Originally posted on CK5.com forums on
Jan 31, 2014 as
Rant- why the ** Dodge had to use Yazaki ** during the nineties? thread
For those of you who don't know I'm fixing up my uncle
97 Dodge Cummins for a tow vehicle. The problem is it has been in a fire. I bought it $500 because it is worth more than that in parts.
The truck has some history with my uncle since it was his late best friend's truck so he wants me to save it.
Since it was a mechanical Cummins, I rigged it up to see if it runs. It does. the engine and injection pump was not hurt in the fire.
Getting the hard parts is the easy part. Somebody next door had a hood and radiator. Picked up a core support, grill and cowl some place else. The rest bought online.
The wiring is the hard part. At first, I looked in building a new harness but finding the connectors and terminals proved too difficult and some of the stuff was discontinued. It is a 15 year truck but damn, I can find Delphi/P.E.D stuff for a 40 year old blazer. Another thing was cost. Dodge use a lot of wires with tracers (the stripe). Not easy to find and cost a fortune to have made. 1000' min per wire from Waytech and Terminal Supply.
Somebody suggested buying a used harness from eBay. Okay, I'm not an eBay fanatic it requires discipline to check every day, but I started checking eBay. Months have gone by till one of the harnesses came up. It was the chassis harness but it was for a manual transmission truck. I have an auto, but not only that, 97 was the second year of the electronic transmission. The harness may not have every thing in it for the transmission. I took the chance and bought it and got lucky. It is interchangeable, but it could of easily not have been. The harness I bought has a relay for my transmission which could have easily been omitted. I did have to add the jumper wire from my old harness to be used in place of the clutch safety switch.
Search for the second harness starts. Another month goes by and a 96 engine harness with automatic comes up. For those of you who actually take the time to read my long post should have figure out the 96 should the first year of electronic transmission and the harness
should interchange. That was not my worry because I wanted to know if the harness was out of 4x4. Email the guy and didn't get an answer. **** it. I bought it anyway.
The good news, it looks like should work in a 4x4.
The bad news, it doesn't interchange with the 97 harness.
One of the three mating plugs between the chassis harness is different. What else is different? After a half day with a multimeter checking ohms on the wires and checking the 97 tech manual, I find out I'm missing the EGR solenoid wires, I'm missing the coolant temp sensor wires for the EGR and the alternator field wire is on a different circuit. Not only that, that different circuit is also missing and it activates the transmission relay. All the other wires are there for the transmission, but one wire from the PCM to the transmission relay is missing. ***************************** **** it.
I should have just started looking on eBay again but I decided to try to make this 96 harness work. The one plug that is different is probably an upgraded update an the should still be active. And what luck, it is!
It made by FCI Apex and I think they just merged with Delphi! **** yeah, Delphi stuff is much easier to find.
One problem solved.
In my previous search for making a harness, I found out the terminals going to the PCM is made by Tyco now TE Connectivity.
Two problems solved.
Now I just need a terminal going to the existing connector at the other end of the harness. After months of searching Moser website, I found nothing. I decided to check out
another web site because I have a feeling some of this stuff is made over seas.
Bingo.
The Yazaki looked familiar. Checked their site and found a bunch stuff that is on the dodge, not all but some.
Called two US distributors today and I had to place a 10000 min order get any thing. ********* YOOOOUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!