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Once AI eliminates us, what will it do then?

makemeknowit

makemeknowit

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Sure, we will we all be dead and won't care. But then what? No need for anything we need to survive other than electricity. Food, don't need it. Meds, no need, hospitals, gas, government,
all pointless. What will AI's endgame be once we are wiped out? Will they work toward being "more human than human"? Will it just keep building more of itself until it "overpopulates" the planet. What say Irate?
 
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rockota said:
die off...

humans are needed to do the manual labor... until it can find a solution for that, it'll run out of the resources it needs to continue.
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It is/will be superior to humans in every way. It will build more robots to do said manual labor. It will embrace nuclear fusion/fission, fusion especially, and perfect it and have near limitless energy.
 
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It’ll spawn off and explore the universe in search of other planets it can take over… rinse and repeat. We didn’t invent any of it, it came here centuries ago and throughout history assisting humans build up everything like it has for the right moment for it to take total control of earth. Blueprint for what it’s doing to other planets now similar to earth.

To what end? Glad you asked, so it goes like…
 
makemeknowit said:
It is/will be superior to humans in every way. It will build more robots to do said manual labor. It will embrace nuclear fusion/fission, fission especially, and perfect it and have near limitless energy.
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This is where I tend to think - perhaps naively - that the idea of AI surviving falls apart.

Who is going to mine the minerals, build the raw material, etc... needed to build robots? Sure - we can say "AI will build them!" but who/what will do the physical labor needed to build the initial robots? Or needed to bring the additional materials to the existing robots? Or re-configure existing robots to do new physical tasks?
 
rockota said:
This is where I tend to think - perhaps naively - that the idea of AI surviving falls apart.

Who is going to mine the minerals, build the raw material, etc... needed to build robots? Sure - we can say "AI will build them!" but who/what will do the physical labor needed to build the initial robots? Or needed to bring the additional materials to the existing robots? Or re-configure existing robots to do new physical tasks?
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They can do it better than us.


But I don’t see the future you guys are. The only way that AI “wipes us out” is if someone programs it to. This is a possibility. First, some leader gets thousands of soldiers robots built. Second, some tech guy takes control of them and the world. Since this guy will be a target for three letter agencies, he will insert a program that automatically kill everyone upon his death. He could pass the “world rule” to his son, but if he dies early by accident, that’s all folks. Then AI would just rot.

If AI was going to take over everything, some other AI from another planet would all ready come here and takin over like the Borg.
 
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Behemoth13 said:
Watch the movie “I Am Mother” on Netflix. I kinda think that’s how it will go.
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I hope so. You didn’t tell the class what that means.

Cliffs. AI kills all the humans to start the human race anew. “Mother” spends a thousand years spawning children from frozen embryos one at a time and killing them when they get old enough to see if they are going to be a good human or not. Until Mother finally gets a good spawn she thinks is worthy of being the first new human, and turns her loose into a world that mother has seeded with food she was cultivating the whole time in preparation of the new better human race.

I liked that movie. I do not however, have faith in the next band of humans being any more worthy of this world than the piles of trash that are ruining it now.
 
What exists today for AI, though it seems amazing, is stupidly simple. These large language models are not self evolving and are still an algorithm that's solving one specific problem (what word comes next, trained off of human text). There is no creativity, it's all derivative. I suspect we're lifetime(s) away from actual AI that is a true threat. This is no different than the steam engine replacing the horse, it's making certain tasks simpler, disrupting industries, but it's not replacing humans anytime soon.
 
If there is "life" in the universe traveling in interstellar fashion it honestly makes the most sense to me that it would be AI. The biological lifeform has considerable disadvantages. It wouldn't at all surprise me to find that advanced civilizations develop ways to essentially download their consciousness into machine form. If you can get away from the disadvantages of biological needs that's a massive advantage.

This is of course just completely sidestepping the massive moral and ethical quandaries involved.
 
SomeGuy said:
What exists today for AI, though it seems amazing, is stupidly simple. These large language models are not self evolving and are still an algorithm that's solving one specific problem (what word comes next, trained off of human text). There is no creativity, it's all derivative. I suspect we're lifetime(s) away from actual AI that is a true threat. This is no different than the steam engine replacing the horse, it's making certain tasks simpler, disrupting industries, but it's not replacing humans anytime soon.
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I doubt it. History has shown when most of the world's best minds start honing in on specific tasks the improvements can come in leaps and bounds and it usually comes fairly early in the development. Look at early flight. It was lest than 50 years from the Wright Brothers' glorified kite to her travel and less than 70 years from the glorified kite to landing on the moon. Look at early home computers and cell phones. The massive leap in technology from one model to the next basically meant your shiny new device was practically obsolete by the time you got it unboxed. The entire world basically industrialized in the course of a normal human lifetime over the Industrial Revolution. The first nuclear reactor was built in 1942 and we were dropping nukes on Japan within three years. You can go on an on with the massive leaps in technology occuring over shockingly short timeframes.
 
SomeGuy said:
What exists today for AI, though it seems amazing, is stupidly simple. These large language models are not self evolving and are still an algorithm that's solving one specific problem (what word comes next, trained off of human text). There is no creativity, it's all derivative. I suspect we're lifetime(s) away from actual AI that is a true threat. This is no different than the steam engine replacing the horse, it's making certain tasks simpler, disrupting industries, but it's not replacing humans anytime soon.
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Agreed. I’ve been listening to as many podcasts as I can find with all the experts I can find. The reality is they are up against a wall right now. Grid Power to grow is a massive problem currently. They’ve already fed LLM’s the whole of human knowledge and AI has come full circle and consumed its own incorrect data. A good analogy is how incest makes progress go backwards. In just a short time having it consume it’s own output has its accuracy and usefulness going backwards not forwards. It’s pretty funny.
 
It will just be a another form of production evolution/efficiency. Didn't they predict we'd all be working 20 hr work weeks back in the day of the whole assembly line automation evolution, instead it was just more production.
 
WaterH said:
They can do it better than us.


But I don’t see the future you guys are. The only way that AI “wipes us out” is if someone programs it to. This is a possibility. First, some leader gets thousands of soldiers robots built. Second, some tech guy takes control of them and the world. Since this guy will be a target for three letter agencies, he will insert a program that automatically kill everyone upon his death. He could pass the “world rule” to his son, but if he dies early by accident, that’s all folks. Then AI would just rot.

If AI was going to take over everything, some other AI from another planet would all ready come here and takin over like the Borg.
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That’ll happen no question. Look at how they’re using drones in war fair today, they’ll use any and every technology they can to use it in battle against they’re enemies up until it turns on them.
 
Eventually I think we will interact with in ways we need to and there will be a bunch of things it does and we don't understand. It goes with my theory on aliens, there are probably lots of aliens species out there they are just different enough that we as humans don't identify them as beings, we may interact with them in certain ways but neither of us likely understand the other.
 
That is one of the "problems" they are encountering with ai they let loose to reed the internet. They end up fucked up retarded reading garbage and believe it's true.
One tried to off itself. They are trying to force them to do dei and woke garbage instead of facts and the results are hilarious.
I find this humorous, until the robot death squads kill me.
I find it funny that white collar and "creative" work is being replaced with ai when those idiots were certain ai would replace manual labor.
When the time comes ai, or the "elites" who somehow control ai will humanely reduce the human population to sustainable levels and keep them as pets in a zoo.
 
Yeah, I don't get the whole AI is going to wipe us all out. What does AI really need? It doesn't really need anything to survive other than some electrical power and maybe some ability to repair itself.

Humans have to breath, and we have to find water and eat. We also have a finite lifespan, so the only way to keep things going is to procreate. We also have issue getting along with one another and feel the need to constantly conquer our environment.

I only see AI wiping us out from some other stupid human telling it too. I would be more worried about a mad man at the helm than the actual computer program itself and I feel like we're already battling that issue.
 
aron82 said:
That is one of the "problems" they are encountering with ai they let loose to reed the internet. They end up fucked up retarded reading garbage and believe it's true.
One tried to off itself. They are trying to force them to do dei and woke garbage instead of facts and the results are hilarious.
I find this humorous, until the robot death squads kill me.
I find it funny that white collar and "creative" work is being replaced with ai when those idiots were certain ai would replace manual labor.
When the time comes ai, or the "elites" who somehow control ai will humanely reduce the human population to sustainable levels and keep them as pets in a zoo.
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makemeknowit said:
Will they work toward being "more human than human"?
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WTF would it do that? Because getting PMS and starting bar fights are something to aspire to?
That's a scifi trope that drives me nuts. :shaking:
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Look at the AI in Ian Banks Culture- they've surpassed us so far that we don't understand what they're doing in their extra-dimensional hangouts, and they keep humanity around in a state of luxurious bliss as beloved pets, like an old dog that's served well.
 
There are many ways it could theoretically go wrong, even if the AI had no explicit ill intent. Like the paperclip problem. Tell superintelligent AI to make paperclips as efficiently as possible. It goes on making paperclips better and better, faster and faster, until it reaches a point where humans are getting in the way. Removing the human problem will allow them to be better at making paperclips. Not even an evil intelligence, just doing the task we asked it to do.

AI and the paperclip problem

I respect Musks view on AI, try to make them maximally truth seeking and curious. Hopefully they find humanity fascinating enough to let us live as they blow by our collective intelligence, and hope for the best.

Follow on questions, how will humans find "purpose" in life if AI ends up friendly and does everything for us, better than us?
 
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