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Holy shit have my local public school teachers gone off the fucking deep end. They will not shut the fuck up about how they are GOING TO DIE if they open the schools back up in the fall. Which is literally the exact opposite of all the data and science we have collected thus far. Because the european countries have had their schools open for months now with no spikes in cases, actually all metrics have fallen.

This is what these stupid bitches are posting everywhere

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Why the fuck cant they just quit then? If they feel like they are being forced to DIE, then just quit? Why are they holding our tax dollars hostage? I FEEL LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
 

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You forget that most of EU is past the second wave. (Edit: first wave im dumb)
It's still being discussed here though.
Some schools had cases and were closed up again for 2 weeks.

And if parents would teach their kids basic shit, then teachers wouldn't have to and could teach. Respect for teachers is non - existent these days. But I see why...
 
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As someone that studied to become an elementary school teacher I say this all the time,

be involved in your children's education.
 

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Typical female "I'm a special snowflake princess" mentality. Millions of us never even stopped working. Yet these cunts act like they're being asked to storm the beaches at Normandy. This is yet another reason that even if I had a kid, they would not be going to public schools.
 

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My wife is a kindergarten teacher. She is afraid they wont let her come back and will be forced to do more online teaching. Half of her kids didn't turn in anything after the school closed this year. Good luck getting those parents involved in anything to do with school.
 

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Fuk em.


Don't pay them so they can actually enjoy the government failure ...


Start charter schools where they are held responsible for student performance.. and actual common sense fact based curriculum...instead of feelings based bullshit.

You know. Perform or fired for lack of performance.

That evil feeling killer is called.....




accountability.






Thomas Sowel has a new book out. If you have children....you should read it.
 
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My wife is a kindergarten teacher. She is afraid they wont let her come back and will be forced to do more online teaching. Half of her kids didn't turn in anything after the school closed this year. Good luck getting those parents involved in anything to do with school.

Totally true....the majority of people can not home school. We are products of government education and incapable.


Thus charter schools with normal programs. Competition is exactly that....keeps swords sharp
 

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The leftists will open those public schools back up eventually. That's where they turn your child into a socialist. The teachers will be told to shut their traps and get back to it.
 

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A good friend is a public school teacher, usually 6th grade. She is conservative Christian in a liberal area...I asked her if the school district determines a liberal agenda. She said not really but there are guide lines to keep to a neutral approach. She claims her best students have a parent(s) who cares and works with students at home. Not directed at anyone here, but she said parents who complain the most usually spend the least time with their kids.
I taught auto shop and electrical construction at vocational HS for a time. The students are all different and what works for one doesn't for another. It can be very demanding. I could do it but too stressful. I wasn't cut out to teach in a classroom and went back to being a construction electrician...
 

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Been teaching 6th grade for 15 years and have never seen the liberal "indoctrination" in an elementary school. Not from me for sure. Not from any other staff, and not when my kids went through school.

Maybe that starts up in high school. I don't know.

We do the Pledge every morning and add in the Nation Anthem on Fridays. Every school in the Fresno area that I know of does the same unless its raining and kids go straight to class rather than line up on the blacktop

Now if you consider something like Black History Month and doing a quick couple lessons on MLK or something indoctrination, then maybe. I don't

In college, its a was a freak show when I went.
 

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As to the OP's meme, I think that there are drama queens in every profession. I can say at our school, we did a blind survery asking every staff member how they felt about opening the school back up. This was done in late May and it was 100% yes. A few people said...just make it as safe as possible but yes.

Call it being a whiner or whatever, but there is some truth in the fact that being around kids all day, and not just the 30-40 in your class, is a germ spreading factory. There isn't a time all year that I don't have kids sick, sneezing, coughing, etc.

I am not worried. If I get it, then I do.

I hated teaching from home, and I worked my ass off teaching from home. I was doing 16-18 hours a day/7 days a week trying to keep up. I worked much less AT work, and I love my kids, coaching, etc.

Many teachers are women and many are older. I can't really blame them for being nervous. We have a few teachers that are in their 60s and one that is vulnerable from other issues. They are wanting to get back asap, but that probably isn't the norm
 

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Holy shit have my local public school teachers gone off the fucking deep end. They will not shut the fuck up about how they are GOING TO DIE if they open the schools back up in the fall. Which is literally the exact opposite of all the data and science we have collected thus far. Because the european countries have had their schools open for months now with no spikes in cases, actually all metrics have fallen.

This is what these stupid bitches are posting everywhere





Why the fuck cant they just quit then? If they feel like they are being forced to DIE, then just quit? Why are they holding our tax dollars hostage? I FEEL LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

I just have to comment on the science and data comment.

There's a meme going around, since Pennsylvania has a tranny for head of DOH who has been "guiding" PA through this. The meme says, "Believe the science. Except about chromosomes, that's all bullshit."

Everyone picks and chooses what they want to take as factual.
 

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Many teachers are women and many are older. I can't really blame them for being nervous. We have a few teachers that are in their 60s and one that is vulnerable from other issues. They are wanting to get back asap, but that probably isn't the norm

ya this is a good point

i was imagining a hot young blonde 1st grade teacher whining about risking her life :laughing:

when in reality its 60yr old Gladis aka Mrs Russel trying to corral abunch of zoomers in high school
 

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I just have to comment on the science and data comment.

There's a meme going around, since Pennsylvania has a tranny for head of DOH who has been "guiding" PA through this. The meme says, "Believe the science. Except about chromosomes, that's all bullshit."

Everyone picks and chooses what they want to take as factual.

That's a fact. With the intardnet you can find tons of data that supports your preconceived agenda, and there's also tons of data that totally debunks that which supports you.
Anything that debunks what you already believe is totally ignored or vilified as "faux news" and propaganda of "the left".
 

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That's a fact. With the intardnet you can find tons of data that supports your preconceived agenda, and there's also tons of data that totally debunks that which supports you.
Anything that debunks what you already believe is totally ignored or vilified as "faux news" and propaganda of "the left".

All data should be looked at what the sample size was, what the control was, was there a statistical significance and if it could be causation or correlation. Just calling something a study has no validity.


I don't recall any leftist teaching from my limited experience with lower grade schools. I think most of it comes from other kids that parents do xyz or told them xyz. High school seemed to have more of it but think it goes along with how kids are growing up then the stuff being taught per say.
 

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It's more like religious chanting. Personally I think it's fine during ceremonies, oath taking, citizenship ceremonies and such. Making kids do it every day before school strips any meaning from it.

What is religious chanting? and how is it more like the Pledge of Allegiance?
 

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That's a fact. With the intardnet you can find tons of data that supports your preconceived agenda, and there's also tons of data that totally debunks that which supports you.
Anything that debunks what you already believe is totally ignored or vilified as "faux news" and propaganda of "the left".

I'm actually agreeing with you to a point. The phrase of fake and bullshit isn't owned by the right. Throw out some information about climate change being wrong and it's fake. Anything that anyone thinks goes against what they "believe" is wrong. And I emphasize "anyone".
 

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I'm actually agreeing with you to a point. The phrase of fake and bullshit isn't owned by the right. Throw out some information about climate change being wrong and it's fake. Anything that anyone thinks goes against what they "believe" is wrong. And I emphasize "anyone".

Yup, both sides are equally bad at this. It's one of the big reasons I gave up on the Rs & Ds. They both have their agendas and neither one gives a flying fuck if there's data that shows them wrong.
 

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All data should be looked at what the sample size was, what the control was, was there a statistical significance and if it could be causation or correlation. Just calling something a study has no validity.


I don't recall any leftist teaching from my limited experience with lower grade schools. I think most of it comes from other kids that parents do xyz or told them xyz. High school seemed to have more of it but think it goes along with how kids are growing up then the stuff being taught per say.

You likely won't remember any leftist teachings from school, nor will you likely see any. I can tell you, from my observations, that it is coming from television. Watch kid's cartoons and shows. They are literally teaching the kids how to be weak and dependant upon others for everything. Also they are taught that everyone deserves a second, third, fourth, infinity chances for wrong doing. No matter what the situation. No punishment is ever given or received. Think about it. How could a leftist agenda be delivered to every school aged kid without the right wing teachers knowing? It's very simple, teachers aren't doing it. TV programs are. It's the most universal communication device used by damn near every child in the US. Easy to spread an agenda that every parent, political standing be damned, is letting their child take part in.
 

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You likely won't remember any leftist teachings from school, nor will you likely see any. I can tell you, from my observations, that it is coming from television. Watch kid's cartoons and shows. They are literally teaching the kids how to be weak and dependant upon others for everything. Also they are taught that everyone deserves a second, third, fourth, infinity chances for wrong doing. No matter what the situation. No punishment is ever given or received. Think about it. How could a leftist agenda be delivered to every school aged kid without the right wing teachers knowing? It's very simple, teachers aren't doing it. TV programs are. It's the most universal communication device used by damn near every child in the US. Easy to spread an agenda that every parent, political standing be damned, is letting their child take part in.

TV huh? Well, that's a parental issue to guide kids to do other stuff besides sit in front of a TV or play violent video games...Opps, do kids still play violent video games?
 

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A good friend of mine, a guy I considered family, is a teacher as is his wife.

He is buying into this shit and completely flipping out how schools should stay closed since the meetings discussing opening them were taking place over teleconference and a boy on one of the local football teams tested positive.

Complete and utter fucking brainwashing. Its insanity.
 

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You likely won't remember any leftist teachings from school, nor will you likely see any. I can tell you, from my observations, that it is coming from television. Watch kid's cartoons and shows. They are literally teaching the kids how to be weak and dependant upon others for everything. Also they are taught that everyone deserves a second, third, fourth, infinity chances for wrong doing. No matter what the situation. No punishment is ever given or received. Think about it. How could a leftist agenda be delivered to every school aged kid without the right wing teachers knowing? It's very simple, teachers aren't doing it. TV programs are. It's the most universal communication device used by damn near every child in the US. Easy to spread an agenda that every parent, political standing be damned, is letting their child take part in.

You hit the nail on the head with this post.
 

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https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...cation-system/


Public” schools have been a catastrophe for the United States. This certainly isn’t an original assertion, but as we watch thousands of authoritarian brats tearing down the legacies of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, it’s more apparent than ever.

State-run schools have undercut two fundamental conditions of a healthy tolerant society. First, they’ve created millions of civic illiterates who are disconnected from long-held communal values and national identity. Second, they’ve exacerbated the very inequalities that trigger the tearing apart of fissures.

If you’re interested in ferreting out “systemic racism,” go to a big-city public-school system. No institution has fought harder to preserve segregated communities than the average teachers’ union. And I don’t mean only in the schools.

Prosperous Americans already enjoy school choice — and not merely because they can afford private schools. Anyone who has ever tried to buy a suburban home in a major metro area can tell you how acutely school districts influence home prices. Many middle-class and working-class families are priced out of areas with good schools because of inflated home values and high property taxes. And families who might otherwise choose to live in more diverse areas are kept out because of failing schools.

This entire dynamic is driven by the antiquated notion that the best way to educate kids is to throw them into the nearest government building. It’s the teachers’ unions that safeguard these fiefdoms through racketeering schemes: First they funnel taxpayer dollars to the political campaigns of allies who, when elected, return the favor by protecting union monopolies and supporting higher taxes that fund unions and ultimately political campaigns. So goes the cycle, decade after decade, one failed student after the next.


Even in cities where limited choice exists, most poor parents, typically black or Hispanic, are compelled to send their kids to inferior schools, even if there are better-suited schools within walking distance. More than a decade ago, I sat in a Denver auditorium with a single Hispanic mom who was, quite literally, praying that her kid’s number would be picked in a charter-school lottery. The mother wept as her number was passed over, not because she was a partisan reactionary — she didn’t care about politics — but because she knew her son would now be forced to attend a subpar and unsafe high school rather than one specifically designed to help first-generation kids assimilate.

It was a heartbreaking scene. And it’s only gotten worse. Colorado has since become a blue state, and Democrats have killed or obstructed numerous school-choice initiatives once supported by moderates in their party. In Denver, schools systems have helped solidify segregated communities, and the achievement gap between white and minority students is one of the worst in the country.

Nevertheless, Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden says he’ll create not a child-oriented Department of Education but a “teacher-oriented Department of Education.” By teachers, Biden means unions. Teachers unions spent $30 million on federal elections alone in 2016 — virtually all of it on Democrats. It’s about more than the money they give, however. Unions organize, campaign, and march for liberal causes. As a Washington Post piece (“Teachers’ unions may not raise pay — but they do bolster the Democratic Party”) aptly put it not long ago:
But teachers’ unions do accomplish something politically notable: They are a vital part of liberal coalitions and the Democratic Party. Teachers’ union organization and mobilization, like that of other government workers’ unions, have long compensated for the declining membership in traditional organized labor. What’s more, they’ve advanced the causes of women’s and LGBTQ rights — rights that are important to many or most of their members. They’ve done that by delivering money, mobilization and organization to both the Democratic Party and to feminist groups.​

It’s likely that left-wing ideologues run your school district. They decide what your children learn. They are the ones who decide that your kid can protest the Second Amendment of the Constitution, but never, not in a million years, march for any cause the Founders might have championed.

Anecdotally speaking, I can confirm that the teaching of American history in at least one D.C. suburb — perhaps a better way to put it would be the un-teaching of American history — is detestable. Most events are couched in relativism; or, worse, the textbooks accentuate every sin and downplay every accomplishment. It would be one thing if this kind of ideological shading were relegated to history class, but it has infected plenty of other things.

If you have no interest in funding campaigns for “women’s and LGBTQ rights” (euphemisms for pro-abortion and anti-religious-liberty causes), well, that’s too bad. If you can’t homeschool your kid or send her to a pricey private school, you lose.

The embedded left-wing nature of big school districts is so normalized that parents rarely say a word. Mom and Dad can buy virtually anything from anywhere in the world, but they can’t use their tax dollars to buy Timmy an education that aligns with their values.

It was one thing when these schools were producing mere Democrats, and it’s quite another now that they’re churning out hordes of chillingly ignorant voters.

A recent study found that 60 percent of Americans couldn’t pass a U.S. Citizenship Test. It comes as no surprise that those 65 or older scored the best, with 74 percent correctly answering at least six out of ten questions. Of those 45 and younger, only 19 percent passed the exam — and the younger the test-takers, the less likely they were to pass. Sixty percent of those tested didn’t know which countries their grandparents fought during World War II. And only 24 percent knew why Americans colonists had fought the British.

Now, I’m under no illusion that higher education is the sole driver of common sense and patriotism — intellectuals are susceptible to some the dumbest ideas ever conceived–– but if state-run schools can’t even teach the Founding, how are we going to move forward as a nation?


Some pundits point out that elite private schools have even worse problems with progressivism than the average public schools. That’s probably true — and also largely irrelevant. But a voucher system creates opportunities for all kinds of students, not just wealthy ones. It stands to reason, when one considers virtually every other marketplace in existence, that competition in education would generate a diverse array of schools offering an array of teaching methods and cultures to meet the needs of consumers. It would also pressure traditional public schools to do a better job retaining students

There is no panacea. School choice won’t instantaneously fix our problems. Yet without closing the gap in educational achievement, it seems unlikely we’re going to fix inequality. Without fixing the corrosion of civic education, it’s unlikely that American liberalism is going to survive. We can’t fix either problem without smashing “public education” as it exists. It might already be too late.
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I want to be in my classroom with my students next month (high school in SoCal). My wife wants to be in her classroom with her students (1st grade). From our perspective "distance teaching" is more challenging and "distance learning" is less successful (with some exceptions).
 

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I want to be in my classroom with my students next month (high school in SoCal). My wife wants to be in her classroom with her students (1st grade). From our perspective "distance teaching" is more challenging and "distance learning" is less successful (with some exceptions).

I don't think Elementary can be done well "distance learning". High School? Best in person, but kinda possible.
 

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Been teaching 6th grade for 15 years and have never seen the liberal "indoctrination" in an elementary school. Not from me for sure. Not from any other staff, and not when my kids went through school.

Maybe that starts up in high school. I don't know.

We do the Pledge every morning and add in the Nation Anthem on Fridays. Every school in the Fresno area that I know of does the same unless its raining and kids go straight to class rather than line up on the blacktop

Now if you consider something like Black History Month and doing a quick couple lessons on MLK or something indoctrination, then maybe. I don't

In college, its a was a freak show when I went.

My buddies wife who is batshit liberal. White guilt ridden the whole nine yards teaches elementary school. She’s always posting on facebook about how she’s going to incorporate some kind of nonsense in her
teaching plans. Our neighbors are also both teachers, and they are the exact same.

If of any of you think that personal political beliefs are not brought into the classroom. You’re wrong.

Speaking of college, take a walk around fresno city college lately? Place is chock full of weird.

luckily at Fresno state most of the staff I deal with are very level headed.
 
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