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How to move a lot of dirt

rockota said:
$2500 is more than you want to pay, but you're willing to pay $10k?

i'm confused.
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If I pay 10,000 I would plan on selling it to re-coup my $10000. The problem is $10,000 wheel loaders dont seem to move fast.

Paying $2500 on a rental that may or may not move all the dirt in 16hrs is $2500 I wont get back... although it might be the best option , idk, that's why I started this thread
 
Benny said:
My BIL has a cat 988 loader for sale. It is yours for. $20k. Road worthy.:lmao:
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you gotta be kidding!''

I just looked up the specs on that rig......... it weighs 76,000+............. wholly crap... 26 gallons of hydraulic fluid......... what a beast!
 
Or I buy something like this and hopefully get a years worth of work done and break even with just a monthly payment

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Have a local dirt guy (who also sells material) come dig a test pit.

If it's good shit and he wants the material, he will pay you to haul it off. You don't lift a finger.

There is good money in dirt.

edit: read it wrong. Carry on.

Around here that is the territory of a 30 ton excavator and a loader.
 
I'd suggest asking any malls, dealerships, or large parking areas to see what they use for snow removal. But....I doubt that's an issue where you are. :homer:
 
woods said:
$2500 would be done and gone.

With the $10k, he could resell the machine for a possible profit.
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True point...

Though... having just sold a machine in that price range before buying another... very few things in the $10k range will end up being $10k... Probably closer to $12-15k after maintenance and repairs. Shoot, the 3500 hour machine I just sold 2 months ago was working fine other than a minor leak... turns out the pump went out (started leaking bad) shortly after they guy purchased it... Anyone's fault? No. Anything deceptive? No. Just the nature of older hydraulics...
 
rockota said:
True point...

Though... having just sold a machine in that price range before buying another... very few things in the $10k range will end up being $10k... Probably closer to $12-15k after maintenance and repairs. Shoot, the 3500 hour machine I just sold 2 months ago was working fine other than a minor leak... turns out the pump went out (started leaking bad) shortly after they guy purchased it... Anyone's fault? No. Anything deceptive? No. Just the nature of older hydraulics...
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yep. if you value your time any, add that to the parts.
 
Looks like trackloader or excavator, and tandem axle dump truck work to me. To put into perspective, it's 100 truck loads. Could definitely get it done in 15 hours. If you pay a contractor you'd probably be looking at +/- $3,500 - $4,000 to move the material.
 
A scraper would be the ideal tool for this job. Know any farmers with big 300+ HP tractors that would do a side job pulling a rental scraper?
 
nyebrosfab said:
Looks like trackloader or excavator, and tandem axle dump truck work to me. To put into perspective, it's 100 truck loads. Could definitely get it done in 15 hours. If you pay a contractor you'd probably be looking at +/- $3,500 - $4,000 to move the material.
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In my area? That sounds really really cheap
 
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I move that much before noon on a good day lol! I second a loader but that’s gonna be out of you price range. What kind of material is it? Sand, gravel, Loam, mud, rock? What ever you get it’s gonna have to be able to get a bucket with it. Best Method if the ground is hard would be hoe and dump. If you get a loader that’s only eight feet wide it’s gonna be big bucks those little ones are worth their weight in gold.

Me I would buy a 100,000lb hoe and just triple bail it lol. That would be your best bang for you buck lol. I just bought a 9060b Approx 100,000lbs with 9500 hours for 27,000 lol. That fucker can move mountains in a hurry. Then toss it up on auction time or iron planet and let the next guy worry about hauling it out. You could redo the entire property in a few weeks and be done for the rest of your life.

Big iron is way cheaper per pound than the small shit.
However it is harder to peddle once you decide to sell.

I feeling once you have a big girl you’ll love it lol.
 
well like I've said on here before....I have both a backhoe and a dozer and I can tell you that moving dirt takes longer than you think. It's NOT just a matter of just scooping it up and driving it 250' and dumping. It's a matter of loosening the soil with a hoe and THEN scooping it up and moving it. unless of course it's just loose sandy type stuff, but even then you will want to use the hoe to loosen it up. and once you move it to where you want, you STILL have to wheel pack it down. even after wheel packing it, the dirt will settle even move.

and this doesn't take into account what I call 'the rock clause'. what I mean by that is you can't really tell if there is rock in there until you actually dig it. I'm in the rocky mountains, so I'm used to having to deal with rock.

I think the bottom line is that your NOT gonna move 1000 yards of dirt in a weekend with one or even three machines. no way, no how.

have a local contractor give you a bid. he will have good experience and I bet you will learn a lot.
 
blakes said:
well like I've said on here before....I have both a backhoe and a dozer and I can tell you that moving dirt takes longer than you think. It's NOT just a matter of just scooping it up and driving it 250' and dumping. It's a matter of loosening the soil with a hoe and THEN scooping it up and moving it. unless of course it's just loose sandy type stuff, but even then you will want to use the hoe to loosen it up. and once you move it to where you want, you STILL have to wheel pack it down. even after wheel packing it, the dirt will settle even move.

and this doesn't take into account what I call 'the rock clause'. what I mean by that is you can't really tell if there is rock in there until you actually dig it. I'm in the rocky mountains, so I'm used to having to deal with rock.

I think the bottom line is that your NOT gonna move 1000 yards of dirt in a weekend with one or even three machines. no way, no how.

have a local contractor give you a bid. he will have good experience and I bet you will learn a lot.
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Its sandy and there is no rocks within miles of my house. There might be sandstone in there as I do have outcroppings higher on my property but anywhere you dig with a shovel its sand
 
blakes said:
well like I've said on here before....I have both a backhoe and a dozer and I can tell you that moving dirt takes longer than you think. It's NOT just a matter of just scooping it up and driving it 250' and dumping. It's a matter of loosening the soil with a hoe and THEN scooping it up and moving it. unless of course it's just loose sandy type stuff, but even then you will want to use the hoe to loosen it up. and once you move it to where you want, you STILL have to wheel pack it down. even after wheel packing it, the dirt will settle even move.

and this doesn't take into account what I call 'the rock clause'. what I mean by that is you can't really tell if there is rock in there until you actually dig it. I'm in the rocky mountains, so I'm used to having to deal with rock.

I think the bottom line is that your NOT gonna move 1000 yards of dirt in a weekend with one or even three machines. no way, no how.

have a local contractor give you a bid. he will have good experience and I bet you will learn a lot.
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You're dead wrong...moving 1000 yards in a morning is possible with a big enough machine.

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SomeGuy said:
You're dead wrong...moving 1000 yards in a morning is possible with a big enough machine.
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Lol that’s 1000’s of yards a hour. Those fuckers have 50-60 yd buckets. My 744j will move 1400 ton in 5-6 hours feeding the washplant. That’s moving it 100yds on the far side of the pile.
 
2big bronco said:
Or I buy something like this and hopefully get a years worth of work done and break even with just a monthly payment
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Avoid the 870s, bobcat fucked up and made them too wide to fit in between the fenders on a normal trailer, so you need a deck over. Many contractors just go with the 770 for that reason. You may not care, but it will be a harder sell.

If 8' is tight, I'd forget about a wheel loader. Even "small" ones are 8' wide. Skid steer will probably be the quickest way. Take a little time every now and then to tune up your haul road and it should go fairly quickly.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
If 8' is tight, I'd forget about a wheel loader. Even "small" ones are 8' wide. Skid steer will probably be the quickest way. Take a little time every now and then to tune up your haul road and it should go fairly quickly.
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This is what I was trying to think of a way to relay. Dump truck is not going to go very well either at 8' wide.
 
Buy my tractor, clean it up this fall and make a little money on it when your done.
 
What's the actual source of this 8ft requirement? A tree you don't want to cut down or a building you can't move?
 
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