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Homeless camps "everywhere"

I don't think I've ever seen a homeless person. People begging for money, sure. But a flat out tent on the sidewalk? Never. :laughing:
 
Tin Roof said:
When our school district closed down for the rona this spring, they kept offering free lunches for families in need. It didn’t take long and we were getting complaints about farm moms pulling up in brand new diesel crew cab trucks to pick up 5 free lunches for their kids.
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Same was going on here when they were doing popup food banks. People were complaining about folks in new suvs, lifted $70K+ trucks, and fancy cars. From what I read, the schools were pretty strict on handing out food to only enrolled students. Of course, people were complaining about the food that was being handed out.

We went to an Astros game last fall. I was shocked at the amount of homeless camps around the stadium. I was equally shocked at how many homeless had smart phones, and were using Venmo or PayPal for panhandling.
 
Tin Roof said:
When our school district closed down for the rona this spring, they kept offering free lunches for families in need. It didn’t take long and we were getting complaints about farm moms pulling up in brand new diesel crew cab trucks to pick up 5 free lunches for their kids.
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Same here... i had some friends help out with the school lunch home deliveries... every other place was a run down trailer, lifted durastroke and newer tahoe out front, bass boat and 8ft tall 'Mud Nationals' sxs parked on the side, dad's on the porch surrounded by natty light cans- "YALL ARE LATE... DIDN'T THINK MY KIDS WAS GONE GET TO EAT TODAY"
 
I though CA put all of the homeless in hotel rooms to prevent Covid spread....
 
when you give them incentives to live for free, guess what? it is no different than giving a drunk another drink. you get the same results over and over again. expecting something different is just stupid.
 
There's a very large homeless encampment down the road from where we deliver our corn. I had actually been to that exact homless camp back when I was a social worker. It's gotten a lot bigger. Still trash everywhere. I despise the junky homeless, but the circumstantial homeless, I still have a soft spot for, maybe because I've been there and the only reason I didn't end up where they are is because I never cut ties with family.
The biggest problem they cause is breaking into the cornstarch plant in the middle of winter to stand or sleep next to the grain dryer. Its pretty sad.
 
Not in my current BFE location. My old house in Placerville was a different story. They set up "bum" alley: soup kitchen, recycle center, and liquor store within half a mile along same road.:mad3:

With minimal effort, you can see them along 50 through Placerville.
 
rockota said:
I though CA put all of the homeless in hotel rooms to prevent Covid spread....
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I know this was a sarcastic quote but I have noticed less of them in my immediate area. There still is more of them overall. They don’t want help or free hotel rooms, they want to be out shitting on the street and harassing people.
 
Provience said:
there is some of that, there is also a bunch of closures of the services for those groups and the complete destruction of policing
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Let’s not forget the legalization of weed, heroine injection sites and narcan allowing the ODers to do it again and again.

Modern medicine is thwarting natural selection.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
Let’s not forget the legalization of weed, heroine injection sites and narcan allowing the ODers to do it again and again.

Modern medicine is thwarting natural selection.
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Heroin needs to be legal and cheap. Narcan needs to be one time only, you get an "N" tattoo on your forehead then you never get it again.
 
woods said:
I don't think I've ever seen a homeless person. People begging for money, sure. But a flat out tent on the sidewalk? Never. :laughing:
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45acp said:
Heroin needs to be legal and cheap. Narcan needs to be one time only, you get an "N" tattoo on your forehead then you never get it again.
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that too
problem solves itself
 
Thefishguy77 said:
Let’s not forget the legalization of weed, heroine injection sites and narcan allowing the ODers to do it again and again.

Modern medicine is thwarting natural selection.
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i'm happy with the legalization of weed, if that would finally become a federal thing than the weed tourism would end, but with the whole west coast being legal, i'm not sure it is as big of an issue.

the heroin policy on the other hand, that stuff is all shitfucked and basically seems targeted to attract homeless to the area and keep them homeless and hopeless.
 
Provience said:
i'm happy with the legalization of weed, if that would finally become a federal thing than the weed tourism would end, but with the whole west coast being legal, i'm not sure it is as big of an issue.

the heroin policy on the other hand, that stuff is all shitfucked and basically seems targeted to attract homeless to the area and keep them homeless and hopeless.
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The med community needs to really reign in the doctors that over prescribe opioids, I think that would solve alot of the heroin problem.
 
Loader, Compactor truck, auger and oven at kitty food plant. Meow. No problem. Where is Overbear ??
 
Slander said:
The med community needs to really reign in the doctors that over prescribe opioids, I think that would solve alot of the heroin problem.
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They already did, thats what caused the heroin problem.

Steve the family guy/factory worker had some back pain. Dr kept him in hydrocodone for 10 years. He took his 2 a day, and was a mild functional addict. Then one day the .gov cracked down on the dr, Dr suggests Tylenol... and meanwhile Steve is an addict. Steve turns to black market hydro, which turns into a little tiny bit of H because his dealer can't get hydros anymore. Fast forward a few years, and Steve's family and job are gone and he's a full blown junkie.
 
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Slander said:
The med community needs to really reign in the doctors that over prescribe opioids, I think that would solve alot of the heroin problem.
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the adjustment period will suck, but ending the federal drug scheduling and increasing billboard/advertisement/education campaigns and encouraging/subsidizing rehab/treatment centers provides a pretty good least-shitty compromise
 
45acp said:
They already did, thats what caused the heroin problem.

Steve the family guy/factory worker has
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Yea now that I think about it that's right. Crazy problem to solve, get some buearocrat on it STAT!!
 
45acp said:
They already did, thats what caused the heroin problem.
Steve the family guy/factory worker had some back pain. Dr kept him in hydrocodone for 10 years. He took his 2 a day, and was a mild functional addict. Then one day the .gov cracked down on the dr, Dr suggests Tylenol... and meanwhile Steve is an addict. Steve turns to black market hydro, which turns into a little tiny bit of H because his dealer can't get hydros anymore. Fast forward a few years, and Steve's family and job are gone and he's a full blown junkie.
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yup, nobody really starts out doing meth, it's just cheaper than heroin, which is cheaper than pills
luckily the problem solves itself, if only they'd fuckin' let it
 
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yup, nobody really starts out doing meth, it's just cheaper than heroin, which is cheaper than pills
luckily the problem solves itself, if only they'd fuckin' let it
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The thing is, my fictional "Steve" was a good guy on hydrocodone. Never took more than prescribed, hard worker, loved his family- never missed his kids ball game etc etc. 10 years ago when doctors passed opiates out like candy, we had an opioid problem. Since the crackdown, we've had an opioid epidemic. Now homeless camps are half full of Steve's who had nice houses, nice jobs, the wife and 2.3 kids and they had all that shit and were relatively happy on 2 hydrocodone a day. Now you don't recognize Steve cause he's a flabby skeleton living in a tent.

Sell that shit OTC. Let the Steve's do Steve stuff, and let the people that want to "party" die from it.
 
45acp said:
The thing is, my fictional "Steve" was a good guy on hydrocodone. Never took more than prescribed, hard worker, loved his family- never missed his kids ball game etc etc. 10 years ago when doctors passed opiates out like candy, we had an opioid problem. Since the crackdown, we've had an opioid epidemic. Now homeless camps are half full of Steve's who had nice houses, nice jobs, the wife and 2.3 kids and they had all that shit and were relatively happy on 2 hydrocodone a day. Now you don't recognize Steve cause he's a flabby skeleton living in a tent.

Sell that shit OTC. Let the Steve's do Steve stuff, and let the people that want to "party" die from it.
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Lost a friend of mine to the exact thing. The war on drugs has been a miserable failure since its founding. Let the functioning ones function. Let the non functional ones solve their own problems. No narcan or only one dose till you pay back the cost associated with your previous dose.
 
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korda said:
I know this was a sarcastic quote but I have noticed less of them in my immediate area. There still is more of them overall. They don’t want help or free hotel rooms, they want to be out shitting on the street and harassing people.
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Its not sarcasm. But that mostly happened in SF. Not all of California that I know of.

Last I heard the city was plopping down 100million or something to move them from the hotels. Of course, the hotels in SF were hurting from the COVID drop in tourism and also of course, the city vastly over payed rental rates so the hotels were all in. They had to sign NDAs from what I read and of course also, the homeless people absolutely trashed the hotels. Who'd have thunk it.

Now the city is spending more money to move them out and into private rental housing. :rolleyes::rolleyes: WHo the hell would rent their property to them? I have no idea
 
Provience said:
i'm happy with the legalization of weed, if that would finally become a federal thing than the weed tourism would end, but with the whole west coast being legal, i'm not sure it is as big of an issue.

the heroin policy on the other hand, that stuff is all shitfucked and basically seems targeted to attract homeless to the area and keep them homeless and hopeless.
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I am all for getting the guberment out of all drugs personally. The war on drugs has epically failed aa well as allowing police departments to use civil asset forfeiture to fund themselves without proof of guilt. I feel the problems will solve themselves if we let them. But that also involves letting the ODers die. That were I lose most people.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
I feel the problems will solve themselves if we let them. But that also involves letting the ODers die. That were I lose most people.
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Those people need to quit treating junkies as people. Guy that loses his job and his house and sleeps in his car in the parking lot at his new shitty job? He's homeless. Guy living shooting up in a bus stop, shitting on the sidewalk and screaming obscenities at people? Vagrant, and should be subject to any and all vagrancy laws. The courts won't charge any of these people though, because holding them to the laws on the books is "mean".

We have a ton of bums here. Some live in motorhomes/vans some have made little bum RV's they tow behind a bike, lots of them in tents. Most seem to just sleep wherever they nod off, often right in the middle of the sidewalk. The thing that always amazes me is how someone who has nothing can make such a gigantic fucking mess wherever they stop. Bridge I drive under on the way to work will look like the county dump about two hours after a bum sets up there, and that's how 99% of them seem to operate.
 
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dntsdad said:
Im talking like the last 3-4 weeks!
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Since the start of Covid we have not been able to clean up camps in my part of the state (Sacramento) unless they were in the way of a construction project and for that I believe permission from the governors office is needed.

Last week we were told abandoned camps may be cleaned up.

I drove through Portland on Thursday and it’s worse than Sacramento.
 
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