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Jenna Marbles hit Meta Stage of White Guilt

I'm only familiar with her name because she appeared on an episode of Ridiculousness. She seemed incredibly annoying.
 
SomeGuy said:
What's interesting is up here in Canada, we're all just Canadians. I've never heard someone say Asian-Canadian. They either say Asian or Canadian, typically which one depends on if they have Canadian citizenship.
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Quebec???? You Fkn liar!!!!!
 
TRINDU said:
You seem to be the resident expect on cancel culture. Is it the premise to rewrite or shame someone/something out of existence is its offensive? How does one fight back?

I'm doing my part with a Confederate flag mask and not limiting my vocabulary.
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"if you can give them some clear moral argument and emotional support for opposing this stuff and for taking the hit, because they are going to have to take a hit for opposing the [ideological] mob....then i think you are doing good" - at about the 1:34:00 mark. if nothing else it plants the seed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvslc-WLMhg&t=3749s

this video/podcast is long, but a really interesting conversation between a gal who wrote a book about how she ended up married to a jihadist and a reformed SJW leader. if you have the time to let it run even in the background, check it out. it does an excellent job of getting in to the finer points of the meme below and exploring how this relationship can even exist and why.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/s...acist-past/ar-BB1743Tl?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds

this is as good a thread as any to add this too. a couple weeks ago, the Sierra Club (may they rot in fire), made national headlines for claiming that the national parks system is an embodiment of white supremacy. If that wasn't enough, now they are going to tackle their "is confronting its racist, white supremacist history, which was embodied in the group's famous founder, John Muir."

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statement released Wednesday, the 128-year-old organization said "as defenders of Black life pull down Confederate monuments across the country, it’s time to take down some of our own monuments, starting with some truth-telling about the Sierra Club’s early history."
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Brune details how the "beloved" and "iconic" Muir "was not immune to the racism peddled by many in the early conservation movement. He (Muir) made derogatory comments about Black people and Indigenous peoples that drew on deeply harmful racist stereotypes."

For example, Muir called African Americans lazy "Sambos" and referred to Native Americans as "dirty."

Other early Sierra Club members and leaders – like Joseph LeConte and David Starr Jordan – were vocal advocates for white supremacy and its pseudo-scientific arm, eugenics, the statement said.

Jordan pushed for forced-sterilization laws and programs that deprived tens of thousands of women of their right to bear children – mostly Black, Latina, Indigenous, and poor women, and those with disabilities and mental illness.

Muir’s words and actions still carry an especially heavy weight, as they "continue to hurt and alienate Indigenous people and people of color who come into contact with the Sierra Club," Brune wrote.

“Such willful ignorance is what allows some people to shut their eyes to the reality that the wild places we love are also the ancestral homelands of Native peoples, forced off their lands in the decades or centuries before they became national parks,” the statement said.

"For all the harms the Sierra Club has caused, and continues to cause, to Black people, Indigenous people, and other people of color, I am deeply sorry," Brune wrote.

A 'very dark history': Oregon's racist past fuels protests against injustice in Portland

Brune recently addressed 800 staff and 4 million members and volunteers with a note that was unusually frank and acquiescent, according to the Washington Post.

For years, Brune wrote in the note, the Sierra Club’s staffers of color “have led the call for transformative change and I and other white leaders have not responded with the urgency nor at the scale that the opportunities and challenges demand."

The Post said Brune promised to overhaul executive leadership, reallocate $5 million to reduce pay inequities, and devote greater attention to the communities suffering most from “environmental racism” and “structural injustice.”

Other mainly white environmental and conservation groups, such as the Union of Concerned Scientists and the Environmental Defense Fund, are also reckoning with their checkered past and present when it comes to race, the Post said.

Brune's online statement Wednesday concluded: "I know that the steps I’ve outlined above are only the beginnings of what will be a years-long process to reckon with our history, regain trust from the communities we have harmed, and create a diverse and equitable Sierra Club for the 21st century."

This article originally appeared on USA TODAY: Sierra Club confronts its racist, white supremacist past


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"For all the harms the Sierra Club has caused, and continues to cause, to Black people, Indigenous people, and other people of color, I am deeply sorry," Brune wrote.
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alright, i'm about done with the news for a while :flipoff2: back to general shittery
 
See the thread bumped and figure there is new info about Jenna and I'm greeted with a wall of text about the fucking Sierra club. I am dissatisfied.
 
Glad you bumped it.... I wanna listen to that podcast you posted and forgot!!!
Provience always bring good reads and videos/podcasts!!!
 
Holy fuck, I really didn't think I would need to start a separate thread for "the outdoors is RACIST!" :shaking: at some point, I probably will though :shaking:

Fuck these idiots on one hand, good for them on the other


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/w...h-the-gear/ar-BB17N3YB?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds

On May 19, Jackson posted on Instagram asking if any people of color wanted a free camping kit. "No need to demonstrate need or anything," Jackson wrote. "Just ask and we can get something out to you."




The kit would include two sleeping bags, a tent and a cooler. Jackson included a Venmo account on Instagram so people could donate to the cause.

The post brought in close to $500, which, combined with Jackson's savings, paid for five camping kits for people who needed gear to get out in nature.

Jackson initially purchased the ready-to-go kits from REI, which cost about $300 each. The kits included quality tents and bags from companies such as Kelty and Wilderness Technology.
Segregation on public lands


Camping is often called America’s favorite outdoor activity. This summer, when many travel options have been eliminated, the go-to vacation has been camping or renting an RV and visiting public lands.

But camping and national parks have a complicated past when it comes to racial equality and equal access for all. National parks have a history of segregation that dates to the 1930s, something that didn't change until the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Almost all U.S. national parks were originally home to Indigenous populations long before they were set aside as parks. Many of those Native American tribes were pushed off their land, often violently, to create an illusion of untouched landscapes.

Even the Sierra Club, for the first time, in July openly condemned its founder, John Muir, over racist comments in his writings about Black and Indigenous people. The years of segregation, racism and displacement continue to define national parks and other public lands as predominantly white spaces.

A 2018 study by the Society of American Foresters found that between 2010 and 2014, 94.6% of visitors to national forests identified as white. People who identified as Latino made up 5.7%, and those who identified as Black made up 1.2%.

Jackson's personal experiences bear out those numbers. They grew up camping and hiking but noticed at an early age that not many other families resembled theirs. “My dad and I would almost always be the only Black people at any camp we went to,” Jackson said.

After sending out the first few BIPOC Camping Kits and getting positive responses from people who had received them, Jackson decided to put out another call on Instagram. By then it was July and much had changed.

Protests had swept the nation in the wake of the deaths of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery and Breonna Taylor. Thousands of Americans took to the streets, outraged by the continued disregard for the lives of Black people.
Donations take off


This time the response was much bigger. "People just cared more all of a sudden," Jackson said. More than 600 people reached out and asked for camping kits. Jackson needed more funding and took the campaign to GoFundme, where, as of Aug. 5, more than $55,000 had been raised.

"I think there is a lot of white guilt right now," Jackson said, explaining why donations suddenly took off. "We’re all learning and growing; sometimes guilt is part of it too — not that we want guilt and shame, but we do want growth."
Given the rapid rise of interest in BIPOC Camping Kits, Jackson tapped friends Griffin Ripley, B Sánchez and Hayley Harris to help.

"There are so many Black people in the Pacific Northwest, even though people pretend like we’re not here," said Harris, who works for a nonprofit. Harris has been helping set up BIPOC Camping Kits as a nonprofit.

Harris didn’t go camping until she was 18. "I went with one of my white friends and her mom — camping wasn’t accessible to me — and I thought it was awesome. But every time I wanted to go camping after that, I had to wait until one of my white friends wanted to go," Harris said.

The disparity in access to the outdoors is particularly frustrating to Harris, who pointed out that those who could most benefit from being in a rural environment have often felt excluded. “Being in nature is healing,” she said. “People who need that healing most are Black and Indigenous people, and the idea that it’s inaccessible … it’s just not right.”

Harris was excited about Jackson’s initiative because she couldn't afford to buy her own gear. “Tents are hundreds of dollars, sleeping bags are super expensive, and if you’re really going camping, you can’t scrimp on gear. You could end up freezing at night,” she said.

A smaller outdoors store, Next Adventure, based in Portland, Ore., noticed the initiative on Instagram. “Our followers started to tag us in Mo’s posts,” said Devin Kelly, Next Adventures' community relations manager. “I contacted Mo and we realized we could help.”

It is an ideal partnership. “We have always believed in helping support our community in getting outdoors,” said Bryan Knudsen, co-owner of Next Adventure.

“Mo and their team wanted to step up; we are just thrilled to support them and help more people get outside,” said Deek Heykamp, another co-owner. The kits assembled with Next Adventure cost $200 to $250.

On Aug. 1, Jackson and the BIPOC Camping Kits team, along with people at Next Adventure, assembled more than 200 kits at the company’s warehouse. Some were customized for people with specific needs or physical disabilities. The kits were shipped across the country Aug. 3.

Jackson had to close the requests for kits once the number reached 600. They will ship the remaining 400 orders in partnership with Next Adventure soon. Jackson will reopen requests for kits once more money has been raised.

One of the first people to reach out to Jackson for a kit was Ale Abreu, who lives in Olympia, Wash. Despite living close to some of the most beautiful outdoors sites in the country, Abreu found camping inaccessible. “I’m working class,” said Abreu. “I was intimidated. Did I have what I needed? Would I be warm and comfortable? Camping is an investment, and I’ve always had to prioritize other bills.”

Abreu received a BIPOC Camping Kit in June. “I’m really impressed. It’s clearly high quality and something I will be able to use again and again.”

After Abreu received the gear, Jackson offered to get on FaceTime and demonstrate how to set up the tent. “Mo wanted to make sure there was no barrier to me enjoying the equipment, which was another added layer of care,” Abreu said.

Abreu used the camping kit to visit the Mt. Rainier area with a friend and is planning a trip to the Columbia River Gorge. “I came away from the trip to Mt. Rainier with more confidence in myself — feeling more connected to nature,” Abreu said.

“It’s a precious gift, especially for someone like myself and, I think, for a lot of people of color,” Abreu said, “because of systemic oppression, because of racism, economics and all these things we have to navigate — it can all result in a de-centering.” Camping, Abreu said, allows re-centering in the midst of social and political chaos. “It’s a moment to catch your breath.”

Jackson intends to expand the BIPOC Camping Kits venture. “Black and Indigenous people have historically had connections to nature and the land that have been stripped from us,” they said. “My bigger picture is full solidarity; it’s going to take all of us coming together to topple these racist systems so we can find our sacred places again, and find peace again, together.”
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cliff notes: The reason that nature is racists, is because gear costs money and of course, we need gear. pay me!

this is not so much directed at the initial person, but he is backwards in his thinking. it is more directed at EVERYBODY else who has jumped on to this shit. Black people can't figure out how to visit nature? Black people can't go to nature without a white person? Fucking INDIGINOUS people can't "afford" nature!? What in the actual fuck :shaking:
 
Provience said:
Holy fuck, I really didn't think I would need to start a separate thread for "the outdoors is RACIST!" :shaking: at some point, I probably will though :shaking:

Fuck these idiots on one hand, good for them on the other


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cliff notes: The reason that nature is racists, is because gear costs money and of course, we need gear. pay me!

this is not so much directed at the initial person, but he is backwards in his thinking. it is more directed at EVERYBODY else who has jumped on to this shit. Black people can't figure out how to visit nature? Black people can't go to nature without a white person? Fucking INDIGINOUS people can't "afford" nature!? What in the actual fuck :shaking:
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I stopped reading at "tents are hundreds of dollars". Stop shopping at REI and other elitest outdoor stores. I bet all the tents I've bought over my 25 years of purchasing my own camping gear haven't cost me "hundreds" of dollars combined, and I bought some fairly high end shit when I was backpacking in my early 20's.

How many of these people that can't afford a tent have brand new Iphones? Priorities.
 
I bought a Big Agnes for the motorcycle for $110 at a brick and mortar store. :laughing:
 
I just always assumed black people were scared of the wilderness and injuns were too drunk to care. I doubt I'm wrong.
 
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