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Ever got so mad that Donald Trump exists that you deleted a million acres?

arse_sidewards said:
If you don't like the state of the place stop going. It's public land. How the public treats it is not legitimate grounds for closure, making new rules, etc.

I don't approve of dumping and littering (except in specific circumstances not relevant here) generally but if people wanna do that stuff that's their problem.
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What in the sovereign citizen hell? :laughing:
 
arse_sidewards said:
It's the public's land. They can treat it as they see fit. If you don't like the lowest common denominator then build your own damn park.
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That's fucking idiotic sovereign citizen level bullshit. You ant treat it as you see for when your actions are against the law. Littering is against the law for good reason. Using your logic all the bums making tent cities all over the place on public land leaving hepatitis and god knows what else infected needles laying all around is perfectly fine.
 
Gregj50!!!!! said:
Dense!!!!!!!
Post is dense!!!!!!
Progressives have you perfectly aligned to carry their narrative for them!!!!

:homer:
:homer::homer::homer::homer:
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think about it this way, you're digging footers for your deck
you find a skull wearing a feather headdress
do you tell anyone and draw a bunch of senseless attention or do you put it into a pillowcase and later on dump it into the backfill

remember the commies will demand you bulldoze your house and donate the land, or you'll be firebombed by activists
 
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[486] said:
think about it this way, you're digging footers for your deck
you find a skull wearing a feather headdress
do you tell anyone and draw a bunch of senseless attention or do you put it into a pillowcase and later on dump it into the backfill

remember the commies will demand you bulldoze your house and donate the land, or you'll be firebombed by activists
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Well, you’ve clearly never watched Poltergeist.
 
arse_sidewards said:
It's the public's land. They can treat it as they see fit. If you don't like the lowest common denominator then build your own damn park.
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p much this
can't fight the tragedy of the commons, if there's gonna be laws protecting the worst of your society from the more civilized portions then you get your crowd of "brahmins" who refuse to live tidy lives


(define society as man forcing his will on man, like the collectivist scum do, since coercion's popular these days)
 
[486] said:
p much this
can't fight the tragedy of the commons, if there's gonna be laws protecting the worst of your society from the more civilized portions then you get your crowd of "brahmins" who refuse to live tidy lives


(define society as man forcing his will on man, like the collectivist scum do, since coercion's popular these days)
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The problem with this thinking is there are laws protecting the people littering and vandalizing from having their teeth knocked out for destroying said public land.
 
Tryloff said:
The problem with this thinking is there are laws protecting the people littering and vandalizing from having their teeth knocked out for destroying said public land.
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That's what I said in the post you quoted.
east_beast said:
So public land is just a lawless free for all?
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I can't help you.
Look at the reality of government control of "public property" over the last hundred years. Not the astroturfed "what could be"
the streetshitters are already here in sufficient number, and enjoying protection above and beyond those extended to you
 
[486] said:
people shooting trash are clearly the ones dumping trash
has the same smell as all the 'guns are to blame for murder' bullshit

Why reinforce the narrative used to strip rights?
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Appealing to folks to not be selfish peices of shit that help justify public land closure is not the same as justifying public land closure. You're being obtuse, or you're a shitbag like Arse who rationalizes your shitbaggery when it suits you and blames the laws while not blaming the shitbags. Seriously, provide a logical third option, please.
 
[486] said:
think about it this way, you're digging footers for your deck
you find a skull wearing a feather headdress
do you tell anyone and draw a bunch of senseless attention or do you put it into a pillowcase and later on dump it into the backfill

remember the commies will demand you bulldoze your house and donate the land, or you'll be firebombed by activists
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Yes…… I was pointing out how he takes it out on the natives, when it’s the progressive activists that our to blame….. and his carrying on with the racist antics to the injuns us just helping progressive activists cause!!!!!
 
ExWrench said:
Seriously, provide a logical third option, please.
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No, I'm a shitbag, you're a shitbag, we're all shitbags.

Self interest is the only thing that drives interaction, if you still believe in self sacrifice then you'll continue to be taken by those who use its image to manipulate you.
 
[486] said:
I can't help you.
Look at the reality of government control of "public property" over the last hundred years. Not the astroturfed "what could be"
the streetshitters are already here in sufficient number, and enjoying protection above and beyond those extended to you
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And your approach to the street shitters is the same as the Democrats' approach to all the illegal immigrants. Well, fuck it. They're already here, let's just make them legal! Problem solved! No more illegals!

You're working with the same idiotic logic.
 
east_beast said:
And your approach to the street shitters is the same as the Democrats' approach to all the illegal immigrants. Well, fuck it. They're already here, let's just make them legal! Problem solved! No more illegals!

You're working with the same idiotic logic.
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under universal franchise you'll see that state administered immigration is going to go the same direction as everything else state run
added bonus; they can prop up their ponzi schemes with imported foreigners

you can scream and cry about how it just isn't the right people in power this time but next time it will be different with next figurehead
or you can realize that the only answer to maintaining a cohesive and noncoercive society is going all in on private property

there is no free association so long as public roads exist, since they bring forced integration with them
 
east_beast said:
It's not "associating it". It's actually seeing it. People really do that shit. You're telling me you don't have local shooting spots in your national forests trashed with shot up shit? Because I've sure seen it everywhere I've been from Colorado to Wyoming to Utah to Montana to NC and SC.

It's okay to hold assholes accountable for being assholes and acknowledging that those assholes give the government assholes ammo to strip our rights. That doesn't make you any less pro freedom.
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Except that one time you were pushing for price controls, right?

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OHV Wildcat said:
Except that one time you were pushing for price controls, right?

:flipoff2:
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Except that literally never happened. Dumb people read into comments what they wanted to read. Saying their are likely to be retaliatory consequences to price gouging people on the wake of a disaster is not pushing for price controls. That's an idiotic reading. I can't help that.
 
east_beast said:
Except that literally never happened. Dumb people read into comments what they wanted to read. Saying their are likely to be retaliatory consequences to price gouging people on the wake of a disaster is not pushing for price controls. That's an idiotic reading. I can't help that.
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cheering on a specific class of looters is still cheering on looters
 
east_beast said:
I'm a pretty staunch free market guy but preying on people in a tragedy is just predatory and I'd be fine if the free market pulled a gun on them and relieved them of their goods in those situations.
That's the risk that comes along with your price gouging as far as I'm concerned.
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east_beast said:
But if they're price gouging generators I hope somebody burns that place to the fucking ground.
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you ain't difficult to get a read on
(and you should do some reading on free markets and how they cease to exist with the introduction of coercion)
 
[486] said:
you ain't difficult to get a read on
(and you should do some reading on free markets and how they cease to exist with the introduction of coercion)
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You're a sovereign citizen loon, you may have just not realized it yet. Everything you try to argue is sovereign citizen logic bullshit.

You should do some reading on fuck around and find out. I never said price gougers should be cracked down on from the government. I said that if you're coming to take advantage of desperate people in a desperate situation after a tragedy then you're playing a dangerous game and if you choose to play that game and lose I'll find that funny. Sorry, not sorry.
 
east_beast said:
You're a sovereign citizen loon, you may have just not realized it yet. Everything you try to argue is sovereign citizen logic bullshit.
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use whatever term you feel you need to, I'm a complete lost cause to your types

keep on grousing about grifters and gougers and using all that language specific to the corporate/state messaging system
makes the reality of your beliefs plain as day despite any contrarian claims
 
[486] said:
nah, I'm way further gone than that, a complete lost cause to your types
in order to be a sovcit you've got to acknowledge the existing state as legitimate in some way when it clearly is not

keep on grousing about grifters and gougers and using all that language specific to the corporate/state messaging system
makes the reality of your beliefs plain as day despite any contrarian claims
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:laughing:
 
I edited that a bit for clarity, maybe
maybe it's less intelligible

either way
 
You're not arguing against what I've said just preaching from your pulpit with your pre-planned sermon. :laughing:
 
east_beast said:
You're not arguing against what I've said just preaching from your pulpit with your pre-planned sermon. :laughing:
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What else is there to do?

your "I'd be fine if the free market pulled a gun on them" speaks for itself more directly than anything I could assemble
should I ridicule you further for having no grasp of what a free market is?
 
[486] said:
What else is there to do?

your "I'd be fine if the free market pulled a gun on them" speaks for itself more directly than anything I could assemble
should I ridicule you further for having no grasp of what a free market is?
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:laughing:

You're doing fine making an ass of yourself. Don't stop on my account.
 
east_beast said:
You're doing fine making an ass of yourself. Don't stop on my account.
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Good, don't take anything I say as gospel, I don't want that at all.
I want to be wrong, reality just doesn't oblige me as often as I'd like.
 
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