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Roc Doc said:
My HS was open campus and even with 2000 kids, you pretty much recognized everyone, and I don't remember outside folks cruising through campus. There were a couple Wooderson types that would cruise in front of the school or maybe come into the parking lot if they saw someone they wanted to talk to, (pre cell phones of course), but if they made a habit of it, or stayed too long then a Dean would tell them to shove off. The Principals office was closest to the parking lot, and there was a separate parking lot for visitors, so if they were checking their kid out because he got sick or whatnot, they'd only be in that office with no need to be anywhere else on campus. Seemed to work fine.
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My high school became a closed campus the year before I got there. Two years before I got there they tore all the lockers out because it was found one kid was keeping his shotgun in it so he could go shooting after school. I believe they reprimanded him and told him to keep it in his car. We had a bunch of "campus security" staff who were security guards with radios, and I think two sheriff's on campus during school hours.
 
Roc Doc said:
My HS was open campus and even with 2000 kids, you pretty much recognized everyone, and I don't remember outside folks cruising through campus. There were a couple Wooderson types that would cruise in front of the school or maybe come into the parking lot if they saw someone they wanted to talk to, (pre cell phones of course), but if they made a habit of it, or stayed too long then a Dean would tell them to shove off. The Principals office was closest to the parking lot, and there was a separate parking lot for visitors, so if they were checking their kid out because he got sick or whatnot, they'd only be in that office with no need to be anywhere else on campus. Seemed to work fine.
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Our high-school campus did not have a fence around it until 07. There was not any problems that I can recall.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
Do you think that will stop a determined crazy? Just because this one didn’t want to die many of the recents, lgbtwxyz, seem to go for body count.
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IMO you aren't prepping for a armed invasion of marauders... From the first shot the timer has started. You only need to last until the reinforcements arrive be it SRO or LEO or armed coach/teacher.

In regards to my kids do I just tell them to hope for the best?
Not likely, I didn't raise quitters and they both know what to do in the event their life is on the line. If they could be armed they would be :usa:
 
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Roc Doc said:
My HS was open campus and even with 2000 kids, you pretty much recognized everyone, and I don't remember outside folks cruising through campus. There were a couple Wooderson types that would cruise in front of the school or maybe come into the parking lot if they saw someone they wanted to talk to, (pre cell phones of course), but if they made a habit of it, or stayed too long then a Dean would tell them to shove off. The Principals office was closest to the parking lot, and there was a separate parking lot for visitors, so if they were checking their kid out because he got sick or whatnot, they'd only be in that office with no need to be anywhere else on campus. Seemed to work fine.
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All the norms worked fine because historically the person intending to do harm wanted to survive and didn't want the consequences.

Now that it's better to be a martyr for the cause the normal rules don't have much effect. There is nothing to prevent a teacher from performing their own mass shooting...
Fertilizer truck parked next to the stadium?

There are a lot of opportunities.
 
DMG said:
Yes. If gang members shoot it out a block away from school on Saturday night, it’s listed as a school shooting.
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or a suicide in the parking lot on a sunday night,

or a domestics thing between a teacher and spouse where a killing happens in the workplace.
 
Sandy Johnson said:
Do not most schools have an on-site officer who is armed? Way back in the late 90s my small middle school had one, and at my large high school we had several. Neither school was in a bad neighborhood or anything like that. I was under the impression most schools had on duty LEOs there. My son's elementary school has one.
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After the 2020 "mostly peaceful" rioting, arson, and looting, many schools lost their SROs amid the "defund the poh-leese" movement. Kamala Harris referred to it as "demilitarizing our schools" and getting cops off campuses (not to solve anything, just to gain favor w/ the current popular "thinking").

There are schools that want their SROs back but can't have them due to friction from woke district admin. or city councils that are still in the mindset that Harris espoused at least that one time (but absolutely will not again if it turns out the majority of public sentiment is in favor of returning SROs to schools).

Not picking on Harris there, I just used that baseless political weather vane to illustrate a buzzphrase used to justify leaving the kids less protected (while catering to the woke / ANTIFA / BLM / soy-pronoun crowd).
 
CarterKraft said:
All the norms worked fine because historically the person intending to do harm wanted to survive and didn't want the consequences.

Now that it's better to be a martyr for the cause the normal rules don't have much effect. There is nothing to prevent a teacher from performing their own mass shooting...
Fertilizer truck parked next to the stadium?

There are a lot of opportunities.
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I've been saying that since the first WTC bombing. The USA is full of soft targets, it doesn't have to be the WTC for terrorists to succeed, shopping malls, sporting events, office buildings and of course schools and churches.
 
ExWrench said:
After the 2020 "mostly peaceful" rioting, arson, and looting, many schools lost their SROs amid the "defund the poh-leese" movement. Kamala Harris referred to it as "demilitarizing our schools" and getting cops off campuses (not to solve anything, just to gain favor w/ the current popular "thinking").

There are schools that want their SROs back but can't have them due to friction from woke district admin. or city councils that are still in the mindset that Harris espoused at least that one time (but absolutely will not again if it turns out the majority of public sentiment is in favor of returning SROs to schools).

Not picking on Harris there, I just used that baseless political weather vane to illustrate a buzzphrase used to justify leaving the kids less protected (while catering to the woke / ANTIFA / BLM / soy-pronoun crowd).
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Didn't know about that. Insane.
 
My wild opinion for a while has been if we aren't at war we should have a decent population of SROs in fatigues looking for something to protect.
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Thumping said:
This is not a gun/weapon or security issue....in my opinion. It is however a society issue. This has never been a problem until recent history. So, what changed? We answer that and we may get to the root cause.
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For shizzle. I can think of a couple kids from highschool that would definitely be a school shooter today. One was way quiet, D&D nerd that always drew crazy art depicting death and mayhem. We got a long well because I recognized the crazy and kept on his good side. :laughing:

The other was from a shit home. Always smelled like piss, fucked up teeth and wore the same outfit from the thrift shops and yard sales a week at a time. He threatened to kill some asshole kids family when they were fucking with him and he went away.

I was absolutely no angel and I fucked with people incessantly but I wasn't cruel, it was typically someone that could handle it. Like Gavin the kid that threatened someone's family I could understand his shitty place in life so I didn't try to make it worse. The kunt volleyball/softball jock that thought her shit didn't stink and made my life hell in middle school, well that's a different story altogether. :smokin:


Kids these days have too much exposure to shit they don't need to have. The internet is a great place and also the most evil place imaginable depending on where you're looking and kids just don't know the difference.
 
DWT said:
The other was from a shit home. Always smelled like piss, fucked up teeth and wore the same outfit from the thrift shops and yard sales a week at a time. He threatened to kill some asshole kids family when they were fucking with him and he went away.
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This made me think about this interview with a guy that came close to shooting up a school. The things some kids get put through in life. It makes me grateful for the people who raised me, flawed as they were.





I think these shooters are made by their environment, their families, their schools, their federal handlers. The intense, violent, neverending, and demoralizing psyop and advertisement we call a society. They are driven or allowed to drive themselves to suicide and the most effective way they can think of to express and share their rage is to take others with them. But, I've written similar in dozens of threads and comment sections all around the internet and will probably continue to do so for the rest of my life.
 
Bunch of privileged whites up in here with their safe neighborhoods and open schools :flipoff2:

My high school was fenced, had a security guard at every entrance, and 2 full time cops. And I still knew plenty of guys who had a gun in their backpack every day.


My sons’ school was fenced, but had openings that can’t be closed because it is also considered a neighborhood park.
 
M92PV4U said:
We did that at the high school.
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The second floor of the high school was especially fun for BMX speedway :laughing:. Trying to make a pass on a straight got spicy a few times with guys catching door knobs or body sliding railings. Bottom floor fun was trying to pull the square metal trash cans in front of the guy behind you :grinpimp:. Schools also always have lots of multi level objects to bunny hop up and jump off of.
 
MigGunslinger said:
This made me think about this interview with a guy that came close to shooting up a school. The things some kids get put through in life. It makes me grateful for the people who raised me, flawed as they were.





I think these shooters are made by their environment, their families, their schools, their federal handlers. The intense, violent, neverending, and demoralizing psyop and advertisement we call a society. They are driven or allowed to drive themselves to suicide and the most effective way they can think of to express and share their rage is to take others with them. But, I've written similar in dozens of threads and comment sections all around the internet and will probably continue to do so for the rest of my life.
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I don't think you're wrong. I don't know what Gavin's home life was like but I bet he got his ass beat on a good day.

I come from a decent family so I wasn't planning to kill anyone but I did figure out how to blow the old highschool up and came up with a plan of I ever was so inclined. That's the difference, I had the thoughts and knowledge but no reason to carry them out. :laughing:
 
I don't understand how "hallways" can be outdoors.
that just makes no sense at all

though sandy's mention of someone keeping their hunting shotgun in the locker rather than their truck makes a lot more sense if the lockers are outdoors
actually downright logical since it is less likely to be stolen in a locker than a car
 
DWT said:
I don't think you're wrong. I don't know what Gavin's home life was like but I bet he got his ass beat on a good day.

I come from a decent family so I wasn't planning to kill anyone but I did figure out how to blow the old highschool up and came up with a plan of I ever was so inclined. That's the difference, I had the thoughts and knowledge but no reason to carry them out. :laughing:
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We had kids doing that to be mischievous vs violent. We had one kid pipe bomb the rest room during school and they found a second in his locker. He didn't want to kill people. We had another that super glued every lock at the school. Both got me a few hours out of class so I didn't mind.
 
[486] said:
I don't understand how "hallways" can be outdoors.
that just makes no sense at all

though sandy's mention of someone keeping their hunting shotgun in the locker rather than their truck makes a lot more sense if the lockers are outdoors
actually downright logical since it is less likely to be stolen in a locker than a car
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The world is full of fucked up nomenclature, why do you drive in a parkway and park in a driveway, canine vagina is doggy pussy, etc.

OK I guess I should have said covered walkways for those pedantic types. :flipoff2:
 
[486] said:
I don't understand how "hallways" can be outdoors.
that just makes no sense at all

though sandy's mention of someone keeping their hunting shotgun in the locker rather than their truck makes a lot more sense if the lockers are outdoors
actually downright logical
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None of my schools actually had technical hallways. Well except the admin building. Just sidewalks around buildings with doors facing classrooms. You don't need indoor schools when the average temperature range is 50 to 80 deg and it only rains 10 times a year. :flipoff2:
 
[486] said:
I don't understand how "hallways" can be outdoors.
that just makes no sense at all

though sandy's mention of someone keeping their hunting shotgun in the locker rather than their truck makes a lot more sense if the lockers are outdoors
actually downright logical since it is less likely to be stolen in a locker than a car
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I hate to ruin the one thing that makes sense, but all of our lockers were indoors. My highschool was an indoor, weird, round, 3 story, spaceship-looking thing(looks like new stuff got added after I left):
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We had "portable" buildings like crazy at our highschool and middle school, a common stop gap when new schools were needed but either funding or time was not on the school districts side.

So a few times a day you had to go out of the school into the various "portable" for class.
 
CarterKraft said:
We had "portable" buildings like crazy at our highschool and middle school, a common stop gap when new schools were needed but either funding or time was not on the school districts side.

So a few times a day you had to go out of the school into the various "portable" for class.
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They put portables in when I was in school too. I had a few classes in middle school in them and about half my highschool classes were since they had them stashed everywhere. They couldn't get funding due to an ultra conservative population and a nasty bitch dyke vice principal that everyone hated. She was finally pushed out and now suddenly bonds passed. :laughing:
 
Is it that kids today just don't know how to stand up for themselves? I never had thoughts of just hurting others in general....individuals maybe.

In 5th grade I had to deal with two high school freshmen. They were at the elementary school in the mornings waiting on the high school bus to pick them up. For 2 weeks they fucked with me every morning. Once I decided I'd had enough, I dealt with it.
I played basket ball so I was always carrying my gym bag. One evening at home I made me a nice hickory club and put it in my gym bag. The next morning I had my books under my left are, the gym bag in my left hand and my right had inside the bag holding the club.
As I walked by one knocked the books out from under my arm. I dropped the bag and came out over handed with the club splitting ones forehead open. The other took off running. Oh hell no! I caught up to him and he caught it to the back of the head.
I ended up with 2 weeks of in-school suspension but....they never fucked with me again.
 
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