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NPKennny

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TLDR - Need help with fuel rail pressure sensor, 6.6 swap in place of 5.3


This summer I swapped a 3-miles take-out 6.6 Gas L8T into our 2015 Suburban . The Suburban's 5.3 collapsed a lifter at 75K miles and was repaired under warranty. It collapsed another at 150K miles, so I made the change.

The L8T is a steel block with very similar architecture as the L83, but has ZERO displacement on demand (DOD) hardware. 80 additional cubic inches is great, too.

Doing this project myself was a major upgrade from what local shops were offering: 1. GM Crate swap for $17k or Jasper Reman swap for $9k. I'm in at about $9K now with new accessories, motor mounts, cooling system, tuning, etc. and ZERO DOD.

I have run into a final issue with tuning compatibility that the local tuner I am working with cannot quite help me sort out. The fuel rail pressure is reading ~3,500 psi at idle when is should be 580 psi. The tuner pointed back to the sensor being faulty and suggested the challenge is mechanical and not computer. I replaced the fuel rail sensor, found the same number and began digging in.

The fuel rail sensor for the 5.3 is a 4-prong sensor. The 6.6 sensor is a 3-prong. The fitting that connects to the fuel rail is different as well. The sensor plugs into the driver side injector harness. The main harness connection is mechanically the same, except that it is one-pin short.

After identifying the difference in sensors, the tuner shared that there isn't a programming work-around and the tuning software does not provide a table to calibrate this reading. The tuner states the 5.3 computer cannot interpret the 6.6 sensor in this instance. So we are at the first standstill of this otherwise straightforward project.

Have any of you experienced this? Is there a tuning workaround? Is the solution to replace the driver side fuel rail, injector harness, and sensor? If these parts are changed, will this cure this? I did not expect this to be uncharted territory, but apparently there are not many 6.6 swaps and this is a potential item.

Fuel Rail Sensor 5.3 v 6.6 - 1.jpg


Fuel Rail Sensor 5.3 v 6.6 - 2.jpg


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How are you fucking up the most common, most documented motor swap there is?

I'd hate to see how you'd fuck up a Lego build.

Get a 6.6 computer and harness and quit hacking it. You're working harder than you need. Stepping over a dollar to save a dime.
 
Honestly, this is the first mention of swapping to the 6.6 computer. I'm certainly not trying to hack it. I'd gladly get a 6.6 computer, but I understood them to be the same thing.

Next dumb question, without there being a 6.6 suburban, does the 6.6 computer create other challenges?
 
Sort of surprised the sensors are that different.

I was going to say ECM would seem like easiest solution but might create more problems as mentioned.
 
OP, have you confirmed the ckp and cmp rings are the same?
 
Why not just put a DOD delete cam and tune in the 5.3?

I love my deleted Silveraydo
 
I'll look at work tomorrow and see what's compatible. Should be able to use the 5.3 sensor.

Should've tossed a LT2 cam & springs in that 6.6 prior to the swap :smokin:
This what you are referring to?

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I'd say the OP's swap is far from well documented.
OP, have you posted on the hpt forums?
It's essentially an LS swap which everyone is doing is it not? LT1 swap and many other websites and YouTube channels have documented swaps.

What am I missing that makes this one unique?
 
Sort of surprised the sensors are that different.

I was going to say ECM would seem like easiest solution but might create more problems as mentioned.
Even on the older LS architecture i ran into sensor and injector compatibility issues between 5.3s and my 6.0.

Worst case OP can run a 6.6 computer as a standalone with gauges and then run the body stuff on the factory computer. It'd suck but could work.
 
Unless I'm mistaken they are both direct injection. My older 6.0 is direct injection. They should both be electronic throttle bodies too.
But they are different hard parts, the man even posted pix of the different hardware.:idea:

Just cause this is "IRATE" we don't really have to hit everyone in the face with our dicks when they need some help for ACTUALLY building a RIG!:shocked:
 
But they are different hard parts, the man even posted pix of the different hardware.:idea:

Just cause this is "IRATE" we don't really have to hit everyone in the face with our dicks when they need some help for ACTUALLY building a RIG!:shocked:
Did you read my first reply?

You're literally agreeing with me that he's forcing things that shouldn't be. Like the different sensors. Programming isn't gonna solve that. ECM is looking for xyz and his sensors are saying abc. I'd be willing to bet the pinouts are different as well between the 2 motors.

As for what makes his swap unique, it's still not been answered. I'm not saying I'm not wrong but we all know someone who's swapped a smaller "LS" for a larger one. Even from that timeframe.
 
And because he doesn't have a time machine...
:homer:

I was more asking why he didn`t DOD delete the 5.3 that was already in the truck if he was looking for simple




OP are the cam lobes the same on both cams for the high pressure pump?
 
I'll look at work tomorrow and see what's compatible. Should be able to use the 5.3 sensor.

Should've tossed a LT2 cam & springs in that 6.6 prior to the swap :smokin:
And an LSA blower! Full disclosure, this will return to be my wife's ride and I have two near driving teenagers. 400hp will be plenty.


I'd say the OP's swap is far from well documented.
OP, have you posted on the hpt forums?
Yes. Limited info and responses, yet.


OP, have you confirmed the ckp and cmp rings are the same?
More info please. I am not familiar with these.


Why not just put a DOD delete cam and tune in the 5.3?

I love my deleted Silveraydo
Considered it, but the cost was way too close to what I paid for this engine to do it right, and then with everything else still has 150k miles on it. I just went all in. I still have the 5.3.


It's essentially an LS swap which everyone is doing is it not? LT1 swap and many other websites and YouTube channels have documented swaps.

What am I missing that makes this one unique?
That is what I thought and the other 10K steps went swell. This one is a hiccup that hasn't clearly been solved for in my looking, including at the LS shop that is doing the tuning.


Even on the older LS architecture i ran into sensor and injector compatibility issues between 5.3s and my 6.0.

Worst case OP can run a 6.6 computer as a standalone with gauges and then run the body stuff on the factory computer. It'd suck but could work.
I had about 5 other sensor interfaces that I had to solve for along the way. No problem. This one I would like to do right without buying multiple hard parts that might fix it, especially if there is a tuning solution, which I honestly expect should exist for as simple as this is.


Just cause this is "IRATE" we don't really have to hit everyone in the face with our dicks when they need some help for ACTUALLY building a RIG!:shocked:
Rooney has lady parts. Just a little sand in there today. No big deal. :flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2:
 
I was more asking why he didn`t DOD delete the 5.3 that was already in the truck if he was looking for simple

OP are the cam lobes the same on both cams for the high pressure pump?

Simple was not the goal. The swap with refreshed everything was. I don't know about the cam lobes. The high pressure pump is the one that came with the 6.6, never removed. I presume it is compatible with the cam.
 
Programming isn't gonna solve that. ECM is looking for xyz and his sensors are saying abc. I'd be willing to bet the pinouts are different as well between the 2 motors.

As for what makes his swap unique, it's still not been answered. I'm not saying I'm not wrong but we all know someone who's swapped a smaller "LS" for a larger one. Even from that timeframe.
I would not call it unique. But I will admit to being uninformed. I knocked out the install counting on the ability to make it run at the end. The fuel rail pressure sensor appears to be a small item to be solved for.

I'm looking for help on that solution.
 
there`s always a chance the new sensor is bad as well, wouldn`t be anywhere near the first sensor I`ve bought that was bad out of the box, you check the sensor before you installed it?

any chance the harness got chaffed while you were removing the old engine and installing the new engine? there was more than one TSB for more than one location on silverado`s and suburban`s for harness chaffing.

I had tires put on my truck last year and it picked it up with a check engine light and a few hours later running like shit, alignment guy barely moved the pcm harness by the upper control arm bolts and a couple chaffed wires started touching.
 
As for what makes his swap unique, it's still not been answered. I'm not saying I'm not wrong but we all know someone who's swapped a smaller "LS" for a larger one. Even from that timeframe.
Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Machine an adapter fitting to use the correct sensor seems like the easiest solution.
Yes, but you don't have to go that fancy.

NPKennny
My local hydraulic shop will make a custom flex line with the correct fittings on each end.
Uses the same stuff they use for grease guns.
 
Have you dug into what that 4th wire did? What's the difference in pinouts for that sensor, at the ECM? What year is the 6.6? They did some wonky changes across the same architecture.
 
Machine an adapter fitting to use the correct sensor seems like the easiest solution.

That might actually be a decent solution if the pressure ranges are the same. Somewhere like aaxion may even have a fitting.


Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Wouldn't be the first time i was wrong. Please teach me if you have the answer.
 
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