Ever got so mad that Donald Trump exists that you deleted a million acres?

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AdventureBLM Kicks Recreational Shooters Out of Bears Ears National MonumentPublished on October 8, 2024By David Bronson
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I’m pretty upset about this news. So why do I suddenly feel the urge to Tune In Tokyo?

Ever got so mad that Donald Trump exists that you deleted a million acres?
Me neither! But the Biden/Harris administration did. And no, I’m really not exaggerating about the reasoning behind this latest development; there were no studies done to justify closing down 1.36 million acres to recreational shooting. We learned this back in June, when the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) was working to dismantle shooting access at the Sonoran Desert National Monument. Now it’s happened again, with Bears Ears National Monument.

The Bureau of Land Management issued a final rule on its proposed management plan for Bears Ears National Monument in southern Utah, which includes an outright prohibition on recreational shooting of any kind for any purpose. Bears Ears, like all national monuments, are generally open to recreational shooting by the public, and for many in the western United States, public lands such as these provide the only opportunity for such activities.

“No surprise here, BLM told everyone many months ago that the agency’s preferred alternative was to ban recreational shooting altogether,” said Dr. Todd Adkins, Senior Vice President at the Sportsmen’s Alliance. “The notice and comment process proved meaningless, so we must turn to the courts to keep public land truly public.”


The Sportsmen’s Alliance is pulling together a coalition of organizations and individuals to challenge the BLM rule in federal court. The National Shooting Sports Foundation and Safari Club International have already come out in vociferous opposition to this latest move from BLM. Many organizations fight to protect America’s outdoor enthusiasts, including recreational shooters, and the Sportsmen’s Alliance is actively engaged with many of these groups to find the right pathway forward.

“There are federal statutes that require BLM to have considered a different approach than an outright ban,” said Michael Jean, Litigation Counsel for the Sportsmen’s Alliance. “Whether by oversight or with clear intent, we cannot stand by as our members and supporters are thrown off public land in violation of existing law, and we won’t.”

 

[east_beast]

One of the things people need to stop doing is giving them ammo to do shit like this. Everyone knows spots local to them that a lot of folks shoot at in national forests and they are usually completely junked up shit holes. Empty brass everywhere, shot up old washing machines, broken glass everywhere. Stop doing that shit.

 

[PAE]

Its probably something to do with the UN's Agenda 21/30 aka "wildlands project" search that term in Google images and you will see what I'm talking about~

 

[[486]]

One of the things people need to stop doing is giving them ammo to do shit like this. Everyone knows spots local to them that a lot of folks shoot at in national forests and they are usually completely junked up shit holes. Empty brass everywhere, shot up old washing machines, broken glass everywhere. Stop doing that shit.

"it's your own fault that you're being persecuted, just vote harder and keep paying the wages of those who persecute you"

 

[Byro]

We must protect the vast desert wastelands that have no natural resources at all costs!!



I’m going to dump some used oil into a waterway just to offset this hippie land conservation bullshit.

 

[JR4X]

This is where I live and the bears ears thing has been a hot button for years. I want to be offended but here’s the problem. We are literally surrounded by multiple thousand year old native Americans writings and wall art. Dumb kunts go shoot at the rock blowing the stone away that has all this cool old shit on it. I took these pictures just a couple weeks ago, these aren’t inside bears ears but only an hour and a half away.

People drag trash out there to shoot at. Blow trash everywhere and leave it all including their shells. You get one politician or vocal lib that has to walk past a disgusting eye sore to go see these amazing time capsules and it’s a pretty easy leap for them to make “ban shooting”

 

[KarlVP]

One of the things people need to stop doing is giving them ammo to do shit like this. Everyone knows spots local to them that a lot of folks shoot at in national forests and they are usually completely junked up shit holes. Empty brass everywhere, shot up old washing machines, broken glass everywhere. Stop doing that shit.

Yup. When we go shoot we bring biodegradable balloons and paper targets. We always bring a trash bag and leave with more than we brought. It isn't hard to keep your local shooting pit clean.

 

[AKnate]

We must protect the vast desert wastelands that have no natural resources at all costs!!



I’m going to dump some used oil into a waterway just to offset this hippie land conservation bullshit.

Just the same as here.

Oil drilling will ruin the pristine land.

Oil drill pad is barely a 10 acre spec on hundreds of thousands of acres of untouched wasteland

 

[Clb]

One of the things people need to stop doing is giving them ammo to do shit like this. Everyone knows spots local to them that a lot of folks shoot at in national forests and they are usually completely junked up shit holes. Empty brass everywhere, shot up old washing machines, broken glass everywhere. Stop doing that shit.

This and vote RED...

 

[east_beast]

"it's your own fault that you're being persecuted, just vote harder and keep paying the wages of those who persecute you"

Try reading because that's not at all what I said.

 

[[486]]

Try reading because that's not at all what I said.

garbage dumps are a natural place to shoot, like rock quarries and ravines and...


associating dumping trash with shooting is you doing their work for them

 

[east_beast]

This is where I live and the bears ears thing has been a hot button for years. I want to be offended but here’s the problem. We are literally surrounded by multiple thousand year old native Americans writings and wall art. Dumb kunts go shoot at the rock blowing the stone away that has all this cool old shit on it. I took these pictures just a couple weeks ago, these aren’t inside bears ears but only an hour and a half away.

People drag trash out there to shoot at. Blow trash everywhere and leave it all including their shells. You get one politician or vocal lib that has to walk past a disgusting eye sore to go see these amazing time capsules and it’s a pretty easy leap for them to make “ban shooting”

I LOVE that type of shit.

The old saying "with great freedom comes great responsibility" almost always holds true. Fuck them for wanting to try to take away people's rights. But also fuck the people who trash our shit and those same people are the ones who give ammo to the .gov fuck sticks who want to take away our rights. They'll use pictures of those trashed shit holes to spread around to the greenies in the cities and bang, now they have the popular public support to do it.

 

[east_beast]

garbage dumps are a natural place to shoot, like rock quarries and ravines and...


associating dumping trash with shooting is you doing their work for them

It's not "associating it". It's actually seeing it. People really do that shit. You're telling me you don't have local shooting spots in your national forests trashed with shot up shit? Because I've sure seen it everywhere I've been from Colorado to Wyoming to Utah to Montana to NC and SC.

It's okay to hold assholes accountable for being assholes and acknowledging that those assholes give the government assholes ammo to strip our rights. That doesn't make you any less pro freedom.

 

[cervelorod]

We're just not the correct "public" that is supposed to use public lands. They want these Tesla driving, enjoy nature 3 weekends a year, people. Just drove by a spot that was a natural viewpoint, and it looks as though a NPS person lost their shit about it and brought huge rocks to block it. The terrain made it so it couldnt have grown any bigger but because the troglodytes did it it had to be bad, and thus stopped.

 

[Landslide]

There’s lots of shooting ranges around here but also in rural areas people shoot at trash dump type areas too. I’ve never messed around those places as there’s usually some kind of trouble waiting with strangers. I’ve encountered enough of that in my life.

Shooting ranges are nice but they are a controlled environment and some folks don’t care for that. I have the advantage of a private shooting range which I could set up targets at 1,000 yards if desired but I don’t. We do 300 max permanent targets.

Public lands like in OPs post are exactly that, public lands. Fuck the government acting like it’s there’s to control it like they do. But that being said, we the people are the caretakers of these lands. Unfortunately we have a large population that don’t give a fuck about and will shit on it until it is taken away from us. These same idiots are the same ones who’ll shit on your property as well as they have no respect for anything.

 

[[486]]

We're just not the correct "public" that is supposed to use public lands. They want these Tesla driving, enjoy nature 3 weekends a year, people. Just drove by a spot that was a natural viewpoint, and it looks as though a NPS person lost their shit about it and brought huge rocks to block it. The terrain made it so it couldnt have grown any bigger but because the troglodytes did it it had to be bad, and thus stopped.

"where people can stop, trash will be dumped, therefore we must keep people moving along"

 

[CarterKraft]

We're just not the correct "public" that is supposed to use public lands. They want these Tesla driving, enjoy nature 3 weekends a year, people. Just drove by a spot that was a natural viewpoint, and it looks as though a NPS person lost their shit about it and brought huge rocks to block it. The terrain made it so it couldnt have grown any bigger but because the troglodytes did it it had to be bad, and thus stopped.

True story...

I always ask if you block areas of the US off to access them who is it for (NFS) to enjoy?
Like this is now a sacred place for chipmunks or marmots to celebrate their life's?

 

[east_beast]

True story...

I always ask if you block areas of the US off to access them who is it for (NFS) to enjoy?
Like this is now a sacred place for chipmunks or marmots to celebrate their life's?

It's why I used to always warn the mountain bikers from teaming up with the hikers to try to get motorized traffic banned. Don't get it twisted. The hikers don't want you on the trails either and they'll come after you as soon as they get rid of the motorized traffic.

 

[dntsdad]

What's the connection to hating Trump. I is dum I guess. Didn't see it.

 

[billybob_81067]

I don't know what to think about any of this. I hate people and I hate the federal government. I don't think the federal government or states should own any land. It should all be privately owned by actual people, not billionaire conglomerations, government entities, or China. I also think you should be able to kill on sight anyone you see dumping trash on your or your neighbor's property... I see both sides and they're both wrong.

 

[CarterKraft]

What's the connection to hating Trump. I is dum I guess. Didn't see it.

Guns and recreational shooter = Republican Trump supporter every where but California

 

[Yota Up]

I'm the only one that brings a tarp with me to make it easy to just wrap it all up at the end of the day?
Printers, tvs, computers, all that shit just gets wrapped like a present and easily taken home for trash day.

 

[Grnjp92]

I shoot on my own property, so no, I dont shoot at garbage

 

[east_beast]

I shoot on my own property, so no, I dont shoot at garbage

I mean, I'm from southern Appalachia. I don't deny that I have some pretty white trash tendencies.

But shooting up defunct appliances for shits and giggles is too white trash for me.

 

[KarlVP]

I'm the only one that brings a tarp with me to make it easy to just wrap it all up at the end of the day?
Printers, tvs, computers, all that shit just gets wrapped like a present and easily taken home for trash day.

Years ago I had a CRT monitor I was trying to get rid of. Put it in the trash can. Come home from work monitor is on the ground trash can is empty.

Next week I taped a $20 on top of the can and put the monitor back inside. Came home $20 is gone, trash has been taken away, monitor is on the ground.

Took it out to the pit put it on a tarp, a couple rounds of buck shot, scraped it into a trash bag and put it back in the can.

Profit.

Mostly though I use a tarp because I reload and it makes it way easier to take home your brass.

 

[FJC11]

"it's your own fault that you're being persecuted, just vote harder and keep paying the wages of those who persecute you"

Is this a serious response? I know I can be dense at times, but this escapes me unless it's just sarcasm and than

It's like the vote harder retard response it's dumb and I don't get it.

Back to college ball and , carry on.

 

[[486]]

Is this a serious response? I know I can be dense at times, but this escapes me unless it's just sarcasm and than

It's like the vote harder retard response it's dumb and I don't get it.

Back to college ball and , carry on.

don't worry about it, just consume product then get excited for next product

 

[ExWrench]

"it's your own fault that you're being persecuted, just vote harder and keep paying the wages of those who persecute you"

I took what he typed more as, "Don't be a piece of shit, so they don't have that to hold against us".

Don't accuse rationalization of .gov overreach just to rationalize folks being pieces of shit.

Leave every area you visit as good as you found it. Or better. Or you suck. Period.

 

[FJC11]

don't worry about it, just consume product then get excited for next product

Only product I'm consuming at the moment is college football and an adult beverage or two.

 

[[486]]

I took what he typed more as, "Don't be a piece of shit, so they don't have that to hold against us".

Don't accuse rationalization of .gov overreach just to rationalize folks being pieces of shit.

Leave every area you visit as good as you found it. Or better. Or you suck. Period.

I can only read it as "you scum being accused of a crime, why are you guilty of that crime, innocents are not accused and as an aside all crimes are bad because they're crimes"