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New Ford Duallys are 6+ months out?

YotaAtieToo said:
I'm curious what you think of it vs the 2018. Mostly the 6spd vs the 10 speed.
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This is 100% my biggest curiosity.

I'm doing some light shopping to replace my lower mileage late 99' 7.3l with a newer F-350.

The biggest thing...is either a 2017-2019, or stretching myself some for a 2020 with the 10 speed.

I'll be hauling typically either a buggy on an 18' flatbed, but more so planning on a crawler hauler setup this spring (30' GN car hauler, large truck camper, and buggy).

Either way a 2017-2019 will blow my 7.3L away (and mine's not stock), but really on the fence of 6-speed vs 10-speed given the cost.
 
i have 3;73s in mine but gas 7.3. heavy hauling i lock out the top 3 and let it eat. i do get a clunky shift every now and then.
 
Freerider15 said:
The biggest thing...is either a 2017-2019, or stretching myself some for a 2020 with the 10 speed.

I'll be hauling typically either a buggy on an 18' flatbed, but more so planning on a crawler hauler setup this spring
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Are you looking at the 7.3 gas or the diesel? I have an F350 7.3 gas with 4:30’s with the 10 speed and it hauls a similar load damn well for a gasser. I got 9.9MPG’s hauling two SxS’s on my 18’ trailer from my house at 7800’ elevation to our hunting spot at 10,500 on windy mountain roads. I thought that was a lot better than what I was expecting. I average 14.5MPG unloaded on mostly highway driving. That’s the same as I was getting on my 5.4 V8 1/2 ton so I’m pretty happy. I haven’t had any issues or odd shifting with the 10 speed trans so far. I’ve only got about 5,500 miles on it at this point.


I kept my 3/4 ton CTD and I can’t say that truck really got any better MPG on the highway than the new truck. The thing about diesel owners is they are full of shit or can’t do basic math when giving their mileage.:flipoff2:
 
Freerider15 said:
This is 100% my biggest curiosity.

I'm doing some light shopping to replace my lower mileage late 99' 7.3l with a newer F-350.

The biggest thing...is either a 2017-2019, or stretching myself some for a 2020 with the 10 speed.

I'll be hauling typically either a buggy on an 18' flatbed, but more so planning on a crawler hauler setup this spring (30' GN car hauler, large truck camper, and buggy).

Either way a 2017-2019 will blow my 7.3L away (and mine's not stock), but really on the fence of 6-speed vs 10-speed given the cost.
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The 17-19 will do the job no doubt no worries there if you find one you like.
 
Freerider15 said:
This is 100% my biggest curiosity.

I'm doing some light shopping to replace my lower mileage late 99' 7.3l with a newer F-350.

The biggest thing...is either a 2017-2019, or stretching myself some for a 2020 with the 10 speed.

I'll be hauling typically either a buggy on an 18' flatbed, but more so planning on a crawler hauler setup this spring (30' GN car hauler, large truck camper, and buggy).

Either way a 2017-2019 will blow my 7.3L away (and mine's not stock), but really on the fence of 6-speed vs 10-speed given the cost.
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Should have just bought mine...
The dealership already has it on contract when I dropped it off.
That whole deal probably cost me a few grand but it is what it is, terrible timing.
 
Wheelerfreak said:
Are you looking at the 7.3 gas or the diesel? I have an F350 7.3 gas with 4:30’s with the 10 speed and it hauls a similar load damn well for a gasser. I got 9.9MPG’s hauling two SxS’s on my 18’ trailer from my house at 7800’ elevation to our hunting spot at 10,500 on windy mountain roads. I thought that was a lot better than what I was expecting. I average 14.5MPG unloaded on mostly highway driving. That’s the same as I was getting on my 5.4 V8 1/2 ton so I’m pretty happy. I haven’t had any issues or odd shifting with the 10 speed trans so far. I’ve only got about 5,500 miles on it at this point.


I kept my 3/4 ton CTD and I can’t say that truck really got any better MPG on the highway than the new truck. The thing about diesel owners is they are full of shit or can’t do basic math when giving their mileage.:flipoff2:
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6.7L 100%

While the 7.3L gasser looks tempting:
1.) Not many for sale that I'm seeing, and those that are aren't much off of a 6.7L
2.) Living in CO, given I might go over 2 or more passes to get to a wheeling spot...have the extra oomph is well desired.
3.) The future may hold the possibility of a large fifth wheel (when we have a place with some more property), so the diesel would be nicer for the torque there as well.

If I lived on the Western Slope of CO, I'd consider a gasser since I'd rarely need to drive East and over passes.

I'm not really worried about MPG. While a bump would be nice...it's just part of the owning a truck. I got around 9-9.5 MPG going from Northern Colorado to Sand Hollow each way, towing my buggy, trailer, and a full bed of stuff (call it 8k). But, I also had cruise control set at 75-80mph for a good bit of it. :laughing:

CarterKraft said:
The 17-19 will do the job no doubt no worries there if you find one you like.
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Seems to be the consensus I hear. It will definitely do the job 100%, more so the "is it worth the stretch to a 2020".

CarterKraft said:
Should have just bought mine...
The dealership already has it on contract when I dropped it off.
That whole deal probably cost me a few grand but it is what it is, terrible timing.
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Ironically I was thinking near the same thing as I read through.

"Hell, he might have had just about what I'm window shopping for!"

:laughing:
 
Freerider15 said:
6.7L 100%

While the 7.3L gasser looks tempting:
1.) Not many for sale that I'm seeing, and those that are aren't much off of a 6.7L
2.) Living in CO, given I might go over 2 or more passes to get to a wheeling spot...have the extra oomph is well desired.
3.) The future may hold the possibility of a large fifth wheel (when we have a place with some more property), so the diesel would be nicer for the torque there as well.

If I lived on the Western Slope of CO, I'd consider a gasser since I'd rarely need to drive East and over passes.

I'm not really worried about MPG. While a bump would be nice...it's just part of the owning a truck. I got around 9-9.5 MPG going from Northern Colorado to Sand Hollow each way, towing my buggy, trailer, and a full bed of stuff (call it 8k). But, I also had cruise control set at 75-80mph for a good bit of it. :laughing:



Seems to be the consensus I hear. It will definitely do the job 100%, more so the "is it worth the stretch to a 2020".



Ironically I was thinking near the same thing as I read through.

"Hell, he might have had just about what I'm window shopping for!"

:laughing:
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7.3 has plenty of power to tow in the mountain's, i grossed about 26k last trip over raton pass. but with that said, i have a buddy selling a 19 lwb crew single wheel 6.7 king ranch crew with 65k or so, glass roof and all. 63k and you can drive it home.
 
Freerider15 said:
This is 100% my biggest curiosity.

I'm doing some light shopping to replace my lower mileage late 99' 7.3l with a newer F-350.

The biggest thing...is either a 2017-2019, or stretching myself some for a 2020 with the 10 speed.

I'll be hauling typically either a buggy on an 18' flatbed, but more so planning on a crawler hauler setup this spring (30' GN car hauler, large truck camper, and buggy).

Either way a 2017-2019 will blow my 7.3L away (and mine's not stock), but really on the fence of 6-speed vs 10-speed given the cost.
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Like others have said, either will do the job no sweat.

I honestly think my wife's 2.7 ecoboost is pretty even with a nodded 7.3 power wise :laughing:

Last time I drove a 6.7 with a regular rig behind it. It was probably a ~6500lb truck and trailer and it was a 2011 F250 with 3.31s and 35s. So basically the worst towing 6.7 psd you can get and it was really easy to forget about the trailer.

Same experience with my father in law's 2017 drw and a 7k lb travel trailer.

I gross 38k lbs in a 19 F550 at work, which is only ~350hp, and it's still pretty easy to drive except for going a little slow up grades.

These newer trucks are just ridiculous.
 
TRINDU said:
Just sell me the '99 so itll force your hand to buy something soon.
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:laughing: It's not going anywhere...just yet.

gunracer1 said:
7.3 has plenty of power to tow in the mountain's, i grossed about 26k last trip over raton pass. but with that said, i have a buddy selling a 19 lwb crew single wheel 6.7 king ranch crew with 65k or so, glass roof and all. 63k and you can drive it home.
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I haven't "100%" ruled out the 7.3L, but not remotely leaning towards it.

Having looked, they're pretty much right in the exact same price range as a 6.7 (e.g. looking at a 2020's with Lariat Trim).

There's not the 10-12k difference like there is buying new.

That's a pretty good deal on your buddy's 19. Unfortunately I'm at least 6+ months out of actually pulling a trigger, and looking more towards DRW at this time.

YotaAtieToo said:
Like others have said, either will do the job no sweat.

I honestly think my wife's 2.7 ecoboost is pretty even with a nodded 7.3 power wise :laughing:

Last time I drove a 6.7 with a regular rig behind it. It was probably a ~6500lb truck and trailer and it was a 2011 F250 with 3.31s and 35s. So basically the worst towing 6.7 psd you can get and it was really easy to forget about the trailer.

Same experience with my father in law's 2017 drw and a 7k lb travel trailer.

I gross 38k lbs in a 19 F550 at work, which is only ~350hp, and it's still pretty easy to drive except for going a little slow up grades.

These newer trucks are just ridiculous.
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My 7.3L has aftermarket injectors, turbo, tuners, etc. and my buddies EcoBoost could still keep up if not pass me without much issue going West on I-70. The biggest thing I have on him, is that he can't do much of anything more than buggy and small trailer.

My wife can drive a manual, but won't touch the 6-speed in my truck. I do look forward to just "driving" the truck, and not really DRIVING the truck (e.g. watching gauges, engine temp, EOT, etc.). That, and some more creature comforts wouldn't hurt :grinpimp:
 
Freerider15 said:
:laughing: It's not going anywhere...just yet.



I haven't "100%" ruled out the 7.3L, but not remotely leaning towards it.

Having looked, they're pretty much right in the exact same price range as a 6.7 (e.g. looking at a 2020's with Lariat Trim).

There's not the 10-12k difference like there is buying new.

That's a pretty good deal on your buddy's 19. Unfortunately I'm at least 6+ months out of actually pulling a trigger, and looking more towards DRW at this time.



My 7.3L has aftermarket injectors, turbo, tuners, etc. and my buddies EcoBoost could still keep up if not pass me without much issue going West on I-70. The biggest thing I have on him, is that he can't do much of anything more than buggy and small trailer.

My wife can drive a manual, but won't touch the 6-speed in my truck. I do look forward to just "driving" the truck, and not really DRIVING the truck (e.g. watching gauges, engine temp, EOT, etc.). That, and some more creature comforts wouldn't hurt :grinpimp:
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Mine is a 97 with original single shots, just a chip and ic/exhaust. So on the weaker side of a 7.3.

Ive had the F150 with probably close to 12k lbs behind it and it was honestly totally fine. But if I were towing that often, I'd for sure want something bigger.

I totally get what you're saying about DRIVING the thing. The 97 isn't horrible to drive, but I'm not sure I'd put my wife in it towing, vs even the F150 with a crawler and car trailer she's comfortable at 75-80 mph. I think you'll really enjoy driving the new rig.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
Ive had the F150 with probably close to 12k lbs behind it and it was honestly totally fine.
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My 2013 F150 with the 5.0 and towing package sucked at towing. My empty car hauler at 2,200 lbs was about as much as I wanted behind it.
The car hauler with an F350 on it (probably around 10k) was straight up pucker time.
 
Southernfriedcj8 said:
My 2013 F150 with the 5.0 and towing package sucked at towing. My empty car hauler at 2,200 lbs was about as much as I wanted behind it.
The car hauler with an F350 on it (probably around 10k) was straight up pucker time.
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Must have been your lack of protein :lmao:

Litteraly everyone on the internet says the opposite.

My wife pulled about 7k lbs 900 miles when we moved without mentioning anything feeling uncomfortable. We also recently did about 2500 miles with about the same wieght, switching a few times. We did 80 mph for hours on end, plus a fair amount of steep windy mountain roads. Never once felt like it was even close to its limits.

I also hauled a 2500 dodge 12v on my 14k steel deck over about 350 miles and was very surprised at how well it did.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
Litteraly everyone on the internet says the opposite.
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:shaking: You sure love to spew your opinion as fact.

I related MY experience. Not the experiences of "everyone on the internet".

Next time I want your opinion, I'll ask your wife. :flipoff2:

I'm not the only one that went from this:
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To this:

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For a perspective my dad wanted to get into a 3/4 ton diesel because his '21 Ranger was "tiresome" on long hauls behind his '19 5.0 f150 4x4

The truck just doesn't have enough mass to resist towing forces so wind, passing vehicles etc. just moves it all over the place.
 
CarterKraft said:
For a perspective my dad wanted to get into a 3/4 ton diesel because his '21 Ranger was "tiresome" on long hauls behind his '19 5.0 f150 4x4

The truck just doesn't have enough mass to resist towing forces so wind, passing vehicles etc. just moves it all over the place.
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Hills and passing sucked for me as well.

I'm selling my big trailers (fixin' to put the Gatormade on FB tonight and sold the Texas Pride already). I ordered the F250 just to pull small shit (sub 15k).

edit: Now that I think about it, I first started towing with an F350 dually back in the day. Stepping down to a F150 after several F350's was a culture shock, even on small loads.
 
Southernfriedcj8 said:
:shaking: You sure love to spew your opinion as fact.

I related MY experience. Not the experiences of "everyone on the internet".

Next time I want your opinion, I'll ask your wife. :flipoff2:
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If you could actually comprehend what I posted, you see that I posted a bunch of my own direct experience. Maybe you need more carbs to get some real brain power going :lmao: part of my job for almost 15 years has been hauling things with pickups, lots of different trucks from ~1990 to new and I was impressed by the F150.

My other point was you are literally the only person I've heard day that they weren't impressed by a newer half ton. A good buddy who even worked for a heavy haul company and owned a modded 12v for years was also impressed by his wife's lifted 14 5.0 hauling stuff up and over Donner summit.

If you think you need a late model dually just to pull a car trailer then I guess maybe you should be discussing towing with my wife. :lmao:
 
CarterKraft said:
For a perspective my dad wanted to get into a 3/4 ton diesel because his '21 Ranger was "tiresome" on long hauls behind his '19 5.0 f150 4x4

The truck just doesn't have enough mass to resist towing forces so wind, passing vehicles etc. just moves it all over the place.
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Not my experience at all with much more wieght behind it. Old men are funny like that though.

My father in law bought a 17 drw 6.7 and has never had more behind it than our F150. But he "likes duallys" :laughing:
 
YotaAtieToo said:
My other point was you are literally the only person I've heard day that they weren't impressed by a newer half ton.
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Well me, CK's dad and a dozen guys on the Texas Bowhunter forum.

You are literally the only person I've ever heard rave about a late model F150's towing ability. They are cars with a bed, IMO.

If it works for you great. We can throw you fat ass in the bed and haul you to the ER when you vapor lock from eating beef and gravy 4 times a day. :flipoff2:
 
Southernfriedcj8 said:
Well me, CK's dad and a dozen guys on the Texas Bowhunter forum.

You are literally the only person I've ever heard rave about a late model F150's towing ability. They are cars with a bed, IMO.
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You must not do much research. Lot of guys on here have went from older 3/4 to newer 1/2t and been impressed. They are not cars at all, literally every component but the amount of lug nuts is bigger and better than what a 2005 ish 3/4t had.

Southernfriedcj8 said:
If it works for you great. We can throw you fat ass in the bed and haul you to the ER when you vapor lock from eating beef and gravy 4 times a day. :flipoff2:
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5'11" 175, but nice try
 
Southernfriedcj8 said:
My 2013 F150 with the 5.0 and towing package sucked at towing. My empty car hauler at 2,200 lbs was about as much as I wanted behind it.
The car hauler with an F350 on it (probably around 10k) was straight up pucker time.
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I have a 2014 f150 5.0. It is very obvious if it is hooked to a car trailer with my single cab tacoma on it. I look at guys towing camp trailers and what not with these trucks and I just shake my head..no fuggin way.
 
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