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Let the fun begin, .30 Herrett

DVanVorous

DVanVorous

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So...anyone else fiddle with single shot pistol like the T/C or is that just an old farts idea of fun plinking at stuff 50-100yds away with a pistol?
Ended up getting optics cuz old eyes couldn't deal with the peep any longer. This is an early model (1976) so not eze open. 14" barrel in .30 Herrett. 24 gr IMR 4227 makes a 110gr HP scoot...125 gr for deer.

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There is a company making .30 Herrett AR uppers. They are using converted 6.8 SPC cases.
 
DVanVorous said:
So...anyone else fiddle with single shot pistol like the T/C or is that just an old farts idea of fun plinking at stuff 50-100yds away with a pistol?
Ended up getting optics cuz old eyes couldn't deal with the peep any longer. This is an early model (1976) so not eze open. 14" barrel in .30 Herrett. 24 gr IMR 4227 makes a 110gr HP scoot...125 gr for deer.
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I don't yet, but I am well on my way to old man guns. I love big bore revolvers, and I used to love reading about old dudes cooking up loads for those TC's.

What was the guys name who used to have an old oil rig machine shop his dad built in the 50's and 60's? The dude's dad died @ ~95 or so. He was big into TC's and then there was the guy Steve R who lived in Montana and had a shit ton of load data. He eventually died and a friend took over his website.

EDIT: Steve RIchardelli? Something like that.
 
Just to be conversational, my step-dad had a TC Contender in 30-30 Win. with a Leupold gold ring. Spent more money on it than he made. Used to compete in silhouette matches. Had to be in the late '70's, early '80's, IIRC. Mom took it to a pawn shop right after he moved out, prolly got $100. Same for his early SP-1. She was a vindictive bitch...

He never let me shoot it.
 
Aisin said:
There is a company making .30 Herrett AR uppers. They are using converted 6.8 SPC cases.
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Actually theres a couple...plus a couple that make actions. Reason being that S&W bought out Thompson Center, closed the doors and quit building...

Bullberry, SSK, Haus of Arms, BellM and MGM come to mind if my recollectors working properly.
 
Aisin said:
There is a company making .30 Herrett AR uppers. They are using converted 6.8 SPC cases.
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Theres tad bit difference twixt the AR and the TC Herrett, I use .30-30 or .375 rimmed cases for both the .30 and .357 Herrett I reload.

The AR platform isn't exactly a Herrett as the 6.8 SPC is rimless so Herrett in name only. Basically someone is using the Herrett name...Steve Herrett died in 1985, so possibly a relative.
 
DVanVorous said:
Theres tad bit difference twixt the AR and the TC Herrett, I use .30-30 or .375 rimmed cases for both the .30 and .357 Herrett I reload.

The AR platform isn't exactly a Herrett as the 6.8 SPC is rimless so Herrett in name only. Basically someone is using the Herrett name...Steve Herrett died in 1985, so possibly a relative.
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I did find this. It’s called .30 HRT. Short for Herrett rimless tactical.

AR15BARRELS.COM - 30 HRT

30 HRT Cartridge Details
ar15barrels.com
 
I have the same setup that I picked up recently. I’ve got a little bit of brass and no dies. I’d prefer it to be in 7,62x39 with the proper bore to hammer surplus through it.
I’ve been passively looking for a cheap set of dies, but I really don’t want to get into another caliber. I’d rather have a .22 barrel 10” and threaded.
I also have a .308 Encore pistol, .308 SSP-91 and a Competition Corp in 7,62x39. For the latter, I have a .17 MachIV barrel and die set that I’d trade for a .308 barrel. You never know unless you ask.:smokin:
 
Aisin said:
I did find this. It’s called .30 HRT. Short for Herrett rimless tactical.

AR15BARRELS.COM - 30 HRT

30 HRT Cartridge Details
ar15barrels.com
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From your link...and for folks intrigued. .30 HRT is a 6.8 SPC bumped to .30 cal with the same shoulder used on the .30 Herrett using .30 Herrett dies. So its Herrett in name only...compliments of using .30 Herrett dies to do the forming operations.



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" ...The 30 Herrett originated as the product of Steve Herrett and Bob Milek in 1972 for chambering in Thompson/Center pistols. Cases for the 30 Herrett are formed from 30-30 Winchester cases. ..."

"... The 30 HRT is a very simple wildcat based on the 6.8 Remington SPC and 30 Herrett.
For all the people that wondered why 6.8 SPC was a 27 caliber instead of a 30, this is your cartridge.
If you want something with more oomph than a 300x221, this is the answer.
30 HRT is easily formed by full length sizing 6.8 SPC brass in a 30 Herrett die.
Then you simply load using 30 Herrett dies.
It is not available in featherweight or lightweight barrel profiles.
30 HRT uses 6.8 SPC magazines available from PRI.
30 HRT uses a 6.8 SPC sized bolt head."

From the pic, the intent was to bump the shoulder along with upsizing the neck. I'd be interested in what the case OAL might be as the 2 look real similar in length. I might also be interested in how available the 6.8 brass is if I were reloading it... RCBS and Hornady still peddle .30 Herrett dies so that's not a hassle. The other Q I might ask is reload info availability in current manuals. I'm a tad leary of internet info on the subject for good reason...too many nimrods posting dangerous/misinformed info.

Handy part in all of this for the reloader is that it uses .30 slugs instead of the .27 as with the 6.8 so one can minimise the type slugs in inventory, the downside is that its a wildcat and most tend to die on the vine after the "newness" wears off, and the "big boys" like Remchester come up with the the lastest new and improved after a nod from Guns and Ammo magazine...
 
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There's just something about a Contender that makes guys stuff really weird things in them.

I shot them in 7-30 Waters, all sorts of pistol calibers, and never have I seen one with a full butt stock.
 
Chevy_man said:
There's just something about a Contender that makes guys stuff really weird things in them.

I shot them in 7-30 Waters, all sorts of pistol calibers, and never have I seen one with a full butt stock.
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Rounds like the Herretts and TC/U were developed specifically because someone had a wild hair to get better results when hunting or more commonly in pistol Silhouette shoots. As example look at the .30-30 in comparison to the Herrett performance...

If one were to meander over to the book of faces and join the Thompson Center group one would see a plethora of full stock, brake or sound deadeners attached. Along with a few yahoos that think shooting .45-70 thru one is a pussy round..

The unfortunate part is that T/C was bought by S&W who closed the doors. Because of the popularity of the geometry of the Contender and Encore a few independents took up the banner so one can still buy hardware. Course that doesn't help some of the other platforms TC had before the buyout...
 
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