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How to move a lot of dirt

The answer is obvious.




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Wonder if you could do like that you tube channel did with mowing their field, but dirt moving? where instead of paying a big company to use a few pieces of equipment to move dirt, you call in 100 members to do a few loads each with whatever they got? :flipoff2:



It's been a while since I've been there, but can you get an old dump truck up there? Or is it loose sand that I remember you mentioning?

In reality, it won't take that long with a skid steer assuming it's a larger one with a 1 yard bucket. If you could do 3 mins rounds that's 50 hours.
 
2big bronco said:
Now I assume those scoop up a little as a time as they go along. How would that work trying to take a 60' wide cut, 60' back. And 0-12' down?

Im asking because those are cheap in my area. 10 grand for one fit for ranch duty
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If you have any rock in your soil those won't do it. Like TiTRD said earlier in the thread, scrapers don't exist in the northeast because we have rock. I see multiple of those daily now that I live in a part of Texas where it's all clay and sand with no rock.
 
2big bronco said:
Now I assume those scoop up a little as a time as they go along. How would that work trying to take a 60' wide cut, 60' back. And 0-12' down?

Im asking because those are cheap in my area. 10 grand for one fit for ranch duty
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Those in the pic aren't cheap. :lmao:

Those are 57's. You're probably seeing some old John Deere paddlewheel that has been sitting for 30yrs. :flipoff2:

Show a pic of what you're seeing cheap.
 
2big bronco said:
Now I assume those scoop up a little as a time as they go along. How would that work trying to take a 60' wide cut, 60' back. And 0-12' down?

Im asking because those are cheap in my area. 10 grand for one fit for ranch duty
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I don't know anything about earth movers, except that they sound bad ass:smokin:.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
If you have any rock in your soil those won't do it. Like TiTRD said earlier in the thread, scrapers don't exist in the northeast because we have rock. I see multiple of those daily now that I live in a part of Texas where it's all clay and sand with no rock.
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Depends on rock. But yeah.

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Was hired to manage this mess with scrapers. Should have been a truck job but I got it handled with the limited tools I was provided.
 
2big bronco said:
Now I assume those scoop up a little as a time as they go along. How would that work trying to take a 60' wide cut, 60' back. And 0-12' down?

Im asking because those are cheap in my area. 10 grand for one fit for ranch duty
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Those are yuge twin engine scrapers that are like 30-60 yards each and burn about 25 gallons of diesel per hour. :laughing:

The ones you're probably seeing are smaller single engine paddle wheel type. They're basically just for picking up dirt that's already wind rowed up by a dozer or grader. They're also front wheel drive only and pretty useless on sand.

Even the small ones are probably too big for what you want.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
If you have any rock in your soil those won't do it. Like TiTRD said earlier in the thread, scrapers don't exist in the northeast because we have rock. I see multiple of those daily now that I live in a part of Texas where it's all clay and sand with no rock.
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5 years later and 20+ years doing it, still have never seen a scraper :laughing:

But I'm the the land of Goonies (rocks).

Fun thing, Vermont has a fuck ton of granite. Arguably more produced than the "granite state".
 
YotaAtieToo said:
Those are yuge twin engine scrapers that are like 30-60 yards each and burn about 25 gallons of diesel per hour. :laughing:

The ones you're probably seeing are smaller single engine paddle wheel type. They're basically just for picking up dirt that's already wind rowed up by a dozer or grader. They're also front wheel drive only and pretty useless on sand.

Even the small ones are probably too big for what you want.
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Heaped or compacted yards?


Go up on your gph.


No doubt.


Uh, duh. That was the joke.

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TiTRD said:
5 years later and 20+ years doing it, still have never seen a scraper :laughing:

But I'm the the land of Goonies (rocks).

Fun thing, Vermont has a fuck ton of granite. Arguably more produced than the "granite state".
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I bet I can't find 3 bowling ball size rocks anywhere on the 5 acres I own here even if I dug the entire thing 6' down. We have to import rocks if we want them in these parts. :laughing:
 
In all seriousness. If you're just doing it as a homeowner and want to do it on your spare time. Just use what ya got and piss ant that shit while having a beer.

Or, spend money on rentals or buying shit for this one job hoping you'll sell it after it's completed (which you won't cause you'll find other shit you want to do with that stuff:flipoff2:)
 
Captain Call said:
Depends on rock. But yeah.

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Was hired to manage this mess with scrapers. Should have been a truck job but I got it handled with the limited tools I was provided.
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Looks fun, what machines are you using?

SLOWPOKE693 said:
If you have any rock in your soil those won't do it. Like TiTRD said earlier in the thread, scrapers don't exist in the northeast because we have rock. I see multiple of those daily now that I live in a part of Texas where it's all clay and sand with no rock.
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Those scrapers are huge like 160k lbs empty and around 500hp between the 2 engines. They will handle some rock :laughing::flipoff2:

The crew I started with all had been on big project just north of Sacramento in merton rock. They were using multiple D11s and a komastu d475 ripping it 3 ways, then picking it up with pairs of 657s or 651s pushed by 2 D10s. :smokin:
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
I bet I can't find 3 bowling ball size rocks anywhere on the 5 acres I own here even if I dug the entire thing 6' down. We have to import rocks if we want them in these parts. :laughing:
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Ya need a rip cat in rock obviously. Well, really in most cuts for scrapers. Be amazed what can be moved by em. Even seen/done shot rock moved by em.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
I bet I can't find 3 bowling ball size rocks anywhere on the 5 acres I own here even if I dug the entire thing 6' down. We have to import rocks if we want them in these parts. :laughing:
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If I make it down there again some day, I'll throw 3 in my truck and drop them off.

Meanwhile, every pasture here is surrounded by pushed off rocks just to make a damn corn field.
 
They use those giant scrapers around here to strip ground 10-12' down to then hydrate and recompact the clay back in the hole before they begin putting up forms for the slabs all these huge ass buildings get built on. If they don't do that first the swelling and contracting of the unhydrated clay will tear a slab up and a building apart in a few short years.
 
Captain Call said:
Ya need a rip cat in rock obviously. Well, really in most cuts for scrapers. Be amazed what can be moved by em. Even seen/done shot rock moved by em.
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Company I worked for did lots of wetland stuff and used ktech cans behind JD tractors. He was always looking for winter work and got an 8 or so week job in dredge tailings :laughing: they did it, but man was it hard on shit. Lots of top loading, some self loading and some pushed loads with an 8.

What's cool about that job is being able to pull up old jobs on Google maps
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
They use those giant scrapers around here to strip ground 10-12' down to then hydrate and recompact the clay back in the hole before they begin putting up forms for the slabs all these bumig ass buildings get built on. If they don't do that first the swelling and contracting of the unhydrated clay will tear a slab up and a building apart in a few short years.
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So foreign here. Frost is a bitch, but get below it, we're good. VT sets water main at 6' deep and below frost.
 
TiTRD said:
If I make it down there again some day, I'll throw 3 in my truck and drop them off.

Meanwhile, every pasture here is surrounded by pushed off rocks just to make a damn corn field.
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Natural stone walls don't exist here like back home. No such thing as clearing a field of its rock and being able to gather enough to build a 3' high wall around the entire farm. :laughing:
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
They use those giant scrapers around here to strip ground 10-12' down to then hydrate and recompact the clay back in the hole before they begin putting up forms for the slabs all these bumig ass buildings get built on. If they don't do that first the swelling and contracting of the unhydrated clay will tear a slab up and a building apart in a few short years.
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Well yeah. Ya gotta o. x. the "dirt"

The "ei" will determine how deep and if other materials need to be substituted.


At least in my experience.
 
TiTRD said:
So foreign here. Frost is a bitch, but get below it, we're good. VT sets water main at 6' deep and below frost.
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I met some guys who were into big subdivisions somewhere near ottowa.

He said they put the sewer mains at 30' deep..... And laterals at 12'. Sewer doesn't usually freeze easy, so I'm guessing the water was much deeper.
 
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