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Do New Ford Trucks Suck, or are My Expectations Too High?

Do new Ford trucks suck?


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I just saw an article about the bubble popping, these $80k+ vehicles aren't moving off the lots.

It's not just diesels. A fullsize suv with a few options hits $100k quick :homer:

100%...Note the model year in addition to the markdown.

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Ford dealer near me has a clean used 22 F450 XLT crew cab the price keeps dropping on. With 34k miles on it they are at 68k right now and down from $73k when I first saw it about a month ago.

A little over a year ago retards were jumping at overpriced used trucks like they were going out of style. There not even jumping on the reasonable priced ones now. :laughing:
 
Ford dealer near me has a clean used 22 F450 XLT crew cab the price keeps dropping on. With 34k miles on it they are at 68k right now and down from $73k when I first saw it about a month ago.

A little over a year ago retards were jumping at overpriced used trucks like they were going out of style. There not even jumping on the reasonable priced ones now. :laughing:
with 7+% interest stupid hurts a lot more

The wife wants a new car next month so I'll get a good feel for how the market is going.
Now that the jobs report is fucked the fed will drop rates .5% or better according to the pundits.
 
I've seen/heard 2 ads recently offering low interest rates. Not 100% the same as ford/gm/ram pickups, but good sign if looking for a loan. Vw was 0.9% and CAT was 0%
 
with 7+% interest stupid hurts a lot more

The wife wants a new car next month so I'll get a good feel for how the market is going.
Now that the jobs report is fucked the fed will drop rates .5% or better according to the pundits.

My wife mentioned wanting a new car too. I'm not even entertaining that thought right now though. She had her chance to get rid of the Jeep when I could have traded it in for stupid money and she wouldn't give it up, now that it's worth waaaay less in trade she's ready. :shaking:
 
I've seen/heard 2 ads recently offering low interest rates. Not 100% the same as ford/gm/ram pickups, but good sign if looking for a loan. Vw was 0.9% and CAT was 0%
The low rates are out there on new but usually fuck you out of any discounts, either or deal.

The used shit is were they gouge you
 
There is a left over 23 xlt packaged F250 locally that isn’t selling. I keep watching it, but they haven’t moved on the price too much.
 
My wife mentioned wanting a new car too. I'm not even entertaining that thought right now though. She had her chance to get rid of the Jeep when I could have traded it in for stupid money and she wouldn't give it up, now that it's worth waaaay less in trade she's ready. :shaking:

Catch 22 because the shit to replace it was way more expensive and is now cheaper.

It's all just a wierd game at this point :laughing:
 
I feel like that is still $50k too much for a Jeep.

No kidding. I can't believe anyone will buy newer fiat stuff without a Cummins.

My buddies ex wife had a 2016ish grand Cherokee. Had so many recalls, head exploded at like 20k miles, then transmission, then some recall where they told you to stop driving immediately, but offered no towing or loner car :homer: just a hot pile of shit.
 
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No kidding. I can't believe anyone will buy newer fiat stuff without a Cummins.

My buddies ex wife had a 2016ish grand Cherokee. Had so many recalls, head exploded at like 20k miles, then transmission, then some recall where they told you to stop driving immediately, but offered no towing or loner car :homer: just a hot pile of shit.
And really pointless, not like you are taking it wheeling.:stirthepot:
 
I'm late to this party, I had an 05 cummins/auto 2500 before my new Ford. Only put 60K in 18 years, but really no problems.
I had a programmer (only set on 2 out of 10, to respect the stock 48RE) and near the end, a dual stage water/meth injection.
It was Ok on power, but I did baby it, especially on the highway coming in/out of 4th/locked converter. That kind of limited me
on pulling hills "hard".

Problem was when loaded up, it developed some kind of resonance, right at 70-72 that was super annoying.
The more weight and/or more engine load you had/needed, the worse it got. No actual vibration really, so
wasn't sure where to start.

I got my 23 F250 CC LB 4WD PSHO without really reading up on current SD quality. I've had other new Ford's recently, so
I kind of knew quality was not going to be top notch. I paid $66K for an XLT in above config with HO diesel, bed liner,
mud flaps, and rear locker as only options. I don't DD my tow rig, so a 10 yr, 50 or 60Kish warrantee will suffice and if it
blows up, it blows up. After warrantee, might delete (if parts still available) or look for something else.
So far, I had a huge issue with stock tires and balancing and one front shock blown (under 3K miles)

All that said, I don't care. I will never give back the newfound power I have pulling "only" 10K. So nice when you have two 18 wheelers
riding side by side for miles and miles @ 56 MPH (a ton of highways in PA are only 2 lanes), and you get an opening, you can go like
you are driving a mid grade perf sedan. Yes, it is THAT good and I fucking LOVE it. :usa:
 
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