Old school tech: power steering hose archive?

[YotaAtieToo]

Trying to find an off the shelf hose for my 12 valve conversion. Both the pump and booster use 16x1.5 inverted flare male.

I'm thinking something out there had to have came with this hose, just no idea how to look it up. One challenge is that there is only ~1" between the pump and motor mount so one side needs to be a tight 90.



The Ford pump used 16x1.5 also, but slightly different type of fitting I'm not familiar with.

I'm tempted the crank it in there and see if it leaks, but

Last resort is - 6 jic adapters and just go to basic hydraulic hoses that can be had anywhere. Again I'd need a tight 90, I thought I had found the adapter I needed, but didn't save it

 

[HYDRODYNAMIC]

FIRST resort is - 6 jic adapters and just go to basic hydraulic hoses that can be had anywhere.

FIFY

 

[YotaAtieToo]

FIFY

I know

I was hoping for someone to come in and say something like "oh ya, 93 dodge Dakota is inverted flare on both sides"

Found the 90

16mm O-Ring to -6 Power Steering 90 Degree Fitting With O-Ring & Nut

16mm O-Ring to -6 90 degree fitting. With 40880-1 nut and o-ring installed.

leepowersteering.com

$60!

Since I have you attention, would I be retarded to use the end in the 2nd picture in the Cummins pump? Seems like a lot of guys are doing that in these conversions.

What about using this fitting?

9069-06-16 | #6 MALE JIC X 16MM MALE METRIC COMES WITH WASHER & O-RING 90 DEGREE ELBOW | 9069-6-16 | Trausch Dynamics

1502309 - 9069-06-16 - 9069-06-16 | #6 MALE JIC X 16MM MALE METRIC COMES WITH WASHER & O-RING 90 DEGREE ELBOW | 9069-6-16

www.hydraulicstore.com

 

[Twankie]

One of your pictures is definitely not an inverted flare.

Can you swap the fittings in the power steering pumps?

 

[AK_F250]

Can you remove the female fitting and have someone spin up an adapter to put a street elbow on there? Or possibly use those threads directly in the box? I have no idea what's behind it so probably talking out of my ass.

 

[total newb]

Can you swap the fittings in the power steering pumps?

Yes, there are 3 sag p-pump fittings, inverted, oring, -6 sae(not jic/an)

I bought "pre bent/formed" blank end from parker for exactly this situation. I can do what i need to then have a hydro hose crimped on once im ready.

Hit me up tommorrow and i can post pics.

 

[YotaAtieToo]

One of your pictures is definitely not an inverted flare.

I didn't think it was either, the parts store guy said it was though and Google backed him up. There seems to be a lot of inconsistency in what that type of fitting is actually called. I'm referring to the last picture with the o ring on the end.

I thought this was inverted flare.

Can you swap the fittings in the power steering pumps?

I actually thought of that, after I posted this and was looking at the pics.

Anyone know the term for the type of fitting in the 2nd Pic? With the 90* its also 16x1.5 threads.

 

[total newb]

Looks like a bubble flare. Basicaly the first step of a double invert and for some reason they ran with it.

 

[YotaAtieToo]

Well after looking closer. The Ford hydroboost is NOT 16mm, looks like 11/16. So I'm either looking for an adapter for the saginaw pump to the wierd Ford fitting or just go jic. The stupid 90 costing more than the hose is bothering me though

Any reason this style won't work? I actually kinda like it better

7205-06-16X1.5-NWO-FG-OHI : OHI Adapter, 0.375 (3/8") Male JIC - 16X1.5" Male Metric Adjustable ORB 90-Degree Elbow Forged

This is the room I have

 

[total newb]

Oring fitting

Inverted flare

Sae -6 (not jic or -an)

-6an fitting vrs -6sae

 

[total newb]

-8 blanks

-6 blanks

 

[YotaAtieToo]

So I could probably use this and maybe fit a sweep 90 with some clearanceing to the motor mount.

SF23 - Flow Control Fitting with -6AN for P-Pump

Flow Control Fitting with -6AN for Saginaw "P" Pump 0.160" Orifice Size

www.pscmotorsports.com

 

[total newb]

That was gona be my next sug. Im sure krc/psc/agr have a -6an you could buy

 

[YotaAtieToo]

So it seems like the pump side adapter is actually turning out to be easier to find than the hydroboost side

It's the same style fitting, but 11/16 which seems to be really uncommon in that o ring style.

 

[total newb]

Hit me up tomorrow night and ill get you some goon pn# from earls.

 

[Bebop]

So it seems like the pump side adapter is actually turning out to be easier to find than the hydroboost side

It's the same style fitting, but 11/16 which seems to be really uncommon in that o ring style.

Hydratech Braking Systems :: Hose, Fittings and Adapter Listings

Hydratech Braking Systems :: Hose, Fittings and Adapter Listings

www.hydratechbraking.com

 

[YotaAtieToo]

Hydratech Braking Systems :: Hose, Fittings and Adapter Listings

Hydratech Braking Systems :: Hose, Fittings and Adapter Listings

www.hydratechbraking.com

Niether of the fittings I need are listed there.

I did have a duh moment today. I can just tap the stock pump adapter for 3/8 npt. And use a $3 fitting instead of $60

I don't want to tap the hydroboost though, so I still would like to find an adapter for that.

3/8 npt vs 16mm

Well I found that Brakequip makes the 11/16 adapter.

P# 7mbt-6mj

Ordered that and the 3/8npt x - 6 90 from this place.

Home page

Shipping was $2 unlile another place I found that was $11 for the adapter, but $38 to ship that website is about useless if you don't have p#'s though.

The annoying thing about hydraulic fittings is that there is too many different names for the same thing.