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EPSON printers rant

77fixer

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TLDR: EPSON printers now won't allow the use of any third party ink. Similar, apparently, to what Tesla and John Deere do to prevent anyone from working on their products, which you now own, because you bought it.

We started a business a few years ago, embroidery and screenprinting. As we grow our skills and offerings, we seem to upgrade constantly.
First you need to understand a little of the process we use.
There is a photosensitive emulsion which we apply to our screens. This emulsion dries and when exposed to UV light, becomes resistant to washing out.
We print a positive of the image we want to print on a coated, clear, plastic film. The printer ink has to be black enough to block the UV, so the image area doesn't expose and can later be washed out. That is where the screen printing ink transfer happens during the process of printing on the shirt, hoodie, whatever.

There is software which allows for quick separations of colors in a design. The software company only supports certain printers, most of which are EPSON, which have been used for years.
Epson has discontinued many of these printers and replaced them with one model. It is the Epson Expression Photo HD XP-15000 Wireless Color Wide-format Printer. We purchased one of these printers and started using it. The films it print are OK, but there is an ink alternative that uses black, uv blocking ink in every cartridge. This provides a darker image, using less ink. These cartridges are only available from third party vendors.
As I used up the original black ink (while using none of the other colors), I ordered an All Black Ink system, of which I only found one company, out of the few who offer these ink sets, which had a set for this printer. As soon as I installed it, I found out that Epson has denied owners of their products from using these inks. Our 4 other Epson printers have allowed the use of various ink brands/types by simply acknowledging that it is not genuine Epson ink.
I emailed Epson and received a simple canned response, basically, Tough Shit, use only our ink.

I am now going to return this piece of shit Epson Expression Photo HD XP-15000 Wireless Color Wide-format Printer and try the new offering from Canon, the Canon Pixma Pro-100 Wireless Color Professional Inkjet Printer, which is supported by the software company and for which I can get all black ink. Unfortunately, while talking to another business owner, the Canon is experiencing shipping delays and he is waiting for his third printer, because the previous two have been defective, he waited 8 weeks for his first to arrive.

Yet another issue with allowing all of our stuff to be made in China, nothing is in stock any more.
 
Are you not able to cut out the little metal thing that the printer reads from a legit cartridge and glue it onto the sensor on the printer?

I have seen that method used in the past.
 
Are you not able to cut out the little metal thing that the printer reads from a legit cartridge and glue it onto the sensor on the printer?

I have seen that method used in the past.

Yep - someone is probably already working on hacking that system.

If it's a microprinted label, it should be transferable to the bootleg cartridge.
If it's an RFID tag, you might even be able to glue it to or near the reader head.

Fuck Epson for doing it, but if Canon's not available, research the hack - I'd bet someone has already done it.
 
I don't buy them anymore but this used to work. Or if it doesn't finding the chip on the cartridge did the trick.
  1. Start by installing the cloned ink cartridge, and automatically the printer will issue a prompt “an ink cartridge cannot be recognized”.
  2. Proceed to “Start”, then “Control Panel” on the computer and double click on the “printer”.
  3. Look for the icon on the “Epson Printer” and right press and select “Printer Preferences”, regularly found at bottom of the dialog box.
  4. Click on the tab showing “Speed and Progress” and look at the Epson Printer monitor box.
  5. Turn off the ink monitor by checking off the “Disable Epson Status Monitor” found within a box.
  6. And lastly, click “Save” and close the window. That’s about it the printer and the cloned ink cartridges can now start printing operation.
 
Matt, I don't have an Epson printer but clearly you know how to communicate well. The directions you gave exceed 99% of those that are expressed on the web or found on the garbage sold today. Look at any Youtube video on how to change a flat tire or change a lightbulb. :goofball:
 
I had an epson 4800 that held like $1800 worth of ink AND it had a chipped dump tray. You had to use an Epson tray and you had to have at least 3 to swap them out. I never used it and I'm pretty sure I tossed the whole thing in the dump.
 
Thanks for the help. Unfortunately Matts' instructions didn't help. Probably because it is a brand new printer and it has been programmed this way and no way to change anything or go back. Hell, even if Epson made an all black ink set, I would buy it. I'd be pissed that I had to. I might try swapping the chips. I will have to have the resetter since the original black is empty anyways.
 
I have a fix for yea! Our Epson was was the same thing. Uninstall the firmware. Then only install the very first version. Don't update it. It'll use any ink from any place.
 
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