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Socsmm6

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needing to get internet from house to shop. I ran coax cable from the house to the shop with the idea of just hooking up a separate cable modem router. Apprently xfinity says you cant do that on one account.
Wanting wireless access, internet for tv and be able to hook up a seperate security camera system. What do i need to do?
 
Ive got 2 Unifi AC-LR-Pro access points running wireless in house and shop as well as acting as a wireless bridge. The one in the shop cat5e comes out of access point into a switch for all my hardwired devices. Setup works well besides having killer wireless coverage. costs about $90 an access point.
 
I have the monster ASUS router and I added on their Airmesh system to that with the Lyra Trio. The nice thing about the Aimesh system is it doesn’t use a separate extended network name. The device switches seamlessly to whichever node has the strongest signal for where you are. I have one of the nodes set up in the garage. I get full signal on my network across the street at my neighbors house.

this is the Lyra mesh system.
https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/Mesh-WiFi-System-Home/

and this is the router I am using as my base

https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/ROG-Rapture-GT-AX11000/
 
I have an Engenius EN500 wireless bridge on house and barn (~200-225', I'd guess) and have had no issues. They are POE, line of site based. One sitting in a window (house) and the other mounted to the eve of the barn. Inside the barn is an 8 port wireless router, a POE router and all supporting 1 PC and 7 cameras. Been in place for a few years and been happy.

EDIT: per Google Earth, I'm 280 ft between house and barn
 
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When I trenched in my power to the detached garage I just put an ethernet cable in there also... was only 25' away though and is set up in the garage and the room above it. Works fine. You already have the cable, just use this:

https://www.amazon.com/goCoax-Adapte...25133619&psc=1

MoCa adapter. Cheaper than a trench.


Doh! 87Manche beat me to it. :flipoff2:
 
technically custom splice beat us both to it.

but at 250ft you could still run ethernet.
100M is the limitation.

so if OP was smart and put in conduit when he ran that run, could just pull ethernet and spend like $50 on the whole thing. not have any extra equipment.
If OP direct buried coax then he's dumb, and should just run the moca adapters.
 
on a 200' run you can run into lightning issues
I'd pull fiber through like custom splice up there suggests, if you can
 
[486 said:
;n103570]on a 200' run you can run into lightning issues
I'd pull fiber through like custom splice up there suggests, if you can
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you know you can put in a lightning suppressor at the building entry right?

but honestly if you're really worried about lightning damage on your buried ethernet, some other shit has probably already been cooked.

i've had lightning come in through phones lines and cook shit that left the ethernet alone in the same conduit.
 
rockota said:
I have an Engenius EN500 wireless bridge on house and barn (~200-225', I'd guess) and have had no issues. They are POE, line of site based. One sitting in a window (house) and the other mounted to the eve of the barn. Inside the barn is an 8 port wireless router, a POE router and all supporting 1 PC and 7 cameras. Been in place for a few years and been happy.
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We have this^^ about 225' according to Google earth. It then goes to a wireless router and works great.
 
87manche said:
technically custom splice beat us both to it.

but at 250ft you could still run ethernet.
100M is the limitation.

so if OP was smart and put in conduit when he ran that run, could just pull ethernet and spend like $50 on the whole thing. not have any extra equipment.
If OP direct buried coax then he's dumb, and should just run the moca adapters.
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Ir dumb. Direct bury cable
 
Subscribing for ideas, my shit is 40’ away and only power running to the shop and WiFi is good if I stand against the wall closest to the house.
 
87manche said:
technically custom splice beat us both to it.

but at 250ft you could still run ethernet.
100M is the limitation.

so if OP was smart and put in conduit when he ran that run, could just pull ethernet and spend like $50 on the whole thing. not have any extra equipment.
If OP direct buried coax then he's dumb, and should just run the moca adapters.
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If he says 250 feet and I imagine he’s talking point to point i bet that if he goes device to device (with all the ups and downs and overs and cable slack /etc.) he’s over the 300 that’s typically recommended as a limit for standard ethernet
 
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grumpy356 said:
If he says 250 feet and I imagine he’s talking point to point a bet that if he goes device to device (with all the ups and downs and overs and cable slack /etc.) he’s over the 300 that’s typically recommended as a limit for standard ethernet
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Correct. I would just use the Coax Ethernet Adapters. They are reliable and easy to setup. They are straight up plug and play.
 
Custom Splice said:
Correct. I would just use the Coax Ethernet Adapters. They are reliable and easy to setup. They are straight up plug and play.
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Distance is what it took to run the wire. Line of sight is closer.
If using the moca adapters- on the shop end do you just plug in a router to hookup multiple devices?
 
Socsmm6 said:
Distance is what it took to run the wire. Line of sight is closer.
If using the moca adapters- on the shop end do you just plug in a router to hookup multiple devices?
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Use a switch unless you want wifi (assuming the router has wifi)
log into the router and turn off DHCP and setup a wifi network like "shop wifi"
plug the coax converter into one of the lan ports not the wan port
 
you want to run security cameras right?

Put a POE switch in the shop attached to moca adapter. Use POE switch to run POE access point and all your security cameras.

Done.

Bonus if you just decided to do a full mesh network using your preferred brand of hardware.

For the average person ubiquiti is the easiest/best/cheapest.
 
87manche said:
For the average person ubiquiti is the easiest/best/cheapest.
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Not cheapest :laughing:


I'm looking at setting up a ubiquiti network myself. What else would you recommend for control and ease of use? 2 AP-pro's, a 5 port switch, one 8 port POE router is my thoughts.
 
Turns out my modem is moca capable so i should only need one moca adapter in the shop. It s supposed to backfeed through all of my cable in my house. This would make things a lot easier.
Logged into my modem to make sure i could enable moca and a warning pops up. Says this will turn off my wifi capabilities on my router.
So if i use the moca in the modem i loose my wifi in the house.

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Same electric panel? If so, Powerline Adapter may work for you:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Make sure its AV2 compatible.

I just installed one of the opposite side of the house and get four bars now. Just plug it into the closest wall socket to the shop. That may get you there.
 
Pt_Ranger_v8 said:
Not cheapest :laughing:


I'm looking at setting up a ubiquiti network myself. What else would you recommend for control and ease of use? 2 AP-pro's, a 5 port switch, one 8 port POE router is my thoughts.
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best value then?

I just use a PC and the unifi software installed. It doesn't need to run all the time for things to work, only if you want to make changes or upgrade AP firmware, or monitor traffic.

if you want to do all that, ust buy the cloud key or put the controller software on a rasberry pi.

https://pimylifeup.com/rasberry-pi-unifi/


Socsmm6 said:
Turns out my modem is moca capable so i should only need one moca adapter in the shop. It s supposed to backfeed through all of my cable in my house. This would make things a lot easier.
Logged into my modem to make sure i could enable moca and a warning pops up. Says this will turn off my wifi capabilities on my router.
So if i use the moca in the modem i loose my wifi in the house.
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it's not going to work like that.

you're better off buying a pair of them to ensure that they work properly.
 
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