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Wfoyota said:
Also, a single wheel truck with a trailer that big is going to be mad. My 2000 dually doesnt love my 40' enclosed and its not near as tall as a fifth wheel. I hooked my extended cab srw 250 to it once just to move it and there's not a chance id have got on the interstate with it.
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What's the big issue?

A 5th wheel that I size should be well within srw limits.

The enclosed has the potential to have way more pin wieght than a typical 40' 5th wheel.
 
Not sure of axle gears. I will take a look. I had it towed to its current spot with a single wheel dodge 3500. Did just fine. I will check on the BFGs. It's 12500 empty for weight.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
What's the big issue?

A 5th wheel that I size should be well within srw limits.

The enclosed has the potential to have way more pin wieght than a typical 40' 5th wheel.
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Matter of opinion I guess. When I hit the interstate I want to be rolling 75-85 mph and that is far from safe in a single wheel 25 year old truck with a 40' trailer. Dont get me wrong, it's doable but just not safe imo. The right gust of wind would make a lane change for you and worst case a tire blows out and you kill a bus load of nuns and orphans.
 
Limititations. I know its a 25yr old truck. Its getting new tires before I even begin to tow with it.
 
Wfoyota said:
Matter of opinion I guess. When I hit the interstate I want to be rolling 75-85 mph and that is far from safe in a single wheel 25 year old truck with a 40' trailer. Dont get me wrong, it's doable but just not safe imo. The right gust of wind would make a lane change for you and worst case a tire blows out and you kill a bus load of nuns and orphans.
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An extra pair of tires doesn't make 85 in a 2000s truck much better :laughing:

Wheel base has a lot to do with it also. Are you comparing a ecsb srw to a cclb DRW?
 
YotaAtieToo said:
An extra pair of tires doesn't make 85 in a 2000s truck much better :laughing:

Wheel base has a lot to do with it also. Are you comparing a ecsb srw to a cclb DRW?
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Makes a word of difference. And yes, you originally asked what the big issue was with what I said about srw and a 40' fifth wheel. We are not talking 40' flat bed gooseneck per the op, we are talking about a srw 25 year old truck pulling a 40' fifth wheel and doing it safely. Sure it would be fine for close camping trips with limited interstate millage but you are pushing your luck when talking about making large millage trips at speeds you wont get run over by others. Again, just my opinion and its fine if you or others dont see it that way.

Some helpful advice for the op, with the shit brakes on these trucks look into better pads and rotors. And check out your hydroboost lines. My dually is creeping on 220k and it is constantly in the back of my mind that a line is going to blow apart. Will be changing mine soon.
 
IMO save fro a t4/SXE turbo, don't waste any money on drop in BS or wheels, (although wheels are cheap as shit these days).

Hydra tuner with some one goods tunes. The PHP canned tunes are/were classic HPOP killers, max IPR duty cycle tunes which kill performance.

Learn the PIDS and how the truck behaves in all conditions.
Get a spare CPS for the glove box and the tools to change it.
 
Wfoyota said:
Makes a word of difference. And yes, you originally asked what the big issue was with what I said about srw and a 40' fifth wheel. We are not talking 40' flat bed gooseneck per the op, we are talking about a srw 25 year old truck pulling a 40' fifth wheel and doing it safely. Sure it would be fine for close camping trips with limited interstate millage but you are pushing your luck when talking about making large millage trips at speeds you wont get run over by others. Again, just my opinion and its fine if you or others dont see it that way.

Some helpful advice for the op, with the shit brakes on these trucks look into better pads and rotors. And check out your hydroboost lines. My dually is creeping on 220k and it is constantly in the back of my mind that a line is going to blow apart. Will be changing mine soon.
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I get what you're saying. But I don't think he's outside of what the truck is capable of by a long shot.
 
Wfoyota said:
speeds you wont get run over by others.
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This is such a horseshit argument. Lots of stuff towing/driving 65 no matter where you are in the country and I'd guarantee you that there are less accidents relating to towing at 65 than "getting run over" by someone passing you at 80+. Towing faster than 75 with a big trailer is asking for trouble since almost all trailer tires are max rated at 75mph anyway.

And yes, I don't give a flying fuck that your in TX or wherever where the speed limit is 80 and traffic allegedly always flows at 95. The majority of significant tractor trailer fleets are governed 65-70 for safety and fuel mileage.

WyoJeeper said:
I picked up a 99 Ford f350, 7.3 with a 6 speed manual for a tow rig. 285/78/16 tires. IDK what gearing. I picked it up to tow a 39 foot 5th wheel. I havent towed it yet. Weighs 13K pounds. I am a newb when it comes to towing. Question is will it handle the 39 foot trailer? Truck is bone stock.
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Not sure what could go wrong here...

-No/minimal towing experience
-Tires too wide for the stock wheel
-At/over stated tow capacity
-39' sail in the wind behind a SRW truck

Can it be done? Absolutely! Use your head, leave space in front, accept that it'll be slow going, and work up to your comfort level. Throwing HP with tuners and mods would not be very high on my list given your circumstances.

I've got a 40' enclosed that's around 17k lbs with the Tacoma in it or about 14k lbs with the race karts. 2600 lb pin weight.

-Previous tow rig was a 2000 7.3 SCSB F250 with an auto and bone stock. Power was what it was, and you just took your time. Brakes warped all the time. Loud as fuck running under a heavy load all the time. Stability was suboptimal in big winds and the biggest reason I was looking to upgrade.

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-New tow rig is a 2012 6.7 CCLB dually. Trailer is now zero event at all, literally can forget it's behind you on the highway with the cruise set no matter the wind. Never going to forget getting 17k started or stopped but it's an awesome highway cruiser. Wife even handles it fine as long as we don’t have to make many turns.

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I am confident in towing. Just first time with a 5th wheel. I dont plan to add anything but tires before this trip. And if I dont like it the 5th wheel will go away and I will buy a bumper pull toy hauler.
 
WyoJeeper said:
I am confident in towing. Just first time with a 5th wheel. I dont plan to add anything but tires before this trip. And if I dont like it the 5th wheel will go away and I will buy a bumper pull toy hauler.
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I'd keep a 5th wheel of some variety before doing a bumper pull toy hauler. More stable and better turning radius.
 
WyoJeeper said:
I am confident in towing. Just first time with a 5th wheel. I dont plan to add anything but tires before this trip. And if I dont like it the 5th wheel will go away and I will buy a bumper pull toy hauler.
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5th wheel tows way better i would not down grade to a bumper pull.
 
Snowy said:
I'd keep a 5th wheel of some variety before doing a bumper pull toy hauler. More stable and better turning radius.
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7.3_6speed said:
5th wheel tows way better i would not down grade to a bumper pull.
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Meh.

It's a wash.

I've had a goose, and I've had a bumper pull with weight distribution hitch.

I like the bed space, and I've still got a tag trailer.

not saying 5ths are bad, just saying that a tag isn't necessarily a downgrade.
 
granitestatedestroyer said:
Meh.

It's a wash.

I've had a goose, and I've had a bumper pull with weight distribution hitch.

I like the bed space, and I've still got a tag trailer.

not saying 5ths are bad, just saying that a tag isn't necessarily a downgrade.
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If you're in the wieght where a bumper pull is totally drama free, a gn/5th wheel is pointless. But the closer you get to the capacity of the truck, the nicer a gn/5th is. I wouldn't want my 7k car hauler or 7x14 enclosed to be goosenecks, but I sure wouldn't want my 36' 22k lb gooseneck to be bumper pull either.

I think it comes into play even more with travel trailer or enclosed with lots of surface area. 13k lbs behind a 99 srw, the 5th wheel will be lots better.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
If you're in the wieght where a bumper pull is totally drama free, a gn/5th wheel is pointless. But the closer you get to the capacity of the truck, the nicer a gn/5th is. I wouldn't want my 7k car hauler or 7x14 enclosed to be goosenecks, but I sure wouldn't want my 36' 22k lb gooseneck to be bumper pull either.

I think it comes into play even more with travel trailer or enclosed with lots of surface area. 13k lbs behind a 99 srw, the 5th wheel will be lots better.
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I was at 23k gross across country with my 24' enclosed and my 2005 SRW. Biggest bummer was power with the v10. I wouldn't hesitate to pull bigger bumper pull either. In fact I kind of wish my trailer was taller.

I will agree that when you get to the bigger shit it is easier to just haphazardly connect and go with a 5th.

I will revise my statement to say that a correctly set up tag trailer isn't necessarily a downgrade
 
I just put Toyos on this morning. $1320 out the door for 4. 285/75/16s
 
It definitely needs air bags. I am going to look into them tomorrow. It did good. And needs a tuner.
 
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WyoJeeper said:
It definitely needs air bags. I am going to look into them tomorrow. It did good. And needs a tuner.
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I would recommend a hydra, but California smog will only work with banks or the approved edge.
 
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