Beat95yj
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Lately I’ve been seeing that conservatives are anti-IVF and a bunch of Republicans voted against it today. I’m not sure what the reasoning is.
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May as well ask here, what is the issue with IVF?
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Lil'John
Former #278
Can't tell you but I'd venture the rest of the voted down bill was garbage... you know IVF plus 100B+++ funding for Ukraine.
Beat95yj
Rolling 24/7
That could be. I didn’t see any mention in the blurb I read of anything, but Republicans and IVF
flexy flatty
Red Skull Member
I always assumed that it was because they make an excess of embryos and don’t use all of them
Maybe the "selective reduction" wherein they vacuum abort the excess multiples from IVF?
(e.g., IVF shotgun approach produces 7 fertilized eggs & they only "keep" 1 or 2).
(e.g., IVF shotgun approach produces 7 fertilized eggs & they only "keep" 1 or 2).
rockmup
El Hefe
Thats how I understand it. Life is life.
Gbkeith
El Western Motel
What’s wrong with that? That’s the standard process for all embryo producers.
buzzbombxj
Not too samrt
This is it exactly, there is often a bunch of embryos that won't be used, and killed instead. Some are adopted out, but that's not super common. An implanted embryo doesn't habe a 100% chance of taking, so usually a few embryos are implanted in the woman at a time. If more then the desired amount of embryos attach, they abort the excess. If someone is prolife, and believes all embryos are a human life, it stands to reason they wouldn't like IVF, the way it is currently practiced
flexy flatty
Red Skull Member
I didn’t say it was or was not wrong, that wasn’t the question.
Norm
Newb
I've seen nothing on people being against IVF, is that a California thing 
Let's define "complete viability" as the 73rd trimester so kids have greater incentive to get their shit together 
Gbkeith
El Western Motel
My dad emphasized that possibility until I was 16 or so.Let's define "complete viability" as the 73rd trimester so kids have greater incentive to get their shit together
Beat95yj
Rolling 24/7
So the idea is to ban IVF, so there is zero life created? That’s nuts.
WiscoF100
Red Skull Member
“I brought you into this world, I can take you out. Get your shit together”
WiscoF100
Red Skull Member
What’s nuts is how many of those created life’s could possibly sprout blue and purple fucking hair. We’re not god and should act accordingly. Has anyone noticed the gene pool lately?
Beat95yj
Rolling 24/7
That’s not due to the IVF, thats shitty parents leaving their kids to others to raise.
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Provience
Kill!
Pork plus keep gov funding out of it.
However likely just the wrong kind of pork if a politician voted against
Well, that's not how the mainstream news presented it to Beat95yj
. . . but it's likely the core of their argument, and
to them for it.Looks like I'm correct if my reading comprehension is correct. The bill was trying to mandate guaranteed access by either the government or your insurance footing the bill.Well, that's not how the mainstream news presented it to Beat95yj
. . . but it's likely the core of their argument, and
Admittedly, I only scanned the article so...
Awesome, they're staving off encroaching socialism
You're being fed a biased line of shit, and you should be disappointed in those sources.
Their reasoning is that we shouldn't pay for elective medical procedures of others.
Let's all give them a round of applause
- because fuck socialism 
Beat95yj
Rolling 24/7
That’s not at all what I saw in the blurb. I agree that if you want the procedure, you should pay for it. All I really saw was something that said Republicans voted on party lines against it. 🤷♂️
I was pretty quick with my scanning so I could have misread something but that was my takeaway.
I'm not worried enough about it to really go back and digest it. My laziness out does my curiosity at this point.
Plus I gotta finish reading the exorcist so I can move to my next book.
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dntsdad
Central California
I think that is it. Potential life is being destroyed.
If that life is man-made, is it really a "sin" to destroy? Not sure how it all works.
I DO know that these issues are killing the right though.
If that life is man-made, is it really a "sin" to destroy? Not sure how it all works.
I DO know that these issues are killing the right though.
I lied about my laziness. This is a quote from Thune about it from Fox.
"Every Republican is for IVF. I don't know of any Republican that isn't," he said. "The question of whether or not insurance ought to cover it is another issue that we need to talk about."
"Every Republican is for IVF. I don't know of any Republican that isn't," he said. "The question of whether or not insurance ought to cover it is another issue that we need to talk about."
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That’s it right there. You fertilize a batch of eggs, and the embryos that don’t get transferred are often discarded or donated to science, which some people feel strongly against, treating it similar to abortion.
Wife and I spent over 100k of our own money on it since it’s not typically covered by insurance, so I know a thing or two…
While you are correct about the procedure I do not believe that is the reasoning they killed the bill. Based on my limited digging. I believe it was a financial decision. And not all repubs believe it was the right one. Trump and several other support government or insurance funding it.
From where I sit, this is a financial battle being had, not a morality one.
WiscoF100
Red Skull Member
My point is the population isn’t at risk with natural conception alone. What’s crazy is people not accepting what they get in life. Creating life is just as controversial as terminating life.