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New Ford Duallys are 6+ months out?

CarterKraft said:
I can't comment on fuel quality or lack there of. Last fuel up shows to be 11/25 still have 5/8 tank left (487 miles).
This fuel was from QT, definitely not premium fuel but I have never had a problem.

My '18 did the same thing in the '21 freeze, even running a torpedo under it for an hour didn't thaw it out back then. I didn't want to take a diesel bath so I just said fuck it and drove the wifes.

I thought I was good this time around but I forgot to drive the truck Friday night to circulate the anti-gel.

'19 DirtyMax service truck fired right up this morning first crank, sounded like a top fueler and stunk like like a pre-combustion engine but had no problems staying running.

I didn't try to restart my truck Sunday because they just crank until they time out now, the "key" don't do shit once you ask for start it cranks for 30 seconds no matter what.

I should have just plugged it in but I am really not sure where it gels at or if that would even help if its the water separator.
I have 911 to add but I don't need the truck and I like to not use that shit if I can keep from it.
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This was 12* with no treatment just #2 from a pump in georgia or alabama

 
Southernfriedcj8 said:
Negative.

The American dream is the wife does proper grocery shopping and ALWAYS has fresh, homemade banana pudding in the fridge.

She brings you a huge bowl right after she clears your dishes from supper away and right before she cleans the kitchen.
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Huh, never had banana pudding.
 
I tried to remote start it from the Ford Pass...
the store I am at has terrible internet so it either didn't start or the internet won't let me watch the video from my security cameras:lmao:
 
Southernfriedcj8 said:
Instead of buy a $150k truck, buy a $75k truck and build a $75k garage. :flipoff2:
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I resemble that remark. Ordered the truck just after ground was broke on the garage. Took delivery a couple weeks before the garage was finished. That was an interesting year.
 
Wife and I are starting to look at replacing our '02 F350 with something a little more modern. I have honestly not paid much attention to the used truck market as its been crazy for the last couple years.

On a whim I looked at a semi local dealer and found quite a few trucks that seem "reasonable" when you consider new is in the $90k+ range. (I just did a quick build of a '24 with roughly the same options and it came out to $95k)

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So what am I missing on this? '20 F350 Platinum for $65k.

It looks to be a damn near fully loaded truck with 65k miles. This dealer has several others that seem to be around the same price point and roughly the same options.

How is a 4 year old truck worth $30k less than new? :confused:
edit: I know this thread is about new duallys, but its clearly jumped around a bit.... so. Sorry?
 
Starboard M said:
Wife and I are starting to look at replacing our '02 F350 with something a little more modern. I have honestly not paid much attention to the used truck market as its been crazy for the last couple years.

On a whim I looked at a semi local dealer and found quite a few trucks that seem "reasonable" when you consider new is in the $90k+ range. (I just did a quick build of a '24 with roughly the same options and it came out to $95k)

2020 Ford F-350SD Platinum Crew Cab 4x4 Issaquah WA | Renton Tacoma Cle Elum Washington 1FT8W3BTXLEC14785

Research the 2020 Ford F-350SD Platinum Crew Cab 4x4 in Issaquah, WA at Evergreen Ford Lincoln. View pictures, specs, and pricing on our huge selection of vehicles. 1FT8W3BTXLEC14785
www.evergreenford.com www.evergreenford.com

So what am I missing on this? '20 F350 Platinum for $65k.

It looks to be a damn near fully loaded truck with 65k miles. This dealer has several others that seem to be around the same price point and roughly the same options.

How is a 4 year old truck worth $30k less than new? :confused:
edit: I know this thread is about new duallys, but its clearly jumped around a bit.... so. Sorry?
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Interesting it came from being a lease in Canadastan

 
Starboard M said:
Wife and I are starting to look at replacing our '02 F350 with something a little more modern. I have honestly not paid much attention to the used truck market as its been crazy for the last couple years.

On a whim I looked at a semi local dealer and found quite a few trucks that seem "reasonable" when you consider new is in the $90k+ range. (I just did a quick build of a '24 with roughly the same options and it came out to $95k)

2020 Ford F-350SD Platinum Crew Cab 4x4 Issaquah WA | Renton Tacoma Cle Elum Washington 1FT8W3BTXLEC14785

Research the 2020 Ford F-350SD Platinum Crew Cab 4x4 in Issaquah, WA at Evergreen Ford Lincoln. View pictures, specs, and pricing on our huge selection of vehicles. 1FT8W3BTXLEC14785
www.evergreenford.com www.evergreenford.com

So what am I missing on this? '20 F350 Platinum for $65k.

It looks to be a damn near fully loaded truck with 65k miles. This dealer has several others that seem to be around the same price point and roughly the same options.

How is a 4 year old truck worth $30k less than new? :confused:
edit: I know this thread is about new duallys, but its clearly jumped around a bit.... so. Sorry?
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Simple. Canadian import. Mine was the same way, and could be had for $10k less than the others because people were afraid of it.

Warranty is the same. You will have to call SiriusXM to activate the satellite trial, as the US dealer will be unable to do so during the purchase process.

The big thing to check would be hours. Mine was pushing it at 2400 for 43,000 miles, but some of them will have 10k+ on the clock, depending upon where in Canukistan it was used. That one was sold in BC, so likely not too bad. Alberta trucks, however...:emb:
 
Starboard M said:
Wife and I are starting to look at replacing our '02 F350 with something a little more modern. I have honestly not paid much attention to the used truck market as its been crazy for the last couple years.

On a whim I looked at a semi local dealer and found quite a few trucks that seem "reasonable" when you consider new is in the $90k+ range. (I just did a quick build of a '24 with roughly the same options and it came out to $95k)

2020 Ford F-350SD Platinum Crew Cab 4x4 Issaquah WA | Renton Tacoma Cle Elum Washington 1FT8W3BTXLEC14785

Research the 2020 Ford F-350SD Platinum Crew Cab 4x4 in Issaquah, WA at Evergreen Ford Lincoln. View pictures, specs, and pricing on our huge selection of vehicles. 1FT8W3BTXLEC14785
www.evergreenford.com www.evergreenford.com

So what am I missing on this? '20 F350 Platinum for $65k.

It looks to be a damn near fully loaded truck with 65k miles. This dealer has several others that seem to be around the same price point and roughly the same options.

How is a 4 year old truck worth $30k less than new? :confused:
edit: I know this thread is about new duallys, but its clearly jumped around a bit.... so. Sorry?
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Mainly because that truck had a MSRP about $10-15K less than a few years later.
My '22 had a MSRP of $86 when I ordered it in 12/21 but when I got it in 12/22 the MSRP was $92k.
This same truck is now over $100k in two model years.

When I sell the '22 I will once again try to get what I paid for it ($79,600) with around 35k miles.

If you don't mind that it doesn't start below freezing I'll let you know next year when I order the new one :shaking:
 
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Starboard M said:
Wife and I are starting to look at replacing our '02 F350 with something a little more modern. I have honestly not paid much attention to the used truck market as its been crazy for the last couple years.

On a whim I looked at a semi local dealer and found quite a few trucks that seem "reasonable" when you consider new is in the $90k+ range. (I just did a quick build of a '24 with roughly the same options and it came out to $95k)

2020 Ford F-350SD Platinum Crew Cab 4x4 Issaquah WA | Renton Tacoma Cle Elum Washington 1FT8W3BTXLEC14785

Research the 2020 Ford F-350SD Platinum Crew Cab 4x4 in Issaquah, WA at Evergreen Ford Lincoln. View pictures, specs, and pricing on our huge selection of vehicles. 1FT8W3BTXLEC14785
www.evergreenford.com www.evergreenford.com

So what am I missing on this? '20 F350 Platinum for $65k.

It looks to be a damn near fully loaded truck with 65k miles. This dealer has several others that seem to be around the same price point and roughly the same options.

How is a 4 year old truck worth $30k less than new? :confused:
edit: I know this thread is about new duallys, but its clearly jumped around a bit.... so. Sorry?
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Damn if I'd pay 65k for a 5 model year old truck.

Damn if I'd buy a 5 year old Ford diesel.

It should be ready for oil pan gaskets any time now.
 
DRTDEVL said:
Simple. Canadian import. Mine was the same way, and could be had for $10k less than the others because people were afraid of it.

Warranty is the same. You will have to call SiriusXM to activate the satellite trial, as the US dealer will be unable to do so during the purchase process.

The big thing to check would be hours. Mine was pushing it at 2400 for 43,000 miles, but some of them will have 10k+ on the clock, depending upon where in Canukistan it was used. That one was sold in BC, so likely not too bad. Alberta trucks, however...:emb:
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Have to watch for that for sure. Some guys start their trucks in November and Don't turn them off until spring.

Have had some days here where when I was out running around and working in -45c temperatures I didn't turn the truck off all day.
 
1oddtech said:
My 99 7.3 took 2 cycles of the glow plugs and intake heater to start. Let it warm up while I was removing the snow from it.
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So the cold weather got it and won't start now, just white smoke. 6.7 tho fires right up and can substitute as a service truck.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
So funny you guys are talking about "omg 15* cold starts" :flipoff2:

15* isn't given a 2nd thought up north, post 7.3 at least :laughing:

My 6.7 started just fine at - 20*F the other day, once I warmed the starter up a bit :lmao:

I'm guessing they don't switch to winter blend down there?
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My 7.3 starts just fine. :flipoff2:

The 7.3 psd, on the other hand…. :Homer:
 
rockota said:
My 7.3 starts just fine. :flipoff2:

The 7.3 psd, on the other hand…. :Homer:
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My glow plugs were non functional when I first bought it. Nbd being in CA 99% of the time. A few times we went on trips and 30* she was out. :lmao: I swear even a few times at 35* it wasn't happy.

One time camping in Oregon, the only thing I could think of was to boil water and dump in on the fuel filter, worked great. :laughing: once I did glow plugs it was fine down to about 10* with a few cycles just in case.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
20*F isn't shit for a modern diesel. Is the blend different down in TX? I feel like they may change our fuel up here in the winter. :confused:
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They do, they are supposed to blend it based on projected temperatures.

Southernfriedcj8 said:
I've always heard that the stations switch over to "winter blend" down here. I don't know if it's a fact.
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Yes. http://www.aghost.net/images/E0213701/Wintefuels.pdf
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YotaAtieToo said:
So funny you guys are talking about "omg 15* cold starts" :flipoff2:

15* isn't given a 2nd thought up north, post 7.3 at least :laughing:

My 6.7 started just fine at - 20*F the other day, once I warmed the starter up a bit :lmao:

I'm guessing they don't switch to winter blend down there?
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Yeah I think maybe I didn't explain good enough. After what happened in '21 and now seeing it still being a problem with 10*F I'd say there is little to no treatment of the fuel.

Or should I say there is no treatment in December or before. I don't claim the truck won't start in cold, I know it will, they are tested to do so...

I was making fun of myself for putting the winter treatment in the tank and then not circulating the fuel:homer:
 
CarterKraft said:
Yeah I think maybe I didn't explain good enough. After what happened in '21 and now seeing it still being a problem with 10*F I'd say there is little to no treatment of the fuel.

Or should I say there is no treatment in December or before. I don't claim the truck won't start in cold, I know it will, they are tested to do so...

I was making fun of myself for putting the winter treatment in the tank and then not circulating the fuel:homer:
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I get it, it's no apples to apples with different fuel. Just thought is was funny.

No different than when someone from the north comes to TX in May and says it's hot out :laughing:
 
And I'll say in '21 my dad's company had a 1000 gal load of treated fuel delivered for their fleet of emergency crane rental trucks and cranes. They had gelled fuel in all the trucks and cranes and had to 911 each one of them to get them going.

Several of our county motor graders had similar problems with "treated" fuel requiring filter changes by out technicians, so it's likely North Texas just doesn't know how to treat fuel for cold.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
I get it, it's no apples to apples with different fuel. Just thought is was funny.

No different than when someone from the north comes to TX in May and says it's hot out :laughing:
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Yeah absolutely, I think it it's cool to compare ways of life, neither is good or bad just different.

Here for a week a year I shutoff my donkeys water and fill a 30 gal rubber water trough.
IMO there isn't need to do anything different.After the freeze it's a 5 minute job to re connect all the disconnected waterers and dump the trough.

I know northerners always want to laugh at our non frost proof hose bibs, and the little Styrofoam covers. But that system has worked for 100 years... It could be better for sure and if I was building a house today I would for sure use frost proof bibs.

I am going to attempt to replace the two freeze prone bibs with self draining frost proof hydrants and insulate the wall bib good enough to not have to worry about it anymore.

It is a pain if the donkey water needs to be refilled before the freeze is over.
 
CarterKraft said:
Yeah absolutely, I think it it's cool to compare ways of life, neither is good or bad just different.

Here for a week a year I shutoff my donkeys water and fill a 30 gal rubber water trough.
IMO there isn't need to do anything different.After the freeze it's a 5 minute job to re connect all the disconnected waterers and dump the trough.

I know northerners always want to laugh at our non frost proof hose bibs, and the little Styrofoam covers. But that system has worked for 100 years... It could be better for sure and if I was building a house today I would for sure use frost proof bibs.

I am going to attempt to replace the two freeze prone bibs with self draining frost proof hydrants and insulate the wall bib good enough to not have to worry about it anymore.

It is a pain if the donkey water needs to be refilled before the freeze is over.
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The area I grew up in norcal was in the mountains, usually got snow half a dozen times a year. Our water lines were 6" under the ground and hose bibs were just Tee'd off and ran up. No frost free anything.

If it did freeze, it was so short, it never caused issues.
 
Southernfriedcj8 said:
Damn if I'd pay 65k for a 5 model year old truck.

Damn if I'd buy a 5 year old Ford diesel.

It should be ready for oil pan gaskets any time now.
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Paid $66K for my 23 250 CCLB HO XLT (not a dually). Is whatever that comes on Lariats or Platinum's really worth buying a 5 year old truck, vs new?(especially diesel)
 
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