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doesn't need to be boiling, just needs to be not very windy and something nice and gassy
 

Biden to finally visit East Palestine train derailment site – a full year later​

January 31, 2024

President Joe Biden is finally planning to show his face in East Palestine a full year after the trail derailment that altered life for residents in the Ohio community.

The White House announced the president’s plan to mark the one-year anniversary of the catastrophic toxic chemical spill resulting from a Norfolk Southern train going off the tracks. Though the accident occurred on February 3, 2023, Biden has never once made a trip to the area to speak with residents or assess the damage from the disaster.




Instead of a personal trip to the area, Biden sent Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg who showed up nearly three weeks after the disaster to grandstand for the media.

The administration also rolled out the obligatory studies and funds in the aftermath.

“Biden last year ordered his Federal Emergency Management Agency to appoint a coordinator to oversee East Palestine’s long-term recovery efforts. He’s also tasked the Environmental Protection Agency with evaluating whether Norfolk Southern has followed through on its commitment to address any lingering threats to the town generated by the derailment. And the Transportation Department has pumped millions into rail safety grants and additional inspections,” Politico reported.





The president was ripped for staying away as former President Donald Trump, who said the administration had “abandoned” the community, made a much-appreciated trip there, handing out water to residents and doing the job Biden should have.




“You are not forgotten. We stand with you. We pray for you. And we will stand with you and your fight to help ensure the accountability that you deserve,” Trump told residents at the time. “The community has shown the tough and resilient heart of America. And that’s what it is. This is really America right here. We’re standing in America.”


Trump took to Truth Social on Wednesday to predict Biden will not be receiving a “warm welcome” in East Palestine.

“With the World blowing up around us, with the Middle East on FIRE, Biden has finally decided to visit East Palestine, Ohio, a year late, and only to develop some political credibility because EVERYTHING else he has done has been such a DISASTER,” he wrote. “I know those great people, I was there when it counted, and his reception won’t be a warm one. Worst President in History!”







When asked as recently as September why he had not personally made the trip to the Ohio town, Biden told reporters that he didn’t have “the occasion to go to East Palestine.”

White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters earlier this month, “The president will visit when it’s most helpful to the community.”

East Palestine Mayor Trent Conaway told Fox News that in “my personal opinion the best time for him to come would be February of 2025 when he is on his book tour.”

“The President is always welcome to our town,” Conaway said, adding, “That being said, I don’t know what he would do here now.”

It seems many on social media agreed.
 
Aren't there two local elections that are coming up there?
Even if there are, how does Biden going there a year later when he was a no show help anything? If I was running for election there I wouldn't want Biden anywhere near my campaign.
 
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Norfolk Southern agrees to pay $600M in settlement related to train derailment in eastern Ohio​

Story by JOSH FUNK, Associated Press
3 min read
Norfolk Southern has agreed to pay $600 million in a class-action lawsuit settlement related to a fiery train derailment in February 2023 in eastern Ohio.

The company said Tuesday that the agreement, if approved by the court, will resolve all class action claims within a 20-mile radius from the derailment and, for those residents who choose to participate, personal injury claims within a 10-mile radius from the derailment.

Norfolk Southern added that individuals and businesses will be able to use compensation from the settlement in any manner they see fit to address potential adverse impacts from the derailment, which could include healthcare needs, property restoration and compensation for any net business loss. Individuals within 10-miles of the derailment may, at their discretion, choose to receive additional compensation for any past, current, or future personal injury from the derailment.

The company said that the settlement doesn't include or constitute any admission of liability, wrongdoing, or fault.

The settlement is expected to be submitted for preliminary approval to the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Ohio later in April 2024. Payments to class members under the settlement could begin by the end of the year, subject to final court approval.

Norfolk Southern has already spent more than $1.1 billion on its response to the derailment, including more than $104 million in direct aid to East Palestine and its residents. Partly because Norfolk Southern is paying for the cleanup, President Joe Biden has never declared a disaster in East Palestine, which is a sore point for many residents. The railroad has promised to create a fund to help pay for the long-term health needs of the community, but that hasn’t happened yet.

Last week federal officials said that the aftermath of the train derailment doesn't qualify as a public health emergency because widespread health problems and ongoing chemical exposures haven't been documented.

The Environmental Protection Agency never approved that designation after the February 2023 Norfolk Southern derailment even though the disaster forced the evacuation of half the town of East Palestine and generated many fears about potential long-term health consequences of the chemicals that spilled and burned. The contamination concerns were exacerbated by the decision to blow open five tank cars filled with vinyl chloride and burn that toxic chemical three days after the derailment.

The head of the National Transportation Safety Board said recently that her agency's investigation showed that the vent and burn of the vinyl chloride was unnecessary because the company that produced that chemical was sure no dangerous chemical reaction was happening inside the tank cars. But the officials who made the decision have said they were never told that.

The NTSB's full investigation into the cause of the derailment won't be complete until June, though that agency has said that an overheating wheel bearing on one of the railcars that wasn't detected in time by a trackside sensor likely caused the crash.

The EPA has said the cleanup in East Palestine is expected to be complete sometime later this year.

Shares of Norfolk Southern Corp., based in Atlanta, fell about 1% before the opening bell Tuesday.
 
Yes.

does that come close to fixing the land and future medical bills?

Yes it does. The population has the attention span of a goldfish so by the time any of that happens nobody will be able to put the two together. “Git me my money, Fixin to get me a new TV.”
 
I wonder how many millions of gallons of "product" has been lost out of railcars over the years that has just ended up on the ground. I always see pig iron, ore pellets and shredder scrap along tracks. I can't imagine chemicals not getting dumped/spilled as haphazardly.
 
I wonder how many millions of gallons of "product" has been lost out of railcars over the years that has just ended up on the ground. I always see pig iron, ore pellets and shredder scrap along tracks. I can't imagine chemicals not getting dumped/spilled as haphazardly.
used to pick orr pellets for sling shot ammo
 
I think I heard that the 600 million is for a 20 mile radius to be split up. Wonder what that breaks down to. Guessing not much.


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does that come close to fixing the land and future medical bills?
Not even close.

The full ramifications won't be seen until 10 to 15 years down the line.

Theres still chemicals percolating out of the soil in streams surrounding the site. Streams that flow into the Ohio River basin.

That doesn't even touch all the dead farm animals and soiled crop ground in the area.

Member when all the greenies, and the president, said pipelines were an environmental disaster?
Then all the Richard riches like Billy gates invested heavily in rail roads?

Wonder what kind of wear and tear transporting millions of tons of crude via rail does? To an already strained infrastructure at that? Seems pretty fuckin negligent on part of this administration and the epa...
 
Not even close.

The full ramifications won't be seen until 10 to 15 years down the line.

Theres still chemicals percolating out of the soil in streams surrounding the site. Streams that flow into the Ohio River basin.

That doesn't even touch all the dead farm animals and soiled crop ground in the area.

Member when all the greenies, and the president, said pipelines were an environmental disaster?
Then all the Richard riches like Billy gates invested heavily in rail roads?

Wonder what kind of wear and tear transporting millions of tons of crude via rail does? To an already strained infrastructure at that? Seems pretty fuckin negligent on part of this administration and the epa...
Around here they decided not to continue transporting crude by rail, something that had been ongoing for 40yrs without an issue, and its all now going by truck. Pretty sure the accident rate for trucks is by far worse than rail, which is by far worse than pipeline. Makes sense.
 
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