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libertarian mayor dismisses all traffic citations in mayor's court.

I like that she did it, but is it sustainable?
She also decriminalized marihuana in her city, which I'm all for.
I've considered myself a libertarian for some time, but whenever actual freedom is debated, people bring up the wild west.
I imagine she'll go too far too fast and this'll wind up being an example of why libertarian policies fail.
I think think dozens will love her, and thousands will vote her out next time.

Maybe she has a plan.

I'd think going a little slower, maybe reducing traffic fines, then making similar cuts to taxpayer spending would bring back the same principles, and make lasting changes, not a flash in the pan

she's got balls tho:usa:
 
except that under the ORC she can't do any of that.
fines are fixed by the county and state.
Funding is controlled by council.

but, under the ORC she has total control over the PD administration and the mayor's court.
so this is the only legal way to do it.
If she disbands the mayor's court then it will go to the county court.

I assure you that plymouth will not devolve into the wild west.
It's a town of about 2K people in rural ohio.
The PD isn't doing fuck all except writing tickets to people on 98 coming through town on the ridiculous 35 mph stretch of road that extends a mile passed any residential area.
I literally see them in the same place every time I drive through there to willard.
 
Any pics ??? :ghost:

Like the pork chops eh?

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I wonder what the write offs were for? Blowing a stop sign or speeding who give a shit. DUI/OWI and I may think twice about voting for her if I was there.
 
I wonder what the write offs were for? Blowing a stop sign or speeding who give a shit. DUI/OWI and I may think twice about voting for her if I was there.

They were all for alleged violations. No one written off was actually found guilty. :flipoff2:
 
I wonder what the write offs were for? Blowing a stop sign or speeding who give a shit. DUI/OWI and I may think twice about voting for her if I was there.

DUI is a criminal offense, not a traffic citation. I doubt those were dismissed.
 
except that under the ORC she can't do any of that.
fines are fixed by the county and state.
Funding is controlled by council.

but, under the ORC she has total control over the PD administration and the mayor's court.
so this is the only legal way to do it.
If she disbands the mayor's court then it will go to the county court.

I assure you that plymouth will not devolve into the wild west.
It's a town of about 2K people in rural ohio.
The PD isn't doing fuck all except writing tickets to people on 98 coming through town on the ridiculous 35 mph stretch of road that extends a mile passed any residential area.
I literally see them in the same place every time I drive through there to willard.

neat, and good on her
 
DUI is a criminal offense, not a traffic citation. I doubt those were dismissed.

Fair enough. I glanced at the article, but it was something that I really don't give a shit about one way or another.
 
I don't get it. libertarianism isn't about anarchy. Some traffic laws are needed to keep some sanity on public roads. Even my favorite law to hate (speeding) is reasonable for the most part. I could totally see dismissing all the seat belt tickets because seat belt laws are 100% invalid nonsense, but I can't think of another traffic law I'd say that about.

Now if she could dismiss all drug use offenses, and drug sales to non-minors, I'd be all for it. That's what libertarianism is all about.

And I'm kind of with everdouche (:()... Failure to use your turn signal or camping in the fast lane should get you shot on sight :D
 
the ohio supreme court head justice has even said that a mayor presiding over a court that directly funds their budget is an unconstitional conflict of interest, but nobody has ever taken it to them to be struck down.

In 333 towns throughout the state of Ohio, the mayor or his designee dispenses local justice. Ohio allows "Mayor's courts" to hear minor cases in towns that do not have their own municipal court. A mayor with legal training can preside over cases, otherwise he will delegate the responsibility to a lawyer. The vast majority of mayor's court cases -- over 84 percent -- are traffic tickets and about 86 percent of the time, the defendant is found guilty.

Ohio Supreme Court Chief Justice Thomas J. Moyer condemned this system in a May speech saying one man should never hold the executive power and serve as judge in the same city. "The Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals recognized the inherent conflict in a system that permits the person responsible for the fiscal well being of a community to use judicial powers to produce income that supports the well being," Justice Moyer said.

According to a Cincinnati Enquirer analysis released today, the top ten most successful mayors together brought in $2.3 million for their budget. Sharonville generated the most revenue at $378,740 and Reading generated $370,987.

A full copy of the Ohio Supreme Court investigation into mayor's courts is available in a 1.5mb PDF file below.
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/05/558.asp
 
I don't get it. libertarianism isn't about anarchy. Some traffic laws are needed to keep some sanity on public roads. Even my favorite law to hate (speeding) is reasonable for the most part. I could totally see dismissing all the seat belt tickets because seat belt laws are 100% invalid nonsense, but I can't think of another traffic law I'd say that about.

Now if she could dismiss all drug use offenses, and drug sales to non-minors, I'd be all for it. That's what libertarianism is all about.

And I'm kind of with everdouche (:()... Failure to use your turn signal or camping in the fast lane should get you shot on sight :D

Pretty much this. I have a dead neighbor over a blown stop sign.
 
Fair enough. I glanced at the article, but it was something that I really don't give a shit about one way or another.

That wasn't the highlight anyway. Libertarians are about personal responsibility, so a DUI should stick. Good on the mayor though for punting the chickenshit fundraising campaign that is traffic fines.
 
I could give two shits about legalizing marijuana but I still fail to see how anyone that holds a decent and or professional job can use it. They drug test you and you’re out in rehab or just gone. Then there you are working in a shit job cause you gotta have your weed. Puff puff puff. :flipoff2:
 
I could give two shits about legalizing marijuana but I still fail to see how anyone that holds a decent and or professional job can use it. They drug test you and you’re out in rehab or just gone. Then there you are working in a shit job cause you gotta have your weed. Puff puff puff. :flipoff2:

Those of us who work in jobs that don't include a name tag, hair net, or union membership often don't get tested at all. Besides, a surprisingly high number of extremely successful scientists I know (and work with) use the stuff. Just like drinking, most people have enough self control to not use it on the job.
 
Those of us who work in jobs that don't include a name tag, hair net, or union membership often don't get tested at all. Besides, a surprisingly high number of extremely successful scientists I know (and work with) use the stuff. Just like drinking, most people have enough self control to not use it on the job.

Right, and as soon as one of those workers has a job sight accident or in a company vehicle accident they’ll take a drug test. Ive no doubt while you think it’s ok, it’s against most company policies.

It’s their job to lose over doing something stupid. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I know the war on drugs is a losing battle but I don’t see how legalizing them helps anything. I’m talking stuff other then marijuana. All I see is additions, death, robberies, torn up family’s and basically a strain on society. It’s a cancer and it’s getting worse.
 
Right, and as soon as one of those workers has a job sight accident or in a company vehicle accident they’ll take a drug test. Ive no doubt while you think it’s ok, it’s against most company policies.

It’s their job to lose over doing something stupid. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I know the war on drugs is a losing battle but I don’t see how legalizing them helps anything. I’m talking stuff other then marijuana. All I see is additions, death, robberies, torn up family’s and basically a strain on society. It’s a cancer and it’s getting worse.

Nice goal post move. The fact is that many professionals use it regularly, just not at work. The world still revolves, and the sun still comes up.
 
I know the war on drugs is a losing battle but I don’t see how legalizing them helps anything. I’m talking stuff other then marijuana. All I see is additions, death, robberies, torn up family’s and basically a strain on society. It’s a cancer and it’s getting worse.

you just described the results of prohibition, not drug use.
 
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