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FDA and CDC Recommend pausing Johnson & Johnson COVID Vaccine

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Who woulda thunk it. 6 cases in 6 million doses is pretty small, something seems fishy.



Federal health agencies on Tuesday recommended pausing the use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine after a small number of people experienced "a rare and severe type of blood clot" after receiving the shot.

The Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a statement saying they were "recommending a pause in the use of this vaccine out of an abundance of caution."


Some 6.8 million people have received the single-shot vaccine in the United States. Of these, six have experienced the clot, the agencies said, adding: "Right now, these adverse events appear to be extremely rare."

The news was first reported by The New York Times.

In a statement, Johnson & Johnson said it was aware that blood clots had been reported with some Covid-19 vaccines, but that "no clear causal relationship has been established between these rare events" and its shot.

"We continue to work closely with experts and regulators to assess the data and support the open communication of this information to healthcare professionals and the public," it said.

The six people who experienced clots were all women between the ages of 18 and 48, who started getting symptoms between six to 13 days after vaccination, the FDA and CDC said. They had what's called a cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, or CVST, as well as low levels of blood platelets.

"Treatment of this specific type of blood clot is different from the treatment that might typically be administered," the statement said. Clots are usually treated with an anticoagulant called heparin — but that drug might be dangerous to use on CVST, it said.

The CDC will convene Wednesday a meeting of its Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, which provides guidance on vaccines.

It said that committee would "further review these cases and assess their potential significance," while the FDA would also investigate. "Until that process is complete, we are recommending this pause," the joint statement said. The FDA is set to hold a news conference at 10 a.m. ET Tuesday.

The call for a pause mirrors a situation that played out in Europe last month.

Some European governments paused the rollout of the Oxford University-AstraZeneca vaccine after a similarly tiny number of people suffered CVST blood clots. The AstraZeneca vaccine uses the same type of technology as the Johnson & Johnson shot.

Most European countries have since resumed administering the shot, but with a messy patchwork of different age restrictions and other guidelines. There is some evidence that as a result of this widely publicized fear, public trust in this vaccine is lower than others that are available.

The situation in Europe has divided experts, with some saying that governments could not ignore the possible link, and others saying that the pause may have increased infections and hesitancy, damage that far outweighs the dangers from these extremely rare side-effects.
 
6/6,800,000 = 0.0000009 probability of experiencing a blood clot side effect. And causation is not even proven. I wonder what the probability of the same blood clot condition is within the population at large?
 
i know a nurse in idaho and she was saying theyre seeing hella blood clot issues with the vaccines, j&j in particular
 
Got caught up in this today, me and the wife drive over an hour to get this specific vaccine and got turned away at the door. The wife got pissed and wouldn't take no for an answer so they ended up getting ahold of the VP in charge of pharmacy for Rite aid who told us over the phone it's actually a temporary recall.
 
Got stuck on Saturday morning... :homer:

Well, if the wife or I drop dead in a couple weeks, y'all can have my shit if you want it. I've got a couple nice guns and a pile of a Nissan Frontier that currently has both blown front coilovers, no parking brake and I think 2 working calipers.

:flipoff2:
 
My wife, against my judgment, (entirely different thread, not now) got the J&J shot about a week ago. She is currently on the couch in the fetal position sick as fuck. We got her tested and will see what comes of it tomorrow or Thursday. I'll have them look into the clots, this is the first I've heard of it, and while the stats are low, she is still my wife and sick.
 
My wife, against my judgment, (entirely different thread, not now) got the J&J shot about a week ago. She is currently on the couch in the fetal position sick as fuck. We got her tested and will see what comes of it tomorrow or Thursday. I'll have them look into the clots, this is the first I've heard of it, and while the stats are low, she is still my wife and sick.
Dang man, I feel for ya. Praying now she gets better bro.
 
People have horrible reactions to medicine every day, why are they suddenly concerned about it? (Mrna push)
 
I'm a RN and for the 3 medical entities I work for, they are very quick to diagnose somebody with covid, but when someone comes in with unexplained clotting, or other issues post receiving the vaccine, there has been a lot of people turning the blind eye to the cause. I have first hand knowledge of atleast 5 people who were being treated for DVT or PE, who dies and their COD was listed as anything but that
 
I'm a RN and for the 3 medical entities I work for, they are very quick to diagnose somebody with covid, but when someone comes in with unexplained clotting, or other issues post receiving the vaccine, there has been a lot of people turning the blind eye to the cause. I have first hand knowledge of atleast 5 people who were being treated for DVT or PE, who dies and their COD was listed as anything but that
J&J vaccine or all of them?
 
We've gotten to the point where any negative experience or condition, experienced within a couple of months after the inoculation, is automatically a "side effect"... Have a car wreck a week afterwards? Pause the vaccine. Get gonorrhea from a whore a month later? Pause the vaccine. Anything to cast doubt on anything and have the added bonus of filling in a news day.
 
Got caught up in this today, me and the wife drive over an hour to get this specific vaccine and got turned away at the door. The wife got pissed and wouldn't take no for an answer so they ended up getting ahold of the VP in charge of pharmacy for Rite aid who told us over the phone it's actually a temporary recall.
Say hi to Karen for us.
 
Meh, all people were women and prolly on birth control which increases clotting anyway I am not worried. We havent seen any increase in clotting at the hospital I work at.
 
I read something about a political thing where the FDA was specifically targeting the J&J vaccine, using a similar reason for the whole Europe vaccine pause, but for a more malicious reason regarding politics of the company. I kind of brushed it off with a scoff, but still makes you go 'hmm....'
 
I read something about a political thing where the FDA was specifically targeting the J&J vaccine, using a similar reason for the whole Europe vaccine pause, but for a more malicious reason regarding politics of the company. I kind of brushed it off with a scoff, but still makes you go 'hmm....'
How could you brush off such rock-solid evidence of a conspiracy?
 
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