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Let's say Covid conspiracies are in fact true

ev13wt

ev13wt

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What is the endgame?

  • all the covid measures are orders of magnitude more costly for the economy than some big pharma win
  • government losing a ton of tax money due to lockdowns and having to pay citizens money - something governments REALLY love doing...
  • controlling the population? It's not a new thing, there are way better tools than a fabricated pandemic to do something.
  • killing off a majority of the population - makes no sense to release a weak ass virus that only affects a tiny fraction of humanity (1, 2, 3 %) or a vaccine that kills even less (0.1,2,3%) (Or combined, let's say VAERS DB is all vaccine deaths it's still a tiny fraction of humanity)
  • not killing the people that ARE in fact a danger to the government cause they are NOT doing the follow sheep thing.
  • how are 270 governments that mostly hate each other or actually engage in a war of any sort with each other suddenly able to conspire?


Serious question. We could debate the single points endlessly, but that is a futile effort and always ends in wasted time. What is the endgame?
 
If we want to put our tin foil hats on and think about conspiracy theories, Its much more likely that Covid would be a "false flag". Make it just bad enough that people will listen to the Gov about getting vaccinated, but have the next virus on standby. The vax for Covid contains the vax for the next virus as well. Then when you release the really bad one, the people who "opposed" the government are the ones mostly affected and killed off. Thus you are left with the people who the Gov considers controllable.
 
Or while we are on Conspiracy theories, The Gov needed to "perfect" facial recognition software for future identification purposes (Say civil war or revolution), so they needed the country to put on masks to accomplish this
 
further taking away our right making it easier to control us and we give it to them in the guise of safety. what we have now was happening for decades but if you’re need a few recent examples, the patriot act comes to mind, pretty much any gun law, now they’re trying to push though this mandate to save us all.

killing off the population that’s suppose to support you isn’t a great idea in the long run but if you can make them extra scared and beg for help, they’ll give you more power.
 
Stubs gets it.

Then let's go further and divide our great melting pot of a country into segments and use the media spewing fear from statistics that are constantly tweaked to break people into groups that hate each other.

People treated strangers pretty well before Obama came along stirring up shit.

Divide and conquer, straight out of the playbook
 
Killing off a majority of the population? Better check them numbers because even the inflated numbers are under 2%. 🤦

Just look at who is making money off of the event and you'll see what the end deal is. Politicians are greatly invested in every company that's making an absolute killing right now. Inflation is rising so the dollar has less value so they are making more dollars. Now get shit under control in 6 months to a year and bring inflation down and suddenly they go from rich to fucking rich due to volume of dollars.

It's plain as day to some of us and an impossible scenario to others but I bet those of us that can see it are right.
 
Toreadorranger said:
Or while we are on Conspiracy theories, The Gov needed to "perfect" facial recognition software for future identification purposes (Say civil war or revolution), so they needed the country to put on masks to accomplish this
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This is already in place. A person's identity can be detected by eyes and gait. What's more identifiable than the way a person walks? That's one that is difficult to mask for any period of time.

As for the other "experiment". I think that we're already at the point where they would have stopped encouraging people to get vaxxed if there was another virus to release.
 
Lilyota said:
What's wrong?








Lonely...Bored?
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Family issues about this subject.

ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Did you just admit this virus hardly effects anybody and the .govs reaction has been hugely overblown? More damage has been done by the lockdowns and mandates than the damage done by the virus.
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Data is data and facts are facts.
I don't know how it would have played out without ANY "measures".
As I always said: I err on the side of caution.
 
Toreadorranger said:
If we want to put our tin foil hats on and think about conspiracy theories, Its much more likely that Covid would be a "false flag". Make it just bad enough that people will listen to the Gov about getting vaccinated, but have the next virus on standby. The vax for Covid contains the vax for the next virus as well. Then when you release the really bad one, the people who "opposed" the government are the ones mostly affected and killed off. Thus you are left with the people who the Gov considers controllable.
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At least this is a logical thought process.
 
Bamajeeper said:
I am ignorant about what that means. Please elaborate.
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Sweden is the standard answer because they were doing so well. But in time they implemented measures as well. And they will again, as this wave is "creeping north". Also, Sweden is full of people that stay away from each other and don't talk to "strangers". It's lovely there.

"Africa" would be the actual thing to look at. Seems they are doing pretty great. Of course, no tests no cases and all that, but still.
 
DWT said:
Killing off a majority of the population? Better check them numbers because even the inflated numbers are under 2%. 🤦

Just look at who is making money off of the event and you'll see what the end deal is. Politicians are greatly invested in every company that's making an absolute killing right now. Inflation is rising so the dollar has less value so they are making more dollars. Now get shit under control in 6 months to a year and bring inflation down and suddenly they go from rich to fucking rich due to volume of dollars.

It's plain as day to some of us and an impossible scenario to others but I bet those of us that can see it are right.
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There may be several things at play, but this is definitely one of them.

Company revenues (only Covid related):

Pfizer (2021 projected) - $26B
Moderna (2021 projected) - $22B
Johnson & Johnson (2021 projected) -$23B

Those are just Covid vaccine sales. The people that were in the know early are all heavily invested in those companies. I believe that Pfizer is the 6th largest held stock by our Congress people.
 
ev13wt said:
As I always said: I err on the side of caution.
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maybe you do, maybe you don't.

You seem to let "caution" be defined by the most extreme in government... and then attack people who don't agree with your view.

That's not really the side of caution for most people
 
rugger said:
There may be several things at play, but this is definitely one of them.

Company revenues (only Covid related):

Pfizer (2021 projected) - $26B
Moderna (2021 projected) - $22B
Johnson & Johnson (2021 projected) -$23B

Those are just Covid vaccine sales. The people that were in the know early are all heavily invested in those companies. I believe that Pfizer is the 6th largest held stock by our Congress people.
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Yup and who do they hang out with? Bezos, Soros, Zuckerberg, gates and the other top shareholders of Microsoft etc etc etc.

They start as normal people and get a reasonable income while in .gov positions but come out as millionaires. Watch in 5 years when we have billionaires coming out of those same positions.
 
Projectjunkie said:
Stubs gets it.

Then let's go further and divide our great melting pot of a country into segments and use the media spewing fear from statistics that are constantly tweaked to break people into groups that hate each other.

People treated strangers pretty well before Obama came along stirring up shit.

Divide and conquer, straight out of the playbook
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I remember in high school, the early 90s, one had to be in some group already. Jocks, Geeks, Punks, Skateboarders. I bet it's been like that much longer.
I think this indoctrinated propaganda instilled group think and "always have an enemy" predates Obaba by a long time.
 
rockota said:
maybe you do, maybe you don't.

You seem to let "caution" be defined by the most extreme in government... and then attack people who don't agree with your view.

That's not really the side of caution for most people
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Well no, I read all sides, I went into all rabbit holes. There is no algorithm keeping my echo-bubble alive, I find my bubbles.
I decided to trust science. Also, with a newborn without much of an immune system, I was even more careful.

I also think many measures were "knee jerk reactions", but that was to be expected - I feel the government has absolutely zero clue what it is doing and it shows. How can they master plan anything if they can't even keep a straight face for two weeks?
 
Bamajeeper said:
I am ignorant about what that means. Please elaborate.
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Sweden and a few other countries said fuck the lockdowns, return to normal life around summer - end of summer time. Feel free to observe their vaccination/infection/death rates compared to other countries and you can draw your own conclusions.
 
rugger said:
There may be several things at play, but this is definitely one of them.

Company revenues (only Covid related):

Pfizer (2021 projected) - $26B
Moderna (2021 projected) - $22B
Johnson & Johnson (2021 projected) -$23B

Those are just Covid vaccine sales. The people that were in the know early are all heavily invested in those companies. I believe that Pfizer is the 6th largest held stock by our Congress people.
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Well ok, stock owned by politicians I can see that just a bit. People are assholes looking for personal gain.

On the numbers: The COVID-19 Pandemic and the $16 Trillion Virus
The COVID-19 Pandemic and the $16 Trillion Virus

Even if it's only an estimate, Trillions is always bigger than billions.
 
rugger said:
There may be several things at play, but this is definitely one of them.

Company revenues (only Covid related):

Pfizer (2021 projected) - $26B
Moderna (2021 projected) - $22B
Johnson & Johnson (2021 projected) -$23B

Those are just Covid vaccine sales. The people that were in the know early are all heavily invested in those companies. I believe that Pfizer is the 6th largest held stock by our Congress people.
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For all the tax the rich where is the tax the profits of this magic drug . Because it is being mandated there should be a 90% tax on the profits correct? :lmao:

Oh wait they are just padding the pockets of the Congress critter.
 
Crimsen said:
Sweden and a few other countries said fuck the lockdowns, return to normal life around summer - end of summer time. Feel free to observe their vaccination/infection/death rates compared to other countries and you can draw your own conclusions.
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As I said, right now that EU Wave is creeping north through Germany, with some Bavarian (South) town having an "incidence" of 1300+, Hessen (middle) around 300, and North Germany it's "nonexistent" with an incidence of 50 or something.

Sweden is waaaay up there. Let's revisit "Sweden" in 4 weeks.
 
ev13wt said:
Well ok, stock owned by politicians I can see that just a bit. People are assholes looking for personal gain.

On the numbers: The COVID-19 Pandemic and the $16 Trillion Virus
The COVID-19 Pandemic and the $16 Trillion Virus

Even if it's only an estimate, Trillions is always bigger than billions.
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Which was all caused by the .gov. The game was up as soon as the fraud fauci said 10% of us were gonna die.
 
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