Do Biden and the dems make DC a state without constutional amendment?

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We know the dems want statehood for DC and puerto rico assuming that they will be safely democratic and add to their majority. The mayor of DC is already saying that they need to be a state so they can protect themselves. She wants it in the first 100 days. Do they try to do it the right way or some political trickery since they have a majority in the house and senate.
 
How many LE/National defense agencies are already in DC? Why do they need more?
 
Kyle said:
Doesn’t the constitution say something about the capitol NOT being a state to keep it from being a bias?

PR won’t be a state, too many advantages for them to remain a US territory.
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IIRC, it was originally carved out of MD for that very reason. It it wants to be a State then it should revert to being part of MD, if allowed.
 
Grnd93 said:
How many LE/National defense agencies are already in DC? Why do they need more?
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Fucking A. When I was there a few years ago, I've never seen so many police, not to mention all the plain clothes types that are there as well.
 
The OP's position was well done... "Do the Dems" not "Can the Dems."

I don't see COTUS being respected any more going forward than it was looking back. Shoot, Constitutionally, Congress is supposed to submit a budget... but they haven't done that in ~12 years?
 
Grnd93 said:
How many LE/National defense agencies are already in DC? Why do they need more?
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Because they have a high crime rate... Funny how they have every alphabet law enforcement agency there and crime is bad.
 
nahmus said:
We know the dems want statehood for DC and puerto rico assuming that they will be safely democratic and add to their majority. The mayor of DC is already saying that they need to be a state so they can protect themselves. She wants it in the first 100 days. Do they try to do it the right way or some political trickery since they have a majority in the house and senate.
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Why would they need an amendment ?


The pending DC statehood bill would reduce the current district’s borders to a much smaller district encompassing the national mall and surrounding federal buildings, satisfying the clause’s requirements. The bill then cedes the remaining area to a new state, Washington, Douglass Commonwealth, which would approve a state constitution and elect federal senators and a representative, delegates to the Electoral College, a governor, and state legislators.

How Could Washington, D.C. Become a State, and What Would Happen if it Did? (lifehacker.com)
 
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gunracer1 said:
the pa constitution says how votes are done. they changed up the process by passing the constitution. they have zero moral compass when it is something they want.
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You're still not showing a path. Just saying they're bad so they'll figure something out.
 
SanDiegoCJ said:
Why would they need an amendment ?


The pending DC statehood bill would reduce the current district’s borders to a much smaller district encompassing the national mall and surrounding federal buildings, satisfying the clause’s requirements. The bill then cedes the remaining area to a new state, Washington, Douglass Commonwealth, which would approve a state constitution and elect federal senators and a representative, delegates to the Electoral College, a governor, and state legislators.

How Could Washington, D.C. Become a State, and What Would Happen if it Did? (lifehacker.com)
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There is no compelling reason it should not revert back to MD rather than become another State.

"Its stolen LAND!" :laughing:
 
I had read this article and the details in it made it look like an amendment was needed, But depending on your interpretation there is some wiggle room for a party that has control of everything. Here are the relevant parts from a discussion about the topic. The biggest thing would be electoral votes. If they become a state now with 23 amendment in tact won't they start out with double the electoral votes?

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-washington-d-c-could-become-a-state-and-why-it-probably-wont

  • Roger Pilon:
    Well, when the District of Columbia was established 230 years ago by Congress, it was set up to be a unique entity, not to be part of any state.
  • Lisa Desjardins:
    Roger Pilon is a constitutional scholar at the Cato Institute. Two of his arguments?
    First, the Constitution defines the city as a federal district. Pilon argues that only a constitutional amendment, not Congress, can make it a state. Then there's the 23rd Amendment, which gives the District electoral votes for president. But that would conflict with the electoral votes a new state would get separately.
  • Roger Pilon:
    In other words, for president, that 23rd Amendment would have to be repealed. And you can't do that through mere statute. You have to have a constitutional amendment to repeal a constitutional amendment.
  • Lisa Desjardins:
    Holmes Norton concedes that amendment should be repealed, but says the city can become a state first, and that Congress can do it.
  • Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton:
    Now, it is true that the framers didn't quite know what to do with this capital city, and so it gave jurisdiction over to Congress. Well, the Congress is taking action now. It is taking action to make the District the 51st state.
  • Lisa Desjardins:
    Both acknowledge one towering obstacle to statehood: politics.
  • Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton:
    It's always partisan. And because the district is a largely Democratic city, you can expect Republicans and the president of the United States to be against it.
  • Roger Pilon:
    What we're talking about here is two new Democratic senators, and that is not something that the Republicans in the Senate want to see, since the Senate is so closely divided.
  • Lisa Desjardins:
    Which is why there is little hope the Republican-led Senate will pass the statehood bill this year and why the stakes for D.C. are high in November, when control of Congress, the White House, and the long-term chances for D.C. statehood, are on the ballot.
    For the "PBS NewsHour," I'm Lisa Desjardins.
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I think it is time to convert 49 small regions of Idaho, Montana and Wyoming to individual statehood as these regions exhibit a greater degree of conservatism as compared to the rest of the state they are within. That would bring the number of stars on the the flag up to a nice round 100.
 
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