I am wasting my vote for a third party candidate this year...

[Scott Cee aka 2drx4]

While I don't endorse it, I think you are 100% correct. If that doesn't start some kind of mass uprising on either side nothing ever will. Maybe 2020 is just a practice run and 2021 is going to be the real shitshow?

I don't see a scenario where things will improve so that it is avoidable at this point. Coronavirus will continue its economic toll, racial tensions will become higher, the creeping objectives of the violent left will continue to be ignored by the masses, police departments will dismantle, whole cities will turn into lawless hives of crime and disease. Unless the media starts being a little more unbiased on reporting the actions of the authoritarian Marxist rioters, and starts to point out things like how Communism has generally been ushered in by killing everyone with wealth and anyone who was in any way different than the ideal established. Most of these leftist fuckstains don't realize they would be some of the first to be purged once the power transfer has occurred, as more moderate leftism represent the real threat to the very specific hard left Marxist dream of ANTIFA and BLM. Then they kill the others as they have the time and resources.

I do NOT want to see this shit happens. We have it GOOD in the west. I do not want to see this thrown away because people are too lazy and ignorant to realize what is going on.

 

[subybaja]

At what point do you, personally, draw the line and stop voting for the "Lesser Evil"?

I've been hearing the hysterical "Ermagerd, we've GOT to stop the enema, or it'll be slave camps!" from BOTH sides as long as I can remember. A few years back, my R friends were bursting a vein that Obama was going to become Herr Commandant, now my D friends are peeing themselves that Donnie will do the same.

I don't see much difference. Half of the purpose of the 2nd has been emasculated by regulating select-fire out of common existence, it is technically illegal to publish explosives instructions, the overall tax burden keeps going up...

Republican/Democrat is a choice of which kind of prison sex.

 

[grumpy356]

I believe wholeheartedly in the philosophy of libertarianism. But I’m smart enough to know a political party is a political party. The second the Libertarian party was viable path to a position of power the party would be full of LINO’s. (Libertarian In Name Only) And being no difference in the two current residing parties

jo is already pandering to the Marxist at BLM

 

[subybaja]

God damn her. What is wrong with them.

 

[NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE]

i'm writing in AOC.

 

[45acp]

Show me the trash can, I will gladly place my vote in it.

R's every 4 years- "IF YOU VOTE LIBERTARIAN, YOU'RE VOTING FOR THE D"
D's every 4 years- "IF YOU VOTE LIBERTARIAN, YOU'RE VOTING FOR THE R"

This place is DONE. It's not fixable, it can't be saved, and your vote doesn't count for jack shit. We can't even make the interest payment on the national debt anymore. We're printing $$$ ala Venezuela. As a nation, we are the middle class working family that lives in a $26million house.

At this point, fuck your vote. Hoard ammo. Hoard seeds. Hoard land. Hoard friends/family. Hoard biodiesel. I don't know how or to what extent... but I'm pretty sure all this shit will go under in my lifetime. If not, definitely in my kids lifetimes.

Sorry to be a Debbie Downer.

 

[NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE]

Show me the trash can, I will gladly place my vote in it.

R's every 4 years- "IF YOU VOTE LIBERTARIAN, YOU'RE VOTING FOR THE D"
D's every 4 years- "IF YOU VOTE LIBERTARIAN, YOU'RE VOTING FOR THE R"

This place is DONE. It's not fixable, it can't be saved, and your vote doesn't count for jack shit. We can't even make the interest payment on the national debt anymore. We're printing $$$ ala Venezuela. As a nation, we are the middle class working family that lives in a $26million house.

At this point, fuck your vote. Hoard ammo. Hoard seeds. Hoard land. Hoard friends/family. Hoard biodiesel. I don't know how or to what extent... but I'm pretty sure all this shit will go under in my lifetime. If not, definitely in my kids lifetimes.

Sorry to be a Debbie Downer.

so you're saying we're not the greatest country on earth?

 

[Truckedup]

Show me the trash can, I will gladly place my vote in it.

R's every 4 years- "IF YOU VOTE LIBERTARIAN, YOU'RE VOTING FOR THE D"
D's every 4 years- "IF YOU VOTE LIBERTARIAN, YOU'RE VOTING FOR THE R"

This place is DONE. It's not fixable, it can't be saved, and your vote doesn't count for jack shit. We can't even make the interest payment on the national debt anymore. We're printing $$$ ala Venezuela. As a nation, we are the middle class working family that lives in a $26million house.

At this point, fuck your vote. Hoard ammo. Hoard seeds. Hoard land. Hoard friends/family. Hoard biodiesel. I don't know how or to what extent... but I'm pretty sure all this shit will go under in my lifetime. If not, definitely in my kids lifetimes.

Sorry to be a Debbie Downer.

I hear what you say....I don't believe it for sure but anything is possible with the elected bunch running the country in all three branches of government.
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[NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE]

I hear what you say....I don't believe it for sure but anything is possible with the elected bunch running the country in all three branches of government.
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the current trajectory is going to lead us to follow rome. our leadership in all branches isn't changing the path. i agree with 45acp's take. buy sunflower seeds.

 

[3Cs]

Yah, he won't go anywhere... but I am voting how I want to this time around. Maybe if enough people ditch these hacks eventually someone with some merit will occupy the oval.

With that kind of thinking I expect your next move is to quit working because you plan on winning the Lottery.

Same reasoning.

 

[Deleted Member]

With that kind of thinking I expect your next move is to quit working because you plan on winning the Lottery.

Same reasoning.

And voting for the same old shit is like going to work... for .05 cents an hour, and asking for them to please not take any more from you! Why? "They" got your back buddy, they WILL make sure you get what you have coming.

 

[SanDiegoCJ]

And voting for the same old shit is like going to work... for .05 cents an hour, and asking for them to please not take any more from you! Why? "They" got your back buddy, they WILL make sure you get what you have coming.

Voting your conscience is never wasting your vote. Voting for a shit sandwich or a cup of piss IS wasting your vote. I just wish more people would realize that simple fact.

 

[grumpy356]

Voting your conscience is never wasting your vote. Voting for a shit sandwich or a cup of piss IS wasting your vote. I just wish more people would realize that simple fact.

So you are saying vote “your feelings” instead of looking at a situation dispassionately and applying reaon?

You taking your wifes estrogen patch?

 

[SanDiegoCJ]

So you are saying vote “your feelings” instead of looking at a situation dispassionately and applying reaon?

You taking your wifes estrogen patch?

Damn, how the fuck did you get that from what I posted ? One more blatant example of twisting some ones post to fit their own agenda. :rolleyes:

 

[gt1guy]

Damn, how the fuck did you get that from what I posted ? One more blatant example of twisting some ones post to fit their own agenda. :rolleyes:

Because you don't seem to understand that an intelligent person could possibly come to a different conclusion than you on any given subject. It must be nice to have the only opinion that matters.

I agree that "voting your conscience" is "voting your feelings". Making an informed adult decision about who might be the best at fixing the countries issues MUST include whether or not that person even has a chance of being elected. Critical thinking requires you to ignore the option that isn't really an option. By not doing that, you're running on pure feelings and critical thinking went out the window.

 

[Scott Cee aka 2drx4]

Because you don't seem to understand that an intelligent person could possibly come to a different conclusion than you on any given subject. It must be nice to have the only opinion that matters.

I agree that "voting your conscience" is "voting your feelings". Making an informed adult decision about who might be the best at fixing the countries issues MUST include whether or not that person even has a chance of being elected. Critical thinking requires you to ignore the option that isn't really an option. By not doing that, you're running on pure feelings and critical thinking went out the window.

This. Very much this.

 

[petro812]

Damn, how the fuck did you get that from what I posted ? One more blatant example of twisting some ones post to fit their own agenda. :rolleyes:

You don't write very well. That's the fact.

None of the shit you've posted was blatant or in fact an example of anything. How the fuck do you sleep at night?

 

[SanDiegoCJ]

You don't write very well. That's the fact.

None of the shit you've posted was blatant or in fact an example of anything. How the fuck do you sleep at night?

No, I see it as people injecting their own bias into what I post. How someone gets "feelings" and not using logic from voting my conscience is their fault. You can quite easliy vote your conscience because you've studied the candidates and decided which one is the best by where they stand on the issues. grumpy356 injected his own bias into his post.

 

[gt1guy]

No, I see it as people injecting their own bias into what I post. How someone gets "feelings" and not using logic from voting my conscience is their fault. You can quite easliy vote your conscience because you've studied the candidates and decided which one is the best by where they stand on the issues. grumpy356 injected his own bias into his post.

If you're including a candidate that has absolutely zero chance of getting elected in your "studies", you're being foolish. You're adding a variable into the equation that doesn't exist. Like dividing by zero = error.

Why would anyone do that on purpose unless they needed a reason to feel better about themselves for not bucking up and making the hard decision................choosing between two people who you dislike?


I dislike Trump as a person and I dislike Biden as a person. Nobody else on the ballot will have the slightest chance of winning, I'm not going to waste my time to even learn their names, because they don't matter.

 

[Deleted Member]

Because you don't seem to understand that an intelligent person could possibly come to a different conclusion than you on any given subject. It must be nice to have the only opinion that matters.

I agree that "voting your conscience" is "voting your feelings". Making an informed adult decision about who might be the best at fixing the countries issues MUST include whether or not that person even has a chance of being elected. Critical thinking requires you to ignore the option that isn't really an option. By not doing that, you're running on pure feelings and critical thinking went out the window.

And imo, this is the exact type of thinking that keeps us stuck with the two lame parties we have, the same two over lobbied and corporate owned ones.

Critical thinking works in MANY ways, not just leaving ones options open to "Well, it's all I can do and no one else is going to get the chance, so I may as well cast my vote for the only option I have...".

Come awn man, that's a cop out.

 

[SanDiegoCJ]

And imo, this is the exact type of thinking that keeps us stuck with the two lame parties we have, the same two over lobbied and corporate owned ones.

Critical thinking works in MANY ways, not just leaving ones options open to "Well, it's all I can do and no one else is going to get the chance, so I may as well cast my vote for the only option I have...".

Come awn man, that's a cop out.

Too many people just don't understand that. We need MANY more people to change that type of thinking if we want to change where this country is going.

 

[subybaja]

If you're including a candidate that has absolutely zero chance of getting elected in your "studies", you're being foolish. You're adding a variable into the equation that doesn't exist. Like dividing by zero = error.

Why would anyone do that on purpose unless they needed a reason to feel better about themselves for not bucking up and making the hard decision................choosing between two people who you dislike?


I dislike Trump as a person and I dislike Biden as a person. Nobody else on the ballot will have the slightest chance of winning, I'm not going to waste my time to even learn their names, because they don't matter.

Self-fulfilling prophecy. "I won't vote for anyone but the Big 2, because no one votes for anyone but the Big 2!"

YOU are the reason Evil and Lesser Evil are your choices.

 

[Animalmother]

Too much is at stake for a 3rd party protest vote. It maybe was an idea worth entertaining a few years ago but if people would have jumped on that train last election we would be looking at 2 activist liberal SCOTUS picks on the bench and probably a 3rd ready to reinterpret the Constitution. The two choices are now between a complete socialist restructuring of the United States or a continuation of modern western civilization based on our founding documents.

 

[45acp]

Too much is at stake for a 3rd party protest vote. It maybe was an idea worth entertaining a few years ago but if people would have jumped on that train last election we would be looking at 2 activist liberal SCOTUS picks on the bench and probably a 3rd ready to reinterpret the Constitution. The two choices are now between a complete socialist restructuring of the United States or a continuation of modern western civilization based on our founding documents.

Every 4 years, literally everyone says exactly what you just said.

I decided to go wackjob libertarian on the 2004 presidential election. Your post is an exact copy of what my buddy Matt said on my back porch circa 2003 with an ice chest full of Shiner and stone temple pilots in the background. "Maybe 2000 election, but man this is post 9/11 and its a different world now and blah blah blah"

 

[gt1guy]

And imo, this is the exact type of thinking that keeps us stuck with the two lame parties we have, the same two over lobbied and corporate owned ones.

Critical thinking works in MANY ways, not just leaving ones options open to "Well, it's all I can do and no one else is going to get the chance, so I may as well cast my vote for the only option I have...".

Come awn man, that's a cop out.

I voted for Ross Perot because I thought he had a chance of winning. He was the last one who had even the slightest chance.

The Libertarian party has been running jokes for years. Flat out fucking jokes. Put up someone who can grab the attention of the center on both sides, with the financial backing to be a player and I would gladly entertain the thought of giving them my vote.

Until that time arrives, it's not a cop out to say there are only two choices, because the truth is, there are only two choices.

You have to play the game you're in, not the one you wish you were in.

 

[gt1guy]

Every 4 years, literally everyone says exactly what you just said.

Thomas Sowell seems to think that if Biden wins the election, we will be past the point of saving the country.

That's a very stark comment for someone like him to say. His words hold weight.

 

[45acp]

Thomas Sowell seems to think that if Biden wins the election, we will be past the point of saving the country.

That's a very stark comment for someone like him to say. His words hold weight.

We're already passed the point of saving. Do whatever you like with your vote... its not going to change the course. Tax and spend or borrow and spend- it all leads to the same outcome. Hopefully America pt2 will remember that.

 

[trampas]

Shiner has good influencing bias but Stone Temple Pilots will dank your brain but good. Prove me wrong.

 

[Poriggity]

Too much is at stake for a 3rd party protest vote. It maybe was an idea worth entertaining a few years ago but if people would have jumped on that train last election we would be looking at 2 activist liberal SCOTUS picks on the bench and probably a 3rd ready to reinterpret the Constitution. The two choices are now between a complete socialist restructuring of the United States or a continuation of modern western civilization based on our founding documents.

This will always be an available excuse for people to not vote 3rd party. This is also the reason I am deliberately voting 3rd party this year. Im sick of the excuses, and om guilty of making excuses myself.

 

[Scott Cee aka 2drx4]

So you guys voting third party on some moral high ground of it being "not the same shit" did you not read the quote I posted?