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Laser Interferometer for mill adjustment

Duc

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The rabbit hole was made a little deeper last week with the purchase off a Laser Interferometer DIY kit off ebay. The seller Sam was very responsive to questions and fine tuning the kit to my needs. This will be a Interferometer using a Two-frequency laser setup.

Requirements
1. Ability to upgrade the system to multiple axis down the road
2. Enough power to measure a Fadal 8030 for a buddy.

In short order he had a system listed on ebay with a high power laser and 9mm beam size for a decent price of $1,430 with 2 day shipping. I was itching for something to do over the 4 day weekend.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/303500535042?hash=item46aa0aa502:g:9r4AAOSwsTxgQ-Wt

Instruction manuals for kit
https://www.repairfaq.org/sam/manuals/hobspcl1.htm

The kit arrived early Friday morning. Bag of parts and one laser.
Bare board.jpg


Board setup.JPG

Not a real difficult system to solder together. You will need a fine tip soldering iron and some patience. I only purchased the board parts for 1 axis but the remaining axis's would be cheap.

The next part caused me about 1.5 days of frustration trying to get the system running. After soldering the board together I accidentally wiped the firmware on the controller board when doing a power on test and had to reloaded the file. Sam had everything posted on his website for the firmware and instructions how to load it. Reloaded the file just fine but I was unable to get the system running after aligning the lasers. I'll give Sam credit for the quick responses about the problem. We exchanged over 35 emails in the last two days trying to figure out what the problem was. Multiple signal checks using a DMM and Oscilloscope resulted in us scratching our heads. In the end we found the firmware on the website was corrupt and he was able to send a working one over. Guess I was the first to blow away the preloaded firmware. He has uploaded the correct one to the website now. Gold Star to me :lmao:

I've uploaded some pictures of the test setup. The hydraulic table is limiting my ability to get everything level and adjusted perfectly. Now that I have the system running I will be purchasing some additional hardware to make the setup easier. I was able to set the backlash on the middle and positive end of the Y axis but need to adjust hydraulic table before completing full motion.

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Items to buy to improve setup
  1. Rigid tripod
  2. Magnetic optical mount for inside the mill
  3. Aluminum mounting plate versus the 1in steel one.
  4. Foam for my pelican case.
  5. Lab jack or build a mount for the laser interferometer mirror and optical reciever

Accuracy of the system should be no issue as the display shows. I only somewhat under the principles behind the science but overall the system will have no issues measuring .00001. Even rolling my chair near the setup causes a change in measurement.
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Few extra links for learning
Renishaw XL10 page
https://www.renishaw.com/en/interferometry-explained--7854

Sam's link. Way above my head for most things. Massive archive of laser info.
https://www.repairfaq.org/sam/laserfaq.htm#faqtoc
 
Took a small video showing the mill stepping thru a program and the laser response


Dam backlash on the thrust washer wont go lower than 3.5 thou so I probably need to pull that again.
 
What does it do? I'm more of a +- 0.125" on most of my stuff
 
What does it do? I'm more of a +- 0.125" on most of my stuff
Flicken laser! to measure the travel. Mills that get used in one spot a lot will wear the ball screw in that spot giving you more slop there. You can adjust for this in the control. The laser gives an accurate measurement that you can use to adjust it.
 
Flicken laser! to measure the travel. Mills that get used in one spot a lot will wear the ball screw in that spot giving you more slop there. You can adjust for this in the control. The laser gives an accurate measurement that you can use to adjust it.
helps the back out also so I dont need to bend over to read the indicator or worry that Im going to crush it. :lmao:
 
The tolerance is incredible too.

My question is, if you are using the laser to compensate for a worn ballscrew, how do you prevent the table from shifting when cutting along that axis in multiple directions? For example, table travels along in X- to position, verified with the laser to a millionth. Take one pass also in the X- direction, table stays against the screw nut, where it drove the table. Take a cut X+, slop is going the other direction, so you've got some wiggle room. Laser would see a shift, machine would assume no movement, part is cut wrong.

Surely the table would shift as cutting forces drive the table into the slop, no? It's an issue on my Bridgeport, but not sure how bad it can get on those big ball screw machines.
 
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