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Ohio train derailment.

Seems like a lot of those trees are awfully green for the beginning of march.
don't think the pics are from the same derailment... there's vids here, no leaves on trees and not on the river.
 

Norfolk Southern Violated the Clean Water Act in East Palestine Disaster, DOJ Lawsuit Alleges​

The freight company now faces a federal lawsuit over environmental damage caused by chemicals spilled in its February train derailment in Ohio.​

By
Lauren Leffer

PublishedYesterday

Norfolk Southern is facing more fallout over the February 3 derailment of one its trains in East Palestine, Ohio. That disastrous derailment, in which multiple tanker cars carrying hazardous chemicals overturned and spilled, forced the evacuation of thousands of residents of the Ohio town, killed tens of thousands of fish, and left locals concerned over long-term health impacts.


Now, the Department of Justice, on behalf of the Environmental Protection Agency, has filed a federal lawsuit against the rail company. The complaint claims that, by spilling the toxic chemicals, Norfolk Southern violated the Clean Water Act. A portion of the vinyl chloride, a plastic precursor being carried by the train, and other hazardous materials leaked into a stream alongside the rail tracks. The controlled burn of the chemicals released additional toxic compounds that also potentially entered waterways.

So far, millions of gallons of wastewater have been removed from the site of the derailment and as part of the ongoing clean-up. Much of that contaminated water has been hauled to hazardous waste storage sites in Ohio and elsewhere, per the Associated Press. In addition to the water removal, federal and state environmental and health officials have also been overseeing continued soil, air, and water testing.

For all of those efforts, the feds want the company responsible to pay up. The suit seeks civil penalties and that Norfolk Southern cover the cost of clean-up, government response, and damage triggered by the accident.

The 1972 Clean Water Act protects waters of the Unites States from pollution. And though the exact meaning of “waters of the United States” has been a topic of a contentious back and forth over the past few decades, the federally protected status of the Ohio River isn’t really up for debate.


From the small stream adjacent to the train tracks, the new lawsuit alleges, toxins resulting from the derailment flowed downstream through a series of ever-larger tributaries to the Ohio River, ultimately contaminating the large, navigable waterway.

Already, Norfolk Southern was facing a lawsuit from the state of Ohio demanding that the freight company take financial responsibility for local clean-up costs and damage. The federal complaint adds to the ultimate cost Norfolk Southern could be forced to pay.

Norfolk Southern executives have repeatedly apologized for what happened in East Palestine, but the troubles have been ongoing for the company’s trains. Between early February and early March, at least four Norfolk Southern trains derailed. On March 9, just hours before a congressional hearing on the Ohio incident, another Norfolk Southern train derailed, this time in Alabama, highlighting just how commonplace such incidents are.

During that congressional hearing, the corporation’s CEO Alan Shaw reiterated to the assembled U.S. senators that he was “deeply sorry” for the damage wrought in East Palestine. He also said he was “determined to make this right.” However, Shaw stopped far short of agreeing to pay for community members’ subsequent medical costs, health care, or local economic damage, according to the New York Times.

The company isn’t the only institution facing criticism over the East Palestine disaster. The EPA itself has been under fire for how it responded to the derailment. Earlier this week, the agency’s watchdog Office of Inspector General launched an internal investigation into how the EPA has handled things.

The East Palestine incident, which has captured national attention thanks in part to shocking images of the aftermath, could ultimately lead to industry-wide changes. On Thursday, six U.S. senators introduced legislation that would tighten safety requirements for freight trains carrying hazardous materials.


Norfolk Southern Violated the Clean Water Act in East Palestine Disaster, DOJ Lawsuit Alleges
 

they had guy in front of the ohio senate yesterday.
Shaw said he supports Congress' efforts in railway safety legislation, spearheaded by Ohio U.S. senators and representatives, including provisions to increase inspection oversight for railways, further investment in wayside detectors and stricter standards for tanker cars, such as those that were carrying hazardous materials on Feb. 3.


However, when pressed on a two-person crew mandate for all trains, Shaw stated that there is no data to support that two-person crews help prevent derailments and that his railroad will "follow the science."

Ohio lawmakers recently passed a state transportation budget that would impose new rail safety measures on Norfolk Southern and other railroads traveling through their state, including a two-person crew mandate.

Whether they're allowed to do so, however, remains a point of debate. The Ohio Railroad Association, a trade group, has argued that several of the measures are preempted by federal law. Legislators say the General Assembly can put statewide safeguards in place to help protect constituents.
 
So another distraction/event that fell off the radar? :flipoff:
don't worry there will be additional [current thing] next week, tranny beer is getting a little stale, mexican nazi is fading from memory, and tranny school shooter is totally forgotten
 
Maybe next we'll get a transgender train derailed by a Mexican nazi putting an AR-47 on the tracks in a gun-free school zone because of climate change?
 
Hows the water doing down in OH? :confused: Anyone growing a tail yet?

We’re just fine. It’s gonna take more than a little bit of toxic chemicals to take us out. :flipoff2:

Honestly I’ve not heard about it in a while. Some news station wanted to do a bit on my buddies suspension shop because they kept working without issue. They’re less than a mile from the scene and haven’t had any of the crazy stuff happen that the internet videos were constantly talking about.
 
Unless they're trans (because minority privilege) :flipoff2:
What if they're a melanin enriched genderqueer otherkin who is simply identifying as a straight white male in order to experience enough privilege to carry out their perfectly moral (within the bounds of their moral system) genocidal desires?

Because mao and stalin weren't real genocides, trump was the actual genocidal dictator.
 
What if they're a melanin enriched genderqueer otherkin who is simply identifying as a straight white male in order to experience enough privilege to carry out their perfectly moral (within the bounds of their moral system) genocidal desires?

Because mao and stalin weren't real genocides, trump was the actual genocidal dictator.
 
Nice pay wall, care to quote for the unwashed
OMAHA, Neb. — The fire chiefs whose departments were the first on scene of February's fiery train derailment in eastern Ohio agree that firefighters need more training about hazardous chemicals, but that it would be hard for them ever to be fully prepared to deal with a disaster of this magnitude.


The National Transportation Safety Board is holding a two-day field hearing in East Palestine, Ohio, on the Feb. 3 Norfolk Southern derailment. Thursday’s proceedings are focused on the emergency response to the derailment and the crucial decision officials made three days later to release the toxic vinyl chloride from five tank cars and burn it to keep them from exploding.
That move sent a towering plume of black smoke over the town near the Ohio-Pennsylvania border and prompted the evacuation of about half of East Palestine’s 5,000 residents. Officials have defended that decision as the best option when faced with the prospect of an explosion that would have sent shrapnel into the town.

But residents have many questions about possible lingering health effects even though state and federal officials say tests show the air and water in town remains safe.
East Palestine Fire Chief Keith Drabick said there was a consensus in the command center that releasing the chemicals from the cars and burning them was the “least bad option.” But Drabick and other first responders who testified at the hearing agreed that firefighters need more training — particularly volunteer firefighters who were first on the scene after the derailment — on how to handle hazardous materials.
“I don’t think you can ever be prepared for something like this,” Drabick said.

Ohio officials said volunteer firefighters receive only 36 hours of initial training when they are certified — significantly less than the 200 hours professional firefighters receive — and that no hazardous materials training is included.

The fire chiefs said the initial response to the derailment was complicated because the radios used by the different departments don’t work with each other.
It also took some time for emergency responders to find out exactly what the train was carrying because the first firefighters on scene didn’t have access to the AskRail app that railroads developed to provide that information. The train crew that had that information was a mile away after moving the locomotive and didn’t immediately connect with first responders.

Drabick said it took about 45 minutes for his department to gather information about what was on the train.
The railroad has been digging up and removing contaminated soil and water from the derailment site. The Environmental Protection Agency and Ohio officials are overseeing the cleanup.

Norfolk Southern has committed more than $62 million to helping the town recover. The railroad has said it expects the derailment will eventually cost it nearly $400 million, although insurance will cover some of that and any other companies that are found responsible may have to contribute. The cost is expected to increase as lawsuits filed by states, the federal government and residents work their way through the courts.

The NTSB said in its preliminary report that an overheating bearing on one of the railcars likely caused the derailment, but it may take more than a year before the agency publishes its final report. The bearing started heating up miles before the derailment, according to sensors Norfolk Southern has along the tracks, but it didn’t get hot enough to trigger an alarm until just before the crash. The crew had little time to react.
Video gathered by investigators showed sparks or fire underneath one of the rail cars starting at least 26 miles before the derailment in Salem, Ohio.

The derailment, and several others since February, generated nationwide concern about railroad safety and prompted members of Congress to propose a package of reforms. Norfolk Southern’s CEO Alan Shaw was grilled at two different Senate hearings where he apologized for the derailment and promised to make things right in East Palestine.

All the Democrats on the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability sent Shaw a letter that was released Thursday morning expressing frustration that his railroad has refused to produce documents they asked for related to the way it uses trackside detectors and some of the operating decisions Norfolk Southern has made in recent years to slash its workforce and reduce costs.
The railroad has followed industry practice by running fewer but longer trains so it doesn’t need as many crews and locomotives. Rail unions have raised concerns that the cuts have made railroads riskier, while executives have defended their approach.

Norfolk Southern’s lawyers told the congressional committee that the railroad couldn’t release the internal documents because of the ongoing NTSB investigation. Committee Democrats have rejected that explanation and said the railroad knows that nothing about the NTSB probe should keep the committee from investigating. So far, the railroad has provided only two small batches of documents that appear to be publicly available.
“We are profoundly troubled by Norfolk Southern’s illegitimate efforts to mislead Committee Democrats and use NTSB’s investigation as a shield to impede Congressional oversight,” the 21 Democrats wrote in their letter.
 
I didn't read all that ,but I must agree that "hey all this highly toxic and dangerouse shit is spewing out of this rail car, quick, light it on fire" is the best course of action.
Isnt that esentially what they did?
 
I didn't read all that ,but I must agree that "hey all this highly toxic and dangerouse shit is spewing out of this rail car, quick, light it on fire" is the best course of action.
Isnt that esentially what they did?
iirc starting the fire early is a lot less dangerous than letting conditions for an FAE develop
 
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