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have any of ya'll tried a "powersave" device?

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I havent found any negative comments on the net.. yet.. I've only been researching an hour..

any of ya'll know anything about them?

here is the main link article whatever that is out there

https://powersrex.com/products/pstm?...9uDG54hdFyjBpA

I keep seeing ads on facebook..

I understand I would need at least 3-6 for my house.. depending on what you read..

but since its an old house, it seems that much smarter to get..
 
I have some oil that is secreted from the rarest snakes of Zimbabwe that if you rub on your appliances and your left nipple is guaranteed to save you 46.3% on your electricity consumption.

Kindly let me know how many gallons you would appreciate me sending you.
 
I do like how they print “the result is the best” on the front label. Might use that idea for some products I’ve been working on. :laughing:
 
I havent found any negative comments on the net.. yet.. I've only been researching an hour..

any of ya'll know anything about them?

here is the main link article whatever that is out there

https://powersrex.com/products/pstm?...9uDG54hdFyjBpA

I keep seeing ads on facebook..

I understand I would need at least 3-6 for my house.. depending on what you read..

but since its an old house, it seems that much smarter to get..

What problem are you trying to solve?
 
Does anyone believe That works?
Nope....They are JUNK!
This "Sense" power monitor is pretty fucking cool. I have nailed down a bunch of stupid little power vampires with it. It's a little pricey; but is very sensitive and accurate.

https://sense.com/

Sense monitors your home’s electric use to help you save money, see what’s on or off, and even avoid disaster.
 
Nope....They are JUNK!
This "Sense" power monitor is pretty fucking cool. I have nailed down a bunch of stupid little power vampires with it. It's a little pricey; but is very sensitive and accurate.

https://sense.com/

Sense monitors your home’s electric use to help you save money, see what’s on or off, and even avoid disaster.


no thanks. i dont need a hacker or someone remotely controlling the power to my home.
 
You should get a couple of those $50 inflatable neck pillows too. The built in pump looks like a real time saver.
 
no thanks. i dont need a hacker or someone remotely controlling the power to my home.

How would a passive monitoring device allow someone to control the power to your home?
 
How would a passive monitoring device allow someone to control the power to your home?

my bad, i didnt realize you dont have to use it with the smart home stuff. this is what i came across.

click on technology and intergrations on the sense site. i cant paste anything for some reason.
 
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I havent found any negative comments on the net.. yet.. I've only been researching an hour..

any of ya'll know anything about them?

here is the main link article whatever that is out there

https://powersrex.com/products/pstm?...9uDG54hdFyjBpA

I keep seeing ads on facebook..

I understand I would need at least 3-6 for my house.. depending on what you read..

but since its an old house, it seems that much smarter to get..

Better buy it before the oil company murders the inventor and hides it with the 100mpg carburetor
 
well the one he worked and tested on was trash.. but that doesnt mean all versions are paper weights??
yes it does, because you can't alter the lws of physics. watts is watts. no device that you plug in is going to change that. in fact, that device uses wattage.

my bad, i didnt realize you dont have to use it with the smart home stuff. this is what i came across.

click on technology and intergrations on the sense site. i cant paste anything for some reason.

the sense box is just a real fancy amp shunt.
 
Arty -

Scientifically speaking, that gadget is pure bullshit.
That fancy Chinese night light won't save any energy or money.


Increasing efficiency (e.g., LED lights replacing incandescent) or turning off / unplugging shit you don't need powered up will lower your electrical usage.
 
Does anyone believe That works?

I had a woman explain to me that the wires had been cut to her light post "leaking electricity into the ground" causing her bill to go up.

I'm not making this up.
 
well the one he worked and tested on was trash.. but that doesnt mean all versions are paper weights??

It's not about the individual device, it's about the principle of operation.

Electrical Power Types
"Real" Power measured in Watts. Results in "work" being done - a wire heats, a motor turns, a filament lights up, etc
"Reactive" Power measured in VARs (Volt-Amperes Reactive). Also called "Imaginary" power is a result of voltage and current out of phase in AC systems.
"Complex" Power measured in VAs, simply stated, is the above combined. (some math terms would make this statement more true, but not important here)

In power systems, it is usually desired to have no reactive power, only real power. That simply means that your voltage and current are in phase. Capacitors and inductors (motors) will draw the phases off. We call this power factor (PF). By improving your PF (PF correction), you can actually reduce the amount of current in a circuit, without affecting the work done. This can result in less Real power being dissipated in resistive components.

The Chinesium device in question is really doing power factor correction - but it's mostly useless in this application. Two things:

1) Industrial customers are billed for bad PF. Depending on how far off they are (huge motors, etc), they will need to add power factor correction (capacitance) to their systems. It's good practice anyway, because you can reduce the current, thus reducing heat in resistive loads, making shit last longer in general.

Residential customers are not billed for bad PF, mostly since the size of the inductive loads are relatively small, thus having pretty good PF anyway. The smart thing to do would be to add a capacitor into an inductive circuit on any given appliance, so it can be matched. In fact, it's such a good idea, I think most appliances have these anyway. A/C units, refrigerator motors, etc.

2) The capacitors in question are not matched in value to the system they are correcting, and it's operating all the time, not just when the inductive load is running.

As a small note, the LED and circuitry in the device are also always on, thus drawing Real power that you are being billed for. To be fair, it's not much, so you likely wouldn't notice in your electric bill.

Bottom line: the principle is sound, but the execution would have to be matched to your electric loads. It is a valid solution to a very real problem; just not a problem you likely have.
 
:facepalm: i wish i didnt click the link, i feel like a just got added to the spam caller list
 
Nope....They are JUNK!
This "Sense" power monitor is pretty fucking cool. I have nailed down a bunch of stupid little power vampires with it. It's a little pricey; but is very sensitive and accurate.

https://sense.com/

Sense monitors your home’s electric use to help you save money, see what’s on or off, and even avoid disaster.

Kind of crazy that we have so much electrical shit that you need another electrical geegaw to help you keep track of it.

I guess I wonder what it did for you? I mean was your oven on when you didn't know it?
 
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