally at a truck based set up as kids hit 7 and 8.

Point - if you have a baby and it gets hot where you camp make AC a priority for a few years
 
fl0w3n said:
I’m also thinking a Granby isn’t ideal, while I’d love the space, I don’t want to deal with sketchy trailer extension and
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Agreed, I wouldn't put a Grandby in a shortbed if you plan on pulling anything with the camper on. If you never plan on pulling a trailer with the camper on, then go for it. Besides the obvious bus load of nun killing hitch extension you'd need. another annoying thing about it would be figuring out steps, not difficult, but would need a flip down set or something.

Sounds like you're on the hunt for a Hawk model.
 
BustedCrank said:
Agreed, I wouldn't put a Grandby in a shortbed if you plan on pulling anything with the camper on. If you never plan on pulling a trailer with the camper on, then go for it. Besides the obvious bus load of nun killing hitch extension you'd need. another annoying thing about it would be figuring out steps, not difficult, but would need a flip down set or something.

Sounds like you're on the hunt for a Hawk model.
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My hitch extension has been surprisingly solid :laughing:

I run some extra chains and check for cracks Everytime tho

And I make sure the tongue weight on my trailer is only 500-700lbs, whatever the extension says it can be

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Swayzeexpress said:
Pop ups are fun and light, if your baby is a baby really think about climate control in hot weather. Sweating inside on a hot day/night if rain comes through really magnifies how your brain responds to a crying baby. We are finally at a truck based set up as kids hit 7 and 8.

Point - if you have a baby and it gets hot where you camp make AC a priority for a few years
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baby is 9 mo now and we’ve done 3 trips so far. First trip we rented a trailer for Yosemite because those sites are so close together and I didn’t want to be the asshole with a crying baby at 3am in a tent waking up the whole site, plus it was on the colder side so like you said weather was a concern. That went great and kind of started the conversation, then the following two times was tent camping and one of the weekends it was 95+ and that was brutal. Baby is a champ though and did well considering the heat, but really made a camper sound nice.

A second will eventually be here and I’m skeptical of 4 of us + 80lb dog fitting in a short bed pop up… but won’t know till you try.

I’m considering maybe a shell model or going back on my thoughts and renovating one and ditching the kitchen other than the fridge. Making it primarily sleeping and storage, since we are always cooking outside anyways.
 
fl0w3n said:
baby is 9 mo now and we’ve done 3 trips so far. First trip we rented a trailer for Yosemite because those sites are so close together and I didn’t want to be the asshole with a crying baby at 3am in a tent waking up the whole site, plus it was on the colder side so like you said weather was a concern. That went great and kind of started the conversation, then the following two times was tent camping and one of the weekends it was 95+ and that was brutal. Baby is a champ though and did well considering the heat, but really made a camper sound nice.

A second will eventually be here and I’m skeptical of 4 of us + 80lb dog fitting in a short bed pop up… but won’t know till you try.

I’m considering maybe a shell model or going back on my thoughts and renovating one and ditching the kitchen other than the fridge. Making it primarily sleeping and storage, since we are always cooking outside anyways.
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I'm happy with my pop up on a 5.5 bed, has a king size up top and empty inside. 2 fans help a ton too. If all 4 of us and dogs are going I drag a 4x6 enclosed trailer with an awning and all our crap. If just the boy and I everything gets loaded inside and we drag the jon boat sometimes.
 
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