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Mold from Chernobyl seems to feed on radiation

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I had a thread on the "place which is no more" but since there is new development i thought i would start one here.

https://www.businessinsider.com/chernobyl-mold-protect-astronauts-from-radiation-in-space-2020-7


  • Researchers recently sent mold that grows at the site of the Chernobyl nuclear meltdown to the International Space Station for study.
  • The mold appears to feed on radiation, so early research suggests it might help protect astronauts from the dangerous radioactivity of space.
Astronauts take many risks in space, but exposing themselves to dangerous radiation is one of the biggest. On the International Space Station, astronauts are exposed to up to 160 millisieverts of radiation during a six-month mission, according to NASA, — that's about 1,600 chest x-rays, and 26 times more than the average US citizen receives. Mars is even worse; an astronaut making an 18-month round trip to the red planet would be exposed to 1,000 millisieverts of radiation, or 10,000 chest x-rays' worth.

For protection, astronauts generally rely on radiation shields made of plastics or metals like aluminum and stainless steel. But these can be heavy and vulnerable to damage.

So in 2018, some high school students from Durham County, North Carolina proposed an unusual solution to this problem: Make a shield out of mold.





Specifically, they suggested cladosporium sphaerospermum, an organism that appears to feed on nuclear radiation the same way most plants feed on sunlight. The mold has thrived in Chernobyl's exclusion zone, the site of the 1986 nuclear meltdown, which is still one of the most radioactive places on Earth.

The students, led by Graham Shunk, now an incoming second-year student at the North Carolina School of Science and Mathematics, obtained samples of the mold species from a company in Minnesota. With the help of the research company Space Tango, they blasted them into outer space in December 2018.

On the International Space Station, astronauts put the mold samples into Petri dishes, leaving one side of each dish empty. Geiger counters then measured radiation levels beneath the dishes every 110 seconds for 30 days. The results showed that radiation levels decreased at the height of the mold's growth: The counters measured a 2.4% decrease in average radiation levels beneath the mold-covered sides.

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Researchers grew Cladosporium sphaerospermum mold on the left sides of petri dishes on the International Space Station.
Space Tango, Inc.

The preliminary findings from that experiment were uploaded to the research archive bioRxiv on July 17, but have not yet been peer-reviewed. Still, they suggest that the mold could act as a shield against radiation in space.

That's because the mold appears to absorb radiation and convert it into chemical energy in a process called radiosynthesis. It's similar to photosynthesis, the process most plants use to convert sunlight into energy.

Shunk and the other researchers suggested that if the mold were about 21 centimeters thick, it could provide humans adequate protection from radiation levels on Mars. The protection would be stronger if the mold surrounded an object entirely, they think, instead of just shielding one side as it did in the study.


The International Space Station orbits Earth.
NASA

The mold has a big advantage over other types of radiation shields, the researchers also noted, since it can grow and replenish itself in space. That means a microscopic amount of C. sphaerospermum could be all that's needed at the start of a launch — so it wouldn't add extra weight to a rocket. That could be a game-changer, since NASA estimates that launching something into space costs about $10,000 per pound.

Read the original article on Business Insider
 
In next week's news: Godzilla's fromunda cheese becomes sentient, world is fucked - film at 11 :laughing:
 
In next week's news: Godzilla's fromunda cheese becomes sentient, world is fucked - film at 11 :laughing:

Yea, I've seen this movie. Mold becomes self aware in observation deck, doors locked with 2 crew members inside. Wew... really gonna miss Jerry and Michelle, but at least we got it sealed from the rest of the ship. Fast forward an hour... now everyone on the ship is dead and it's reentering earth's atmosphere on a pre-programmed return trip home.
 
"Screw that plastic and aluminum radiation shield. Slather me with 8.25" of mold."
 
can we all agree that the universe is taking a big shit on us right now, and that fucking around with radioactive mold in space isn't a good idea?
 
I think Chernobyl is fascinating. Something you can't see or taste or smell can kill you with no ability to see it coming and fight against it.

It has always been just a matter of time before technology catches up and finds a way to neutralize or even use our waste products.
 
Radio-synthesis is not understood, only a hypothesis. Photosynthesis is explicitly understood, we know exactly how plants use photons to create sugars and build them into chains for cellulose.

Ionizing radiation:

Alpha Particles: 2 Protons + 2 Neutrons = He4 It's a Helium atom with 2 neutrons, slow, but damaging if it gets in your cell. It's how Polonium 210 did in Litvenenko. Not picked up by geiger counters, doesn't make it through your skin or a sheet of paper. Unlikely to be an energy source.

Beta Particles: A fast Electron or Positron. Can make it through your epidermis but doesn't cause much damage in low amounts because electrons and positrons are tiny. Very unlikely to be an energy source.

Fast Neutrons: Again, huge, and this time fast. Neutron flux is how you control a nuke reactor. It's meaningful and carries energy that might be used by a mold.

Xrays and Gamma Rays: These are just photons cooked up to high energy, or high frequency electromagnetism depending on what model you use. So basically it's 'light' but very high frequency.

So out of this it seems pretty obvious that the mold is just using Xrays or Gamma rays, maybe the way plants use it. I find it very 'In Search Of' and ufo-ey to think a fungus is using beta particles for an energy source.

Could also be just heat. Fungus does use heat to grow and turn things into energy.

The idea is extremely attractive, but the amount of 'repair' that DNA would have to go through in the presence of ionizing radiation would make this a non-meaningful energy source for life as we know it. A non-trivial amount of food we eat is used to keep our DNA from turning monstrous.... no in fact from turning useless. Damaged DNA almost never turns into a viable cell, only a rare amount of times does the cell live but become a benign tumor, rarer yet become malignant, and EXCEEDINGLY rarely become a new mutation that has viability. Like EXCEEDINGLY rare.

So the idea that ionizing radiation is providing a SURPLUS of energy over that used to keep DNA in line and dispose of non-viable tissue is highly unlikely.

I bet that's the criticism from the scientist ^^^ right there.
 
can we all agree that the universe is taking a big shit on us right now, and that fucking around with radioactive mold in space isn't a good idea?

I wanna be a fly on the wall when intelligent life digs us up 300m years from now.

"This is Fatconticus Worthlessolsaur. Notice the perfectly preserved bag of salt chemical crisps in its lap, and the Information screen nearby..."
 
I wanna be a fly on the wall when intelligent life digs us up 300m years from now.

"This is Fatconticus Worthlessolsaur. Notice the perfectly preserved bag of salt chemical crisps in its lap, and the Information screen nearby..."

Learning things is a survival instinct, eating is a survival instinct, comfort and rest are survival instincts.

This fashion of hating humans for having survival instincts is fine for the movie Wall-E, but it's not objectively a valuable criticism.

It's the same exact thing as criticizing a horse for running, or a plant for growing towards the sun.
 
I wanna be a fly on the wall when intelligent life digs us up 300m years from now.

"This is Fatconticus Worthlessolsaur. Notice the perfectly preserved bag of salt chemical crisps in its lap, and the Information screen nearby..."

And this one is Cornholio. Notice the clean bung hole...he died during the tp crisis of 2020.:flipoff2:
 
in for a penny, in for a pound I suppose.

fuck it.
double the mold experiments.

Right lets take this to a respectable level. Lets mix the radiation mold with the 100 million year old microbes they just woke up that they found deep in the seabed of the pacific. That should do the trick!
 
can we all agree that the universe is taking a big shit on us right now, and that fucking around with radioactive mold in space isn't a good idea?

It's 2020, the way things have been going, this is the only time to try this sort of thing. Why fuck up a potentially great future when you can only make the fucked up now worse.
 
Right lets take this to a respectable level. Lets mix the radiation mold with the 100 million year old microbes they just woke up that they found deep in the seabed of the pacific. That should do the trick!

we should totally get the radiation mold's DNA into some other shit.

radation eating goats could clean up chernobyl in like 18 months.
 
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