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cervelorod

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Any IBB’ers gonna be at Moab this weekend? Wife made reservations at a campground in town. Taking the SxS and hoping to run Hells Revenge and Fins and Things. never been before, and 1 of the days we hope to go to Arches. Kind of a quick trip, better than hanging around home..
 
Not going to be there this weekend, but it's lots of fun. A quick trip is better than no trip at all!
 
Mid 90's is just like home right now. Figured there would be lots of people, but this is a wife planned trip, so I encouraged it. She is in charge of the Arches part also, and we have alternate plans if we cant get in there. Hoping this sparks a "gotta come back here often" trend. Next trip I'll have the XJ done, promise... :lmao:
 
Wades_76_cj7 said:
Takes LOTS of water on the trail with you.. I always run into MTBs on the trail and they are always out of water by 9am.

Are you guys going solo? Be safe if so.
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We have no friends, so I guess solo. I am hoping to tag along with someone or find a group to tag along with. I don't plan anything much for this trip and plan to stay on main trails ( I expect them to be busy on the holiday weekend ). As per the other thread, I'm to old and frail to take many chances...
 
cervelorod said:
We have no friends, so I guess solo. I am hoping to tag along with someone or find a group to tag along with. I don't plan anything much for this trip and plan to stay on main trails ( I expect them to be busy on the holiday weekend ). As per the other thread, I'm to old and frail to take many chances...
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Not much to "take a chance on" on hells or fins. I mean, maybe don't do Hell's gate, escalator, or the hot tubs if you're not wanting to take chances, the rest are a scenic drives on smooth surfaces.
 
Wish I could get away for the weekend. I miss Moab. As mentioned it's gonna be hot.

you will be fine on Hell's and Fins.

I run the first half of Hell's. turning out after Escalator and heading up Stairway to Hell? to go back to the entrance..
I run last half of Fins. Go down Sand Flats RD to the radio tower access road and pick up the trail there. It is much smoother trail. First half of Fins is a lot of broken rock poking thru the dirt/sand and it's rough as hell and not much fun.
 
Ransil said:
Go in the back way
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Wades_76_cj7 said:
Wish I could get away for the weekend. I miss Moab. As mentioned it's gonna be hot.

you will be fine on Hell's and Fins.

I run the first half of Hell's. turning out after Escalator and heading up Stairway to Hell? to go back to the entrance..
I run last half of Fins. Go down Sand Flats RD to the radio tower access road and pick up the trail there. It is much smoother trail. First half of Fins is a lot of broken rock poking thru the dirt/sand and it's rough as hell and not much fun.
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I bought the book about the trails, but I have seen several things saying in a Rzr the trails are over-rated. Was thinking Fins the first outing, we are used to all sand or forest service roads, then Hells after that.

I should be able to drive rzr from campsite in town out to both of these right? I did the UT class and have a UT sticker for the car.
 
Not unless you are street legal.


those trails will be cake in a RZR. Hell's isn't hard unless you are doing Hell's Gate, the Escalator or the hot tubs. it's steep yes but smooth. The traffic is gonna be heavy on a holiday weekend. I suggest getting to the trails as early as you can, 7am or so, to beat the crowds.

You can do the first half of HR and the last half of Fins in about 6 hours solo.

If you have never been before I would run this in the morning then head back to camp for late lunch and hang out. Then we like to go run Top of the World in the evening. Park just past the Dewey Bridge. There is a pit toilet there as you turn off 128 Highway. Go past the Dewey Bridge about 150 yards or so? and there is a staging area there. It's an easy gravel road til you turn off onto TotW. TotW is a blue for the most part. There is a couple of ledges that will challenge you but you should have no trouble in a RZR. You have a winch just in case? Watching the sun set of Top of the World is pretty damn cool.
 
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We have a group of 6 jeeps heading out from the east coast next week. Will be in the trails 9/9-14 lmk if anyone will be around.
 
Wades_76_cj7 said:
Not unless you are street legal.


those trails will be cake in a RZR. Hell's isn't hard unless you are doing Hell's Gate, the Escalator or the hot tubs. it's steep yes but smooth. The traffic is gonna be heavy on a holiday weekend. I suggest getting to the trails as early as you can, 7am or so, to beat the crowds.

You can do the first half of HR and the last half of Fins in about 6 hours solo.

If you have never been before I would run this in the morning then head back to camp for late lunch and hang out. Then we like to go run Top of the World in the evening. Park just past the Dewey Bridge. There is a pit toilet there as you turn off 128 Highway. Go past the Dewey Bridge about 150 yards or so? and there is a staging area there. It's an easy gravel road til you turn off onto TotW. TotW is a blue for the most part. There is a couple of ledges that will challenge you but you should have no trouble in a RZR. You have a winch just in case? Watching the sun set of Top of the World is pretty damn cool.
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I am street legal in WA, UT, ID, OR. I love how everyone wants their pound of flesh. I do have a winch on the front.

Thanks for your recommendations!
 
Opiebennett said:
Make sure you read about arches timed entry requirements.

Almost as hard to get as Taylor Swift tickets.
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No kidding, we planned a trip months in advance and even that far out the timed entry slots were slim pickings.

Each evening they release a number of spots for the next day though so we were johnny on the spot when those were released and got some good entrance times for the following day.

And fuck that system for the record, one of the dumbest ideas the national parks have ever come up with. :mad3:
 
TanTJJim said:
No kidding, we planned a trip months in advance and even that far out the timed entry slots were slim pickings.

Each evening they release a number of spots for the next day though so we were johnny on the spot when those were released and got some good entrance times for the following day.

And fuck that system for the record, one of the dumbest ideas the national parks have ever come up with. :mad3:
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Fucking greedy ass developers fucked it up. They over built resorts, hotels and AirBnb's. Moab WAS a sleepy little town. Zion is the same way now; totally fucked! :flipoff::flipoff::flipoff:
I am expecting daily limits on NP and state park visits.

Tip..... Lee's Ferry is a great camp ground. There is also some some damm good wheeling near by. (lots of eye candy). :smokin::smokin::smokin::smokin::smokin:
 
cervelorod said:
I am street legal in WA, UT, ID, OR. I love how everyone wants their pound of flesh. I do have a winch on the front.

Thanks for your recommendations!
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if you have a plate on your RZR and have turn signals and such you should be legal according to this.
 
billdacat said:
Fucking greedy ass developers fucked it up. They over built resorts, hotels and AirBnb's. Moab WAS a sleepy little town. Zion is the same way now; totally fucked! :flipoff::flipoff::flipoff:
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I hear you, I grew up in Estes Park which is a gateway to Rocky Mtn Natl Park and it's the same story there too.

One side of me is glad to see more people enjoying our Natl Parks but the other side loathes seeing all that comes with it.
 
For arches, get up early to head in and hike to watch the sunrise. Beat the reservation system, crowds, and heat. Once it starts getting busy, dip out, go somewhere else, and head back after 4 to watch sunset over a different set of arches. Stars are nuts out there. Screw being there midday.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Desert low 90s are nothing compared to mid to high 80s with any humidity to speak of. :laughing:
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I think the biggest issue for people that aren't used to the ultra low humidity is they don't realize how much you are sweating since your clothes aren't wet. By that time they are really dehydrated and in trouble.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Desert low 90s are nothing compared to mid to high 80s with any humidity to speak of. :laughing:
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89-90 is beautiful out there.

105-112 is way worse than anything I’ve felt in the north east.

You can’t drink enough water out there. Take a case each day, just in case.
 
Wades_76_cj7 said:
I think the biggest issue for people that aren't used to the ultra low humidity is they don't realize how much you are sweating since your clothes aren't wet. By that time they are really dehydrated and in trouble.
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Fact. I played in a football game in Hays KS, 116 on the turf an no humidity. The whole 2 weeks before at camp in Emporia was upper 90's with 80% plus humidity, soaked to your underwear and socks every practice hard to breathe. Go out for the game, not a drop of sweat on me the whole time! Felt amazing, never felt hot in the least. Could breathe even. Turns out that night I was quite dehydrated, lots of cramps and headaches, whoopsy
Edit: That's me agreeing that 92 with no humidity is no biggie, I was in Moab in July and it was 1teens. Miserable on those rocks radiating heat up into you. My "116 isn't hot compared to 96 with humidity" statement was talking about an extreme example, not pleasure wheelin
 
Blacksheep10 said:
Fact. I played in a football game in Hays KS, 116 on the turf an no humidity. The whole 2 weeks before at camp in Emporia was upper 90's with 80% plus humidity, soaked to your underwear and socks every practice hard to breathe. Go out for the game, not a drop of sweat on me the whole time! Felt amazing, never felt hot in the least. Could breathe even. Turns out that night I was quite dehydrated, lots of cramps and headaches, whoopsy
Edit: That's me agreeing that 92 with no humidity is no biggie, I was in Moab in July and it was 1teens. Miserable on those rocks radiating heat up into you. My "116 isn't hot compared to 96 with humidity" statement was talking about an extreme example, not pleasure wheelin
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This summer at one point the temp off delicate arch was recorded at either 149 or 150 degrees.

Moab is like a giant cast iron pot.
 
FleshEater said:
This summer at one point the temp off delicate arch was recorded at either 149 or 150 degrees.

Moab is like a giant cast iron pot.
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To be clear, that was the surface temp of the arch, not ambient air temp.

Not much different than any other surface temp when the ambient is over 100.
 
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