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Let's say Covid conspiracies are in fact true

FJC11 said:
What relevance does that even have dip shit.
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That's exactly why I pointed it out as a straw man argument. He's beyond idiotic, as most trolls are. When an idiotic troll wants to start a "serious" thread, and then themselves devolve it immediately into a troll fest I believe it deserves to be called out, thank you for joining me. Let's see if this can be a lesson in why trolls can't have nice things :mad3:
 
dntsdad said:
Again, what science definitively shows that the "vaccines" are effective at slowing the spread of Covid. It's a pretty simple question for someone that had read peer review studies assumingly on the only really issue that matters.......stopping the spread via vaccines.

Thats where you are wrong. EVERYONE on the planet cares. It is just that nobody cares for political bullshit.

Show me the studies and the "science".
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All over the respective threads. Masks, Vaccines, mRNA...

Agreed on the politics.
Provience said:
Nobody cares, same as you dismissed so much information and peer reviewed studies over the past 2 years regarding this. Because you don't care.

How the fuck can you troll this shit for 2 years and pretend like you are half serious and just don't understand? You've been dismissing this shit for too long.

So, what, we are supposed to re spoon feed you 2 fucking years of discussion so that you can talk to a family member? Wtf :shaking:
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Stay on topic, read the thread title.
 
ev13wt said:
All over the respective threads. Masks, Vaccines, mRNA...

Agreed on the politics.


Stay on topic, read the thread title.
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You are full of shit. Your family is probably correct. You are full of shit.

I will ask you once more. Show me the "science" that the "vaccines" stop the spread of covid or shut the fuck up

There are none. Zero. Zilch. The reason you won't post them is because they do not exist.

Meanwhile, we are stomping on freedoms and people are literally losing their life's work, careers, etc. for a bullshit political game of controling masses of people.

There is NO science that supports anything to do with a shot stopping the spread of Covid.

Fuck. Off. Die.
 
TanTJJim said:
You have a mountain of ignorance so I'm sure there will be plenty to be learned.

And have you ever heard of the story "The Boy who Cried Wolf"? There's a lesson that those of us with some level of intelligence learned. Troll on troll, I'm sure it will serve you well.
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You see I am not here to change my stance. I am asking about the end game of conspiracy theories.

From flat earth to Kennedy to 9/11 to whatever, they all lead up to some elite controlling the world. Usually Rothschilds or some other jews. It's kind of repetitive.

Before the internet I had access to "secret banned books". All of them had the same ending. See above.

It's to be dismissed on those grounds alone.

The strongest overall finish first. The end. There is no conspiracy. Cause and effect rule.
 
As far as the thread title, there are no conspiracies.

That is what people like you and that side call people that resist and want actual proof. People like you go along with the narrative with not a care and trust the government and "science". Then you are, once again, flabbergasted when you were lied to.

Rinse and repeat. Every. Fucking. Time.
 
ev13wt, I'm quite sure you're very confident in all of your opinions.
 
dntsdad said:
As far as the thread title, there are no conspiracies.

That is what people like you and that side call people that resist and want actual proof. People like you go along with the narrative with not a care and trust the government and "science". Then you are, once again, flabbergasted when you were lied to.

Rinse and repeat. Every. Fucking. Time.
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I don't know, science makes this conversation possible...

So there's that...

Government is a crap shot. I think a strong, smart, good hearted single ruler could well be the best form of government at this point
 
ev13wt said:
I don't know, science makes this conversation possible...

So there's that...

Government is a crap shot. I think a strong, smart, good hearted single ruler could well be the best form of government at this point
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Acknowledging that is a completely insane reality full of tyranny, why not settle for minimizing the grip of others over you instead of actively supporting what seems to be the worst possible option: huge control handed over to a beuracracy chasing the lowest common denominator.

"I'd love this one thing, but instead I'm going to work hard for the exact opposite"....fuck off.

End game. Trillions spent to the point that trillion isn't even a shocking number anymore, in any one country. Unfathomable amounts of money and control globally. So unthinkinkable that it is easily dismissed of all things.


And you don't believe it because you don't see some grand scheme ? :lmao: fuck off
 
No end game is needed, that is just a fantasy to keep the outliers against you spinning and distracted. Look at the dammed reality of it
 
ev13wt said:
That is correct.
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Thank you for confirming my suspicions. You'll never understand this so I'm really only speaking to others who are reading this thread, but most intelligent people question their opinions as it usually causes them to seek knowledge and possibly understanding.

Stupid people, on the other hand, are often quite confident in their opinions. Willfully ignorant people, such as yourself, typically seek information that aligns precisely with their opinion only for the purpose of reinforcing it and possibly boosting their ego and perceived level of intelligence. Congratulations, you have achieved exactly what you seek!
 
Provience said:
And you don't believe it because you don't see some grand scheme ? :lmao: fuck off
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He is the scheme. An army of angry disgruntled useless idiots that will swallow whatever is fed to them.

Hell, he just advocated for a unilateral ruler.

Thats the end game. Not some basement in a pizza parlor, but an ignorant populace that will do as they are told, be good little boys and girls on their Facebook and tic toks, giving their data to poppa gov, and being the cog in the machine of control.

Why aint anyone really reporting on the ghislaine maxwell trial?
 
rugger said:
Wait....how many people are on your race team? Were all 4 vaxxed? Race teams that I've been on were sub 30 members. 4 out of 30 would be huge especially since most are young and health except for XtremeJ. He's old and healthy. :flipoff2:
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4 less now. 2 of them weren't currently racing with us, but they are still family.
 
ev13wt said:
I don't know, science makes this conversation possible...

So there's that...

Government is a crap shot. I think a strong, smart, good hearted single ruler could well be the best form of government at this point
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I am not sure that anyone actually knows the "science" of this thing anymore.

I am not against science changing.....it should. But changing definitions of vaccine, and jabbing kids that are statistically immune already is NOT science.

This is a power grab, and very few times in history have those in power positions given it up. Lives are being fucking destroyed, on top of the lives that have already been destroyed, with the mandates, lockdowns, jabs, etc.

Anyone who still believes that this is a pandemic like those seen on TV and in movies and something to be feared outside the .05% that have other shit going on with them...............well fuck them.
 
Toreadorranger said:
If we want to put our tin foil hats on and think about conspiracy theories, Its much more likely that Covid would be a "false flag". Make it just bad enough that people will listen to the Gov about getting vaccinated, but have the next virus on standby. The vax for Covid contains the vax for the next virus as well. Then when you release the really bad one, the people who "opposed" the government are the ones mostly affected and killed off. Thus you are left with the people who the Gov considers controllable.
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That assumes the last point made by the OP is true.
 
ev13wt said:
What is the endgame?

  • all the covid measures are orders of magnitude more costly for the economy than some big pharma win
  • government losing a ton of tax money due to lockdowns and having to pay citizens money - something governments REALLY love doing...
  • controlling the population? It's not a new thing, there are way better tools than a fabricated pandemic to do something.
  • killing off a majority of the population - makes no sense to release a weak ass virus that only affects a tiny fraction of humanity (1, 2, 3 %) or a vaccine that kills even less (0.1,2,3%) (Or combined, let's say VAERS DB is all vaccine deaths it's still a tiny fraction of humanity)
  • not killing the people that ARE in fact a danger to the government cause they are NOT doing the follow sheep thing.
  • how are 270 governments that mostly hate each other or actually engage in a war of any sort with each other suddenly able to conspire?


Serious question. We could debate the single points endlessly, but that is a futile effort and always ends in wasted time. What is the endgame?
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Remove the right to vote, current leadership forever appoints a leader, and poor people are handed money until poor people are made into rich people who have to pay for poor people to become rich people.
 
ev13wt said:
Sweden is the standard answer because they were doing so well. But in time they implemented measures as well. And they will again, as this wave is "creeping north". Also, Sweden is full of people that stay away from each other and don't talk to "strangers". It's lovely there.

"Africa" would be the actual thing to look at. Seems they are doing pretty great. Of course, no tests no cases and all that, but still.
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Africa eats ivermectin and HCQ like it's candy. Have been for decades.

Study what happened to India when they handed out a covid pill pack for prevention and treatment, that could be made for $2.50 a pack. There's currently a state in India with 251 million people, last I saw they had 199 active cases. Just think on that a minute.

We could end this pandemic in the USA if the government and Fauci really wanted to. But they don't. That's the conspiracy here, Keep the scare going, keep the population compliant, blame the turn to communism on covid.

The best example is the legions of parents rushing out to get a 5 year old a gene therapy vaccine that doesn't prevent them from getting covid, likely causes myocarditis in cases where there are side effects, and people can't wait to stick that needle in their kids arm. This is a virus that hospitalized and killed less kids than the seasonal flu in that age group.

Talk to actual doctors. Not some TV Doc Fauci who killed off Aids patients in the 80s with a forced drug that didn't work.
 
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt...

I'm not a 'conspiracy theorist' in the manner that you are referring to, and I don't see the evidence of the MCU 'HYDRA' supervillian that many refer to.
This is a simple case of "not letting a crisis go to waste".

I believe, WITH EVIDENCE, that the virus originated from the Wuhan lab (whether natural or human-enhanced) , sometime back in October '19.
I believe, WITH EVIDENCE, that the CCP did what they could to cover it up, because they didn't want to look like the irresponsible commies that they are.
I believe, WITH EVIDENCE, that they were assisted in this by the WHO and many in the scientific community in the west. They did it mostly for self-preservation as they knew they fucked up.
I believe, WITH EVIDENCE, that once many of the socialist, total-government leaders in the western world realized that there was no stopping this, it is a great opportunity to get a little, or a lot more control, and centralize more of their power.
I believe, WITH EVIDENCE, that the severity of this disease was met with much harsher governmental countermeasures than it warranted to serve the above purpose.
I believe, WITH EVIDENCE, that once the general population began to understand that it wasn't as bad as advertised, that is when the harsher measures were rolled out to 'gas-light' as much of the public could be.
I believe, WITH EVIDENCE, that there are many entities with many agendas operating in the public space today that benefit from this manufactured chaos; media for ratings, politicians for their own re-election, companies like Amazon and Pfizer for the funds that will make their way to their accounts, and many others.

To the conspiracy theory part of this: There's no 'conspiracy'. There are multiple entities that have something to gain from this. Sometimes they work parallel to each other and makes it seem like it's coordinated. Sometimes they are working at cross-purposes. I don't think the endgame for:
The CCP
The pharmaceutical companies
National governments
The Builderbergs/Gates-Clinton-whatever foundations/public-private whatever partnerships
The media
is the same one. All of them have priorities, and they all don't necessarily align. I don't think there is
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^^^THIS level of coordination for a conspiracy. If there was, considering the amount of 'smart' people involved, those who maybe aren't 'genius' level IQ and have jobs and families to attend to on the daily just to survive wouldn't have been able to see through it the way they have.

This is not to say I don't think there is nothing to see, far from it. It's more like
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And we all know how that worked out.

Ultimately, when the experts are trusted blindly, and the solutions always require more control and less freedom, then you know we are headed in the wrong direction.

There is no conspiracy, it's all out in the open, they suck at it, and if all the entities who are trying to grasp power are ever able to get a firm hold on it do, then it will end as badly as it always does. They suck this bad at trying to get it, think of how bad they will suck if they ever do. BTW, if it reaches the 'endgame', it's gonna look like Special Olympics Game of Thrones once their interests diverge.

Personal note: It's natural to be concerned with your baby, I understand the position you are in. I have a 3.5mo old one right now. Everyone in the house has had COVID recently, the baby never even noticed it. Mom wasn't vaccinated when she was pregnant, she's not vaccinated now, not until she's done breast-feeding. I understand your concern for the baby, but as someone who seems to study the figures on such things, if it reassures you, please look at the stats on children under 1yo worldwide. You will find you have nothing to worry about. Trust me, this is #4 for me, there are more pressing and immediate dangers you need to be concerned with. Keep you and the missus healthy, baby will be just fine. Make sure you are taking the more likely reasons for harm to come to the baby into account, disease and otherwise. Please don't put all your focus in caring for your little one on COVID if it means ignoring the more immediate dangers. Influenza has historically killed a lot of babies, so has pools and leaving too many blankets in a crib.

Congrats on the New Addition! I mean that. Babies make you better, enjoy it while it lasts, it never lasts long enough.
 
Texas97 said:
Africa eats ivermectin and HCQ like it's candy. Have been for decades.

Study what happened to India when they handed out a covid pill pack for prevention and treatment, that could be made for $2.50 a pack. There's currently a state in India with 251 million people, last I saw they had 199 active cases. Just think on that a minute.

We could end this pandemic in the USA if the government and Fauci really wanted to. But they don't. That's the conspiracy here, Keep the scare going, keep the population compliant, blame the turn to communism on covid.

The best example is the legions of parents rushing out to get a 5 year old a gene therapy vaccine that doesn't prevent them from getting covid, likely causes myocarditis in cases where there are side effects, and people can't wait to stick that needle in their kids arm. This is a virus that hospitalized and killed less kids than the seasonal flu in that age group.

Talk to actual doctors. Not some TV Doc Fauci who killed off Aids patients in the 80s with a forced drug that didn't work.
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Quite possibly the most intelligent post ever on the internet
 
flexy flatty said:
I don’t believe in a grand conspiracy, I look at it more like a massive runaway overreaction like an out of control nuclear meltdown. Government overstated the deadliness of the virus when it first emerged, the general public got all worked up and scared and looked to the government to be their protective daddy during a time of crisis, then as it turns out to be about an order of magnitude less deadly than initially stated it’s too late to roll things back because half the population gets off on all of the quasi-war-time propaganda of “be a hero, stay home” and “we’re all in this together” in addition to still being terrified of the virus to a level that is disproportionate to the threat. Politicians then take ideological sides and pander to those people using selective data to inflate statistics and misdirect rather than admitting that the initial reaction was too strong.

Now you throw in heavy handed vaccine mandates based significantly on runaway political theatre combined with a strong public disdain towards anyone who questions the government narrative (as if history shows that blindly following the gov elite is ever a positive for the common people) and you end up with a very sizable and angry portion of the population, some of whom are susceptible to wild ideas of grand conspiracies. It’s not a major stretch.
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Correct. On the lethality of covid alone the fact that they keeps going on and on about how contagious it was, but then ”many people are asymptomatic, or have very mild symptoms.” My cousin and BIL both tested positive for antibodies, never had any idea they were “sick”. Wife and I had very mild but similar symptoms of both OG Covid and Delta.

I’d wager there were nearly 10x as many “cases” as they reported, which means if they say the fatality rate is 0.1%, it’s really 0.01%. There are a bunch of people that never wore masks, never stopped hanging out with large groups of people, and never got “sick” even when numbers were peaking everywhere.
 
Gatorgrizz27 said:
Correct. On the lethality of covid alone the fact that they keeps going on and on about how contagious it was, but then ”many people are asymptomatic, or have very mild symptoms.” My cousin and BIL both tested positive for antibodies, never had any idea they were “sick”. Wife and I had very mild but similar symptoms of both OG Covid and Delta.

I’d wager there were nearly 10x as many “cases” as they reported, which means if they say the fatality rate is 0.1%, it’s really 0.01%. There are a bunch of people that never wore masks, never stopped hanging out with large groups of people, and never got “sick” even when numbers were peaking everywhere.
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And why aren't the natural immune boosters like Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Zinc and Magnesium being pushed for everyone?

Hint: they want us sick and the only cure is in the shot (which isn't working)
 
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